i didn't see anyone post about this, but i just noticed "4G" on my iphone. has anyone else noticed this or am i just behind?
Quote from: dioscorides on March 08, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
i didn't see anyone post about this, but i just noticed "4G" on my iphone. has anyone else noticed this or am i just behind?
You got the software update to iOS 5.1 yesterday.
Quote from: swake on March 08, 2012, 01:01:43 PM
You got the software update to iOS 5.1 yesterday.
yes. i guess i didn't know that 4G with at&t was available in tulsa yet. i really hadn't been keeping up with it though.
Quote from: dioscorides on March 08, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
yes. i guess i didn't know that 4G with at&t was available in tulsa yet. i really hadn't been keeping up with it though.
Semantics. I've had it with my Atrix 4G, but it actually shows up as HSPA+
Quote from: Hoss on March 08, 2012, 01:34:39 PM
Semantics. I've had it with my Atrix 4G, but it actually shows up as HSPA+
Supposedly better use of bandwidth. at&t is freeing up older GSM frequencies for use as 4G, and letting 2G users know their time is almost up.
Quote from: patric on March 08, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
Supposedly better use of bandwidth. at&t is freeing up older GSM frequencies for use as 4G, and letting 2G users know their time is almost up.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/The-ATT-iPhone-4S-Magically-Becomes-4G-118745
Apple caved to AT&T. The code tells you 4G, but it ain't, really...
Quote from: Hoss on March 08, 2012, 05:48:12 PM
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/The-ATT-iPhone-4S-Magically-Becomes-4G-118745
Apple caved to AT&T. The code tells you 4G, but it ain't, really...
There's no real definition for 4G, it's kinda whatever you say it is.
Quote from: swake on March 08, 2012, 07:55:26 PM
There's no real definition for 4G, it's kinda whatever you say it is.
But AT&T 4G is significantly slower than Verizon 4G.
Quote from: Nik on March 08, 2012, 09:15:59 PM
But AT&T 4G is significantly slower than Verizon 4G.
Verizon 4G is LTE
AT&T 4G is HSPA+ and LTE
You can't compare 4G to 4G as the terms change by carrier. AT&T LTE and Verizon LTE will be speed comparable, once they both get rolled out.
What AT&T is trying to push is that their 3G is faster than verizon's 3G which is true.
At&t can bite me...throttling legacy unlimited plan users is crap! We DO NOT use more network, we use the SAME network, same amount of data BUT AT&T does not have a way to CHARGE US! Its ridiculousness! I signed up and was SOLD unlimited use, fast network and now AT&T is basically saying...whoa..if you use your unlimited plan for unlimited data we are going to slow you down even though we and you agreed to pay X amount for it and have been doing your part...sorry and F you kindly sir....now please pay your bill on time this month....
Quote from: zstyles on March 09, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
At&t can bite me...throttling legacy unlimited plan users is crap! We DO NOT use more network, we use the SAME network, same amount of data BUT AT&T does not have a way to CHARGE US! Its ridiculousness! I signed up and was SOLD unlimited use, fast network and now AT&T is basically saying...whoa..if you use your unlimited plan for unlimited data we are going to slow you down even though we and you agreed to pay X amount for it and have been doing your part...sorry and F you kindly sir....now please pay your bill on time this month....
You could always make your statement with your pocketbook...by leaving them.
That is so true...but I wont..they know that...hence why they are doing what they are doing....
Quote from: zstyles on March 09, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
That is so true...but I wont..they know that...hence why they are doing what they are doing....
Magical spell?
Brainwashing technology in that there cell phone?
Pretty much dont want to go thru the PITA or switching..so ill just grumble about it and be throttled....
Quote from: zstyles on March 09, 2012, 01:45:51 PM
Pretty much dont want to go thru the PITA or switching..so ill just grumble about it and be throttled....
Are you really one of the top 5% nationally of data use?
Well Apparently I was but I was never throttled but got warning texts every so often... NOW its if you use OVER 3GB a month your automatically slowed down...you can still use UNLIMITED BUT its slowed down so you can really do much of anything... Its funny because my data usage went up ALOT on my reports when I really didn't think I was using more data after they started the warnings.....so the "new" uproar" with legacy AT&T customers who signed up when AT&T first offered the IPHONE 1 with unlimited data at a higher rate (30.00 a month at the time) is that you are now essentially CAPPED at 3GB on an unlimited plan but you can use unlimited but its slowed down to almost 56k speeds..simply because AT&T cannot bill you like they can someone who signs up today and cap their usage than charge more...
FYI on the original post
It appears that Apple devices that connect to an LTE network (which everyone is okay with calling 4G) will show "LTE" on the top of the device so there is no confusion over whether you are on "real 4g" or "marketing 4g"
Quote from: sgrizzle on March 09, 2012, 02:27:20 PM
Are you really one of the top 5% nationally of data use?
There was a tale from the Civil War that it was OK for troops to appropriate bits of farmers fences to use as firewood as long as they only took the top rail.
Unfortunately, the definition of "top rail" was subjective, to the point where the bottom rail eventually became the top rail as enough troops passed by.
at&t can whittle away at what they claim to be the top 5% indefinitely, using the same logic.
The Whirled does some digging....
After much debate and disputed uses of the term, the International Telecommunications Union decreed in December 2010 that HSPA+ could be considered a 4G technology. AT&T didn't immediately adopt the term for its networks, but T-Mobile did. Yes, T-Mobile uses HSPA+ for its Tulsa 4G network.
The reason the ITU granted the technology 4G status is because HSPA+ has the capability for incredible speeds. The tech can be upgraded to a potential top download speed of 168 megabits per second.
Meanwhile LTE, the 4G technology gradually being rolled out by Verizon, U.S. Cellular, Sprint, T-Mobile and AT&T in other areas of the country, tops out at 150 mbps.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=52&articleid=20120325_52_E4_ULNShp707703
My new cell phone pops popcorn, works as a small hammer, and has a fish locator app.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 25, 2012, 07:53:44 PM
My new cell phone pops popcorn, works as a small hammer, and has a fish locator app.
Darn small phones. Where's a big
phone hammer when you need one?