Dogwhistle campaign rally.
2012: Rick Perry Ally Wants to Bar Muslims from Naturalization
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/08/2012-rick-perry-ally-wants-to-bar-muslims-from-naturalization/
I am sending him a contribution in hopes he gets the stupid people's nomination to be the GOP/Teabaggers candidate! What a hypocrite he is. Jesus would be rolling over in his grave if he had one....
You are the reason I don't read this forum at all.... wish there was an ignore button for you... you suck clown, big green donkey peckers... oh yes, I said it.
Quote from: TulsaMoon on August 07, 2011, 08:20:15 PM
You are the reason I don't read this forum at all.... wish there was an ignore button for you... you suck clown, big green donkey peckers... oh yes, I said it.
Yes, this hypocrite led a "prayer rally" in a shameless attempt to be President.
Standing on a stage surrounded by thousands of fellow Christians on Saturday morning, Gov. Rick Perry of Texas called on Jesus to bless and guide the nation's military and political leaders and "those who cannot see the light in the midst of all the darkness."
"Lord, you are the source of every good thing," Mr. Perry said, as he bowed his head, closed his eyes and leaned into a microphone at Reliant Stadium here. "You are our only hope, and we stand before you today in awe of your power and in gratitude for your blessings, and humility for our sins. Father, our heart breaks for America. We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government, and as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us, and for that we cry out for your forgiveness."
I find this far more offensive than your name calling or my posts. And if he announces, it won't be just me attacking his ethics. Ever hear of separation of church and state, TM? Or do you hate people too?
Grow up and take it from the other side.
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 07, 2011, 08:24:50 PM
Grow up and take it from the other side.
Just cause you take it from the other side doesn't mean we all have too... again.. you suck.. I will be happy to be kicked from this forum for calling you an a hole, you are, you suck, and this place was sooo much better without you... .... tag.
TulsaMoonie has no self control....he needs a button to ignore the clown. Looking back on your prior posts I will refrain from putting you in your rightful place...What a sad condition you must be in. ;D
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 07, 2011, 08:30:38 PM
TulsaMoonie has no self control....he needs a button to ignore the clown. Looking back on your prior posts I will refrain from putting you in your rightful place...What a sad condition you must be in. ;D
Your such a fish.... hook... line and.... your still an arse..... you so can't handle anyone calling you for what you are... you name call more then anyone on this forum and when someone, anyone throws it your way you curl up like the sissy girl you are. You my non friend are a joke and a half. go cry silly girl, go cry.
BTW.. I am not stopping... keep it coming.
Quote from: TulsaMoon on August 07, 2011, 08:37:23 PM
Your such a fish.... hook... line and.... your still an arse..... you so can't handle anyone calling you for what you are... you name call more then anyone on this forum and when someone, anyone throws it your way you curl up like the sissy girls you are. You my non friend are a joke and a half. go cry silly girl, go cry.
OMG, it's these kind that have our country held hostage with their uncanny ability to discuss things intelligently.
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 07, 2011, 08:40:34 PM
OMG, it's these kind that have our country held hostage with their uncanny ability to discuss things intelligently.
Wow.. so you can parade the party line of Hostage too... your soo cool.. omg. do you even have a thought of your own? Your such a fish...
This is fun BTW..
Quote from: TulsaMoon on August 07, 2011, 08:44:02 PM
Wow.. so you can parade the party line of Hostage too... your soo cool.. omg. do you even have a thought of your own? Your such a fish...
It's "YOU'RE" not your...why am I wasting my time trying to educate the masses?
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 07, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
It's "YOU'RE" not your...why am I wasting my time trying to educate the masses?
Oh my yes, you are correct. I am so sorry for the incorrect graaaaaaammmmer... Gee mom, I swear I will get an A on the next test... TOOL
Looking forward to this thread being deleted..
You're working pretty hard to make it happen.
I for one will go on record. The Clown is no worse than many other posters on this forum. He just isn't in the mainstream. He says with passion and humor what others are afraid to. I think Perry is a doofus by the way. And I can see nothing more appetizing than the Republican's bowing to Tea Party pressure to put him and Bachmann on their ticket together.
You might as well kiss me off too if he gets booted for anything he, or you, have said or done so far. Just relax and enjoy the banter. Its just a forum, not real life.
Quote from: AquaMan on August 07, 2011, 09:09:55 PM
You're working pretty hard to make it happen.
I for one will go on record. The Clown is no worse than many other posters on this forum. He just isn't in the mainstream. He says with passion and humor what others are afraid to. I think Perry is a doofus by the way. And I can see nothing more appetizing than the Republican's bowing to Tea Party pressure to put him and Bachmann on their ticket together.
You might as well kiss me off too if he gets booted for anything he, or you, have said or done so far. Just relax and enjoy the banter. Its just a forum, not real life.
Perry is a tool. Clown and others in this forum are the reason many don't post. I for one am sick of just reading and letting it go by. on BOTH sides are tools. Was fun to blow wind up Clowns arse this round.. G-man is next...
Clown Removal Tool
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Quote from: Teatownclown on August 07, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
It's "YOU'RE" not your...why am I wasting my time trying to educate the masses?
Being the grammar or typo police on this forum could be a full time job.
:)
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 07, 2011, 10:54:36 PM
Being the grammar or typo police on this forum could be a full time job.
:)
Nobody's taken my job!...oh, wait...wrong division.
Quote from: AquaMan on August 07, 2011, 09:09:55 PM
The Clown is no worse than many other posters on this forum.
Seriously waterboy? Sh!t, when even tempered RM is fed up with him that says something. And no, @ssclown is not funny. He isn't a critical thinker. He links to some of the worst type of crap out there. And show me the last time this douchebag has ever had anything to contribute of real substance.
Now there are a few other posters that catch grief from folks that share similar opinions to you. Sauerkraut and Quinton. Here's one thread exemplifying this so you can post a similar defense for those two posters.
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=10837.msg179279#msg179279
Quote from: guido911 on August 08, 2011, 01:57:33 AM
Seriously waterboy? Sh!t, when even tempered RM is fed up with him that says something. And no, @ssclown is not funny. He isn't a critical thinker. He links to some of the worst type of crap out there. And show me the last time this douchebag has ever had anything to contribute of real substance.
Now there are a few other posters that catch grief from folks that share similar opinions to you. Sauerkraut and Quinton. Here's one thread exemplifying this so you can post a similar defense for those two posters.
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=10837.msg179279#msg179279
You're grouping me with Sauer? Now that's harsh. :D
I think the Clown goes a bit extreme to try and counteract what he perceives as an imbalance in political dialogue on this forum. He wants people to think and defend. Observe and comment. I have gone on record before that unless someone is vile, profane and utterly lacking in discourse skills they should be allowed to post regardless of their out of the norm character. The only one I supported kicking out was the Friendly Bear who met those criteria.
Your political views are so far removed from mine that I can hardly understand them sometimes and I question whether they are even yours. Never met someone with such a collection of beliefs, but your life path, culture and demographic is also far removed from mine so I give you credit for making them work, raising a family, working a career and still having time to rag our butts around here. In fact, I wonder how people have so much time to post so much.
RM? He's like the bookie around here. Trying to balance the books and keep the place viable. You guys should welcome the contrast. It gives you plenty of opportunities to flex your political muscles. Now where's my Xanax....
Quote from: AquaMan on August 08, 2011, 07:47:08 AM
RM? He's like the bookie around here.
Your horse ran last. Pay up or I send guido to collect.
SEE!!
I bet I can pay the G with some Xanax.
Quote from: AquaMan on August 08, 2011, 07:52:19 AM
SEE!!
I bet I can pay the G with some Xanax.
With the way he talks, I'm betting G looks more like Joe Pesci (the Lethal Weapon Joe, not the Casino Joe).
Useless thread alert!
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Quote from: Conan71 on August 08, 2011, 08:17:37 AM
Useless thread alert!
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Oh, come on now C! It's Monday morning. I can point you to MANY more threads that have a MUCH higher 'stupid' value.
Besides, this was a leftover from the weekend and it doesn't refer to the downgrading by Standard & Poors and what the market will do today and how its all one man's fault.
At least it didn't till now. Now is it worthy?
Quote from: AquaMan on August 08, 2011, 07:47:08 AM
You're grouping me with Sauer? Now that's harsh. :D
You know I wasn't grouping you with anyone. Those posters I was referring to that get their panties wadded up over Sauer or Q know who they are.
Don't you miss Shadows? I worry he may have been spirited away to a group home with no internet.
Quote from: AquaMan on August 08, 2011, 12:15:36 PM
Don't you miss Shadows? I worry he may have been spirited away to a group home with no internet.
Or may have shuffled off this mortal coil.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 08, 2011, 12:25:02 PM
Or may have shuffled off this mortal coil.
I wondered that too.
I looked for his name on the Obits and haven't seen it. I see he is still the name on the property deed on his north Mingo land.
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 07, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
It's "YOU'RE" not your...why am I wasting my time trying to educate the masses?
The clown seems to be getting there again.
I came across this video made at Aox/FOTD/Clown's house after his last TulsaNow account was "hacked"
Be warned, you are all now being watched by the Internet Police
JFC! Talk about spam-sucking trailer trash...
Quote from: AquaMan on August 08, 2011, 12:15:36 PM
Don't you miss Shadows? I worry he may have been spirited away to a group home with no internet.
I would agree with him on some things, but I think this is the poster RM had long ago issues with so I kinda stopped listening to him.
Five Points About Rick Perry's Prayer Rally Not Yet in Mainstream Press
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/8/8/114844/0135/Front_Page/Five_Points_About_Rick_Perry_s_Prayer_Rally_Not_Yet_in_Mainstream_Press
RUN REV PERRY RUN! Bring it! Our Nation is ready for this craziness!
I know too much. :D
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 08, 2011, 03:16:06 PM
I know too much. :D
Yes, it's quite the burden to be so much smarter and more informed than everyone else.
Quote from: swake on August 08, 2011, 03:34:28 PM
Yes, it's quite the burden to be so much smarter and more informed than everyone else.
It is a burden, but one that I can carry quite easily. Thanks for noticing. :P
Oh boy...he's tossing his cowboy hat into the ring on Saturday!
Last Saturday, I heard that Jesus tried to attend the stadium seance but was turned away by security for looking Arab.
Rev Perry can be certain "Real Christians " will do nothing to oppose his religious fascism. Cults are so sickening. Rick Perry is playing to the main audience of the republican party,the looney tune Fundamentalists. I can't wait for Michele Bachman and Perry to "duke " it out. I'm sending her a check too!
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 08, 2011, 10:25:01 PM
Oh boy...he's tossing his cowboy hat into the ring on Saturday!
Last Saturday, I heard that Jesus tried to attend the stadium seance but was turned away by security for looking Arab.
Rev Perry can be certain "Real Christians " will do nothing to oppose his religious fascism. Cults are so sickening. Rick Perry is playing to the main audience of the republican party,the looney tune Fundamentalists. I can't wait for Michele Bachman and Perry to "duke " it out. I'm sending her a check too!
This is a good thing. Perry and Bachmann will try to out Christian each other and will end up going so far to the right that they won't even be able to win a nomination. Romney is loving this.
Yeah, but he'll probably pick one of them for his running mate to satisfy that wing of the party. Sounds like deja vu all over again!
Quote from: AquaMan on August 09, 2011, 09:27:26 AM
Yeah, but he'll probably pick one of them for his running mate to satisfy that wing of the party. Sounds like deja vu all over again!
No, I doubt that. At least one and probably both are going to go for the Mormon jugular to save their campaign and will become toxic to him.
Pawlenty would bring a good shot at winning Minnesota with him (probably better than Bachmann) and is a nice, solid and safe conservative choice for Veep.
Quote from: swake on August 09, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
No, I doubt that. At least one and probably both are going to go for the Mormon jugular to save their campaign and will become toxic to him.
Pawlenty would bring a good shot at winning Minnesota with him (probably better than Bachmann) and is a nice, solid and safe conservative choice for Veep.
+1 on Romney and Pawlenty. Unfortunately, I think Romney is going to be demonized for being too moderate. The reality is, the GOP needs a moderate if they want independent voters who don't identify with the Tea Party or who have gotten caught up in the manufactured hype like "hostage taking" and "terrorists". Problem is for any GOP candidate though is the Tea Party represents a significant voting bloc which simply will not vote Democrat.
It's going to take more than the Tea Party voters and party-line GOP's to take over the White House.
Personally, I like either Romney or Herman Cain. Both have great leadership pedigrees. Just hoping if the nominee is Romney he doesn't pick a whack-a-doodle running mate.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 10:06:35 AM
+1 on Romney and Pawlenty. Unfortunately, I think Romney is going to be demonized for being too moderate. The reality is, the GOP needs a moderate if they want independent voters who don't identify with the Tea Party or who have gotten caught up in the manufactured hype like "hostage taking" and "terrorists". Problem is for any GOP candidate though is the Tea Party represents a significant voting bloc which simply will not vote Democrat.
It's going to take more than the Tea Party voters and party-line GOP's to take over the White House.
Personally, I like either Romney or Herman Cain. Both have great leadership pedigrees. Just hoping if the nominee is Romney he doesn't pick a whack-a-doodle running mate.
One would hope that the phrase 'those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it' would resonate there.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 10:06:35 AM
+1 on Romney and Pawlenty. Unfortunately, I think Romney is going to be demonized for being too moderate. The reality is, the GOP needs a moderate if they want independent voters who don't identify with the Tea Party or who have gotten caught up in the manufactured hype like "hostage taking" and "terrorists". Problem is for any GOP candidate though is the Tea Party represents a significant voting bloc which simply will not vote Democrat.
It's going to take more than the Tea Party voters and party-line GOP's to take over the White House.
Personally, I like either Romney or Herman Cain. Both have great leadership pedigrees. Just hoping if the nominee is Romney he doesn't pick a whack-a-doodle running mate.
I would hope that Cane is able to make an impact. I think Romney will end up being the candidate, but I also think there are some strange surprises lurking. Bachman has taken Palen's place in drawing fire from the left and she is performing that job with superb skill.
I think a Romney/Cain ticket may be a nice blend. Romney is smart, and skilled at running billion dollar businesses and budgets. Cain is not a 'sideline' guy so I think he will take a very active role in the business of government. Romney will draw the independent support and Cain will satisfy the Tea Party. Both have pledged to work toward a simplified tax code to different degrees and both are viewed by industry with a great deal of confidence. I think that even the mere prospect of such a ticket will have a profound effect on the economy, but to be successful we will have to overcome those who vote for a living.
Except for the fact that Cain is either a bit dim and/or nuts, and more than a little bigoted:
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WALLACE: You're saying any community, if they want to ban a mosque?
CAIN: Yes. They have a right to do that. That's not discriminating based upon religion.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/herman-cain-strives-for-new-levels-of-anti-muslim-buffoonery/2011/03/04/gIQAJ7WpLI_blog.html
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"I don't think [Israelis] have a big problem with people (Palestinians) returning. The issue is there are some things that they simply do not want to give in on," he said
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55484.html#ixzz1UXxOJNUs
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HERMAN CAIN, CEO, THE NEW VOICE: Hey, Neil, a reporter asked me would I appoint a Muslim to my administration? I did say no. And here's why. But the reporter didn't tell you this.
I would have to have people totally committed to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of this United States. And many of the Muslims, they are not totally dedicated to this country. They are not dedicated to our Constitution. Many of them are trying to force Sharia law on the people of this country.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/transcript/herman-cain-defends-controversial-muslim-comments
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CAIN: Engage the people. Don't try to pass a 2,700 page bill — and even they didn't read it! You and I didn't have time to read it. We're too busy trying to live — send our kids to school. That's why I am only going to allow small bills — three pages. You'll have time to read that one over the dinner table. What does Herman Cain, President Cain talking about in this particular bill?
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/07/238779/herman-cain-long-bills/
And these aren't misstatements or gaffes, these are (or were) his positions
Quote from: Gaspar on August 09, 2011, 10:19:34 AM
I would hope that Cane is able to make an impact. I think Romney will end up being the candidate, but I also think there are some strange surprises lurking. Bachman has taken Palen's place in drawing fire from the left and she is performing that job with superb skill.
I think a Romney/Cain ticket may be a nice blend. Romney is smart, and skilled at running billion dollar businesses and budgets. Cain is not a 'sideline' guy so I think he will take a very active role in the business of government. Romney will draw the independent support and Cain will satisfy the Tea Party. Both have pledged to work toward a simplified tax code to different degrees and both are viewed by industry with a great deal of confidence. I think that even the mere prospect of such a ticket will have a profound effect on the economy, but to be successful we will have to overcome those who vote for a living.
And of course there's the requisite character assassinations from the left as Swake so deftly proved.
Next, Cain will be referred to as an Uncle Tom. Liberals can't stand it when minorities or women rise to power on the right. It must really suck to be closeted bigots and misogynists. At least Rethugs are open and honest about it ;)
There's plenty of "crazy" photos of Hilarity Clinton, as well as well-documented fits of rage. However, was she ever drawn and quartered by Newsweek and referred to as "The Queen Of Rage"?
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Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 11:21:41 AM
And of course there's the requisite character assassinations from the left as Swake so deftly proved.
Next, Cain will be referred to as an Uncle Tom. Liberals can't stand it when minorities or women rise to power on the right. It must really suck to be closeted bigots and misogynists. At least Rethugs are open and honest about it ;)
There's plenty of "crazy" photos of Hilarity Clinton, as well as well-documented fits of rage. However, was she ever drawn and quartered by Newsweek and referred to as "The Queen Of Rage"?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023865-0D5AD05300000578-122_308x389.jpg)
wow, generalize much? Oh, I see what you did there!
;D
And let us not forget Cain's rage against Sharia law. Christie was blunt that such talk is just crazy. Talk about a great sound bite for the election.
Liberals don't like strong women? Very strange comment that is not based upon any facts I'm aware of. Perhaps you could enlighten me since the liberal wing brought in the very first female VP candidate, the first female Presidential candidate and the first female cabinet members, and the first female Congresswoman, ....that liberal wing?
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 11:21:41 AM
And of course there's the requisite character assassinations from the left as Swake so deftly proved.
Oh please.
Listing direct quotes from him on policy positions is a "Character Assassination"?
You think Cain's statements are ugly, nutty and/or stupid too, but will you admit it?
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 11:21:41 AM
. Liberals can't stand it when minorities or women rise to power on the right. It must really suck to be closeted bigots and misogynists. At least Rethugs are open and honest about it ;)
The winky smiley face means you're kidding right?
Quote from: AquaMan on August 09, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
And let us not forget Cain's rage against Sharia law. Christie was blunt that such talk is just crazy. Talk about a great sound bite for the election.
Liberals don't like strong women? Very strange comment that is not based upon any facts I'm aware of. Perhaps you could enlighten me since the liberal wing brought in the very first female VP candidate, the first female Presidential candidate and the first female cabinet members, and the first female Congresswoman, ....that liberal wing?
You glossed over the part of women and minorities "rise to power on the right". For some reason liberals seem to think blacks, hispanics, and women are their sole property.
Have you seen a female or black GOP candidate for major office who was not summarily dismissed as a nut case, or completely unfit for office?
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 11:56:57 AM
Have you seen a female or black GOP Democrat/liberal candidate for major office who was not summarily dismissed as a nut case, or completely unfit for office?
That door swings both ways amigo.
Not because of their race or sex I haven't. Usually they are allowed to prove it.
Quote from: swake on August 09, 2011, 11:40:40 AM
Oh please.
Listing direct quotes from him on policy positions is a "Character Assassination"?
You think Cain's statements are ugly, nutty and/or stupid too, but will you admit it?
Seriously? You call him a bit dim and/or nuts and more than a little bigoted and take the time to troll for four stories which you think will make that point.
Those are
character issues you raised, ergo character assassination.
What's wrong or nutty about getting rid of 2700 page bills? Would he keep to his word on only signing no more than three page bills? Of course not. Just like the days of former lobbyists working in the White House were over with the election of President Obama.
President Obama is just as much an oaf on the Israel issue.
As far as the Muslim issue, that's the only one which has any traction. He can kiss the Muslim vote good bye.
Sorry Swake, you are going to have to try harder.
QuoteExcept for the fact that Cain is either a bit dim and/or nuts, and more than a little bigoted:
Quote
WALLACE: You're saying any community, if they want to ban a mosque?
CAIN: Yes. They have a right to do that. That's not discriminating based upon religion.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/herman-cain-strives-for-new-levels-of-anti-muslim-buffoonery/2011/03/04/gIQAJ7WpLI_blog.html
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"I don't think [Israelis] have a big problem with people (Palestinians) returning. The issue is there are some things that they simply do not want to give in on," he said
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55484.html#ixzz1UXxOJNUs
Quote
HERMAN CAIN, CEO, THE NEW VOICE: Hey, Neil, a reporter asked me would I appoint a Muslim to my administration? I did say no. And here's why. But the reporter didn't tell you this.
I would have to have people totally committed to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of this United States. And many of the Muslims, they are not totally dedicated to this country. They are not dedicated to our Constitution. Many of them are trying to force Sharia law on the people of this country.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/transcript/herman-cain-defends-controversial-muslim-comments
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CAIN: Engage the people. Don't try to pass a 2,700 page bill — and even they didn't read it! You and I didn't have time to read it. We're too busy trying to live — send our kids to school. That's why I am only going to allow small bills — three pages. You'll have time to read that one over the dinner table. What does Herman Cain, President Cain talking about in this particular bill?
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/07/238779/herman-cain-long-bills/
And these aren't misstatements or gaffes, these are (or were) his positions
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
Seriously? You call him a bit dim and/or nuts and more than a little bigoted and take the time to troll for four stories which you think will make that point.
Those are character issues you raised, ergo character assassination.
What's wrong or nutty about getting rid of 2700 page bills? Would he keep to his word on only signing no more than three page bills? Of course not. Just like the days of former lobbyists working in the White House were over with the election of President Obama.
President Obama is just as much an oaf on the Israel issue.
As far as the Muslim issue, that's the only one which has any traction. He can kiss the Muslim vote good bye.
Sorry Swake, you are going to have to try harder.
Anyone with half a brain knows that government is complicated and hard, and that three pages is a silly and dangerous standard for laws and bills. It would leave an incredible amount of power to unelected and unanswerable bureaucrats. He is supposed to be a businessman. So tell me, how many billion dollar plus contracts are three pages? My guess is zero. If he doesn't know that then he was just a figurehead leader of his company and not really running it. So how long should bills that involve trillions of dollars be? In his world, three pages. This is a idiotic statement, he's either pandering and disingenuous, or just showing his stupidity with this position.
Anyone with half a brain knows that Israel is dead set against the right of return and would definitely give up all West Bank settlements before allowing it and would even probably give up East Jerusalem before they allow it. It would destroy Israel as we know it. To his benefit I think he had no idea what he was talking about. He comes off more ignorant than stupid here. But then, someone running for president had better have a working understanding of the issues in the Middle East and he plainly does not. The right of return is a major, maybe even the major sticking point in our biggest intractable problem that's the driving force behind the anger creating so many of our biggest problems from the price of oil to the War on Terror. And Mr Cain has no idea what The Right of Return even is.
The statements on Muslims and Mosques are bigoted and wrong and he apologized for them. That however does not change the fact that he made the statements, repeatedly and for a time defended them.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 11:21:41 AM
Next, Cain will be referred to as an Uncle Tom. Liberals can't stand it when minorities or women rise to power on the right. It must really suck to be closeted bigots and misogynists. At least Rethugs are open and honest about it ;)
w-t-f?
Quote from: we vs us on August 09, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
w-t-f?
I believe the new politically correct term is "Race Traitor."
Sharpton will be the first out of the chute to use it. Al Sharpton uses this term for any black man who does not happen to be Al Sharpton.
Then of course Ralph Nader will call him an "Uncle Tom" because he calls all black people who don't work for his campaign "Uncle tom."
. . .And of course Louis Farrakhan will rise up, and call Herman Cain an Uncle Tom, because Herman Cain has no use for Louis Farrakhan.
Fringe attacks mean very little, except to the less educated black voter. It's sad, because these would be the very people who would benefit the most from his stance on economic issues. Cain has a very Friedmanesque economic philosophy, and as a successful business man who literally came from nothing he has quite an investment in the concept opportunity for all people.
Quote from: swake on August 09, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
Anyone with half a brain knows that government is complicated and hard, and that three pages is a silly and dangerous standard for laws and bills. It would leave an incredible amount of power to unelected and unanswerable bureaucrats. He is supposed to be a businessman. So tell me, how many billion dollar plus contracts are three pages? My guess is zero. If he doesn't know that then he was just a figurehead leader of his company and not really running it. So how long should bills that involve trillions of dollars be? In his world, three pages. This is a idiotic statement, he's either pandering and disingenuous, or just showing his stupidity with this position.
Anyone with half a brain knows that Israel is dead set against the right of return and would definitely give up all West Bank settlements before allowing it and would even probably give up East Jerusalem before they allow it. It would destroy Israel as we know it. To his benefit I think he had no idea what he was talking about. He comes off more ignorant than stupid here. But then, someone running for president had better have a working understanding of the issues in the Middle East and he plainly does not. The right of return is a major, maybe even the major sticking point in our biggest intractable problem that's the driving force behind the anger creating so many of our biggest problems from the price of oil to the War on Terror. And Mr Cain has no idea what The Right of Return even is.
The statements on Muslims and Mosques are bigoted and wrong and he apologized for them. That however does not change the fact that he made the statements, repeatedly and for a time defended them.
You are really hung up on the three page bill issue. Do we really need 2700 pages to accomplish a stated goal with a bill? Talk about creating jobs and power for unaccountable bureaucrats! How about all the unrelated extra spending which gets tossed into 2000 page bills that now looks like a huge bucket of $15 trillion in debt?
Of course he's being idealistic about such a standard. He's no more idealistic than any other POTUS candidate has or will be Swake. It's his version of "transparency", I suspect.
Our
sitting president had no clue what he was talking about in terms of Israel in his "1967 borders" speech. In fact, many Israeli's interpreted it as an open hostility to Israel. His stated positions on Israel during the '08 election were full of nothing but simple generalities. He had no more a feel for foreign relations at this point in that campaign than Mr. Cain does. What exactly have President Obama's great foreign relations victories been so far?
Here's his mealy-mouthed understanding of Israel and Palestine, circa '07/'08:
Quote40) I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel's security
41) Finally, let there be no doubt: I will always keep the threat of military action on the table to defend our security and our ally Israel
42) Obama and Biden will make progress on the Israel-Palestinian conflict a key diplomatic priority. They will make a sustained push – working with Israelis and Palestinians-to achieve the goal of two states
43) I will implement a Memorandum of Understanding that provides $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade-investments to Israel's security that will not be tied to any other nation
44) Barack Obama and Joe Biden strongly support the U.S.-Israel relationship, believe that our first and incontrovertible commitment in the Middle East must be the security of Israel
45) He and Joe Biden believe strongly in Israel's right to protect its citizens
46) Barack Obama and Joe Biden have consistently supported foreign assistance to Israel
47) We have to press for enforcement of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1701, which demands the cessation of arms shipments to Hezbollah, a resolution which Syria and Iran continue to disregard
48) That's why we must strengthen the hands of the Palestinian moderates who seek peace and that is why we must maintain the isolation of Hamas and other extremists who are committed to Israel's destruction
49) We can and we should help Israelis and Palestinians both fulfill their national goals: two states living side by side in peace and security
50) I will strongly urge Arab governments to take steps to normalize relations with Israel
51) We also know that we should never seek to dictate what is best for the Israelis and their security interests. No Israeli Prime Minister should ever feel dragged to or blocked from the negotiating table by the United States.
52) I also believe that the United States has a responsibility to support Israel's efforts to renew peace talks with the Syrians.
53) The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.
Catalogued by a blogger, digest at your own risk.
http://ideapalooza.com/blog/?p=144
Apparently, the majority of liberals don't have half a brain:
QuoteZogby poll published last month says that liberal Americans overwhelmingly support the idea of negotiating with Hamas and the right of return of Palestinian refugees. And 4/5 Obama voters say it's time to get tough with Israel. You'd think Obama would be feeling his oats. But he's afraid of losing funding, I'm afraid. (Thanks, Annie). Stats:
In our March 2010 poll, commissioned by the Arab American Institute, when asked whether they agreed with the proposition that "both Israelis and Palestinians are entitled to equal rights," 84 percent of Americans agreed. And by a margin of 67 percent to 17 percent, Americans continued to support the notion that "there should be an independent Palestinian state."
A plurality agreed that Palestinians should be guaranteed "the right of return". Similarly, a plurality agreed that Israeli settlements built on Palestinian land in the West Bank "should be torn down and the land returned" to the Palestinians. And on the sensitive issue of Jerusalem, Americans are evenly divided as to whether the city should be partitioned or remain under Israeli control. Further, when asked straight out, "Should the US government get tough with Israel?"--a slight plurality agreed.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/07/hey-liberal-zionists-obama-voters-overwhelmingly-support-right-of-return.html
Quote from: Gaspar on August 09, 2011, 01:16:33 PM
I believe the new politically correct term is "Race Traitor."
Sharpton will be the first out of the chute to use it. Al Sharpton uses this term for any black man who does not happen to be Al Sharpton.
Then of course Ralph Nader will call him an "Uncle Tom" because he calls all black people who don't work for his campaign "Uncle tom."
. . .And of course Louis Farrakhan will rise up, and call Herman Cain an Uncle Tom, because Herman Cain has no use for Louis Farrakhan.
Fringe attacks mean very little, except to the less educated black voter. It's sad, because these would be the very people who would benefit the most from his stance on economic issues. Cain has a very Friedmanesque economic philosophy, and as a successful business man who literally came from nothing he has quite an investment in the concept opportunity for all people.
Great exchange on $harpton'$ MSNBC show with Pat Buchanan last week. Buchanan (not sure if it was a slip or he did it to piss $harpton off) said Obama was $harpton'$ 'boy'.
Scroll to about the 1 minute mark. The stunned look on Rev. Al'$ face is pricele$$
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 11:21:41 AM
And of course there's the requisite character assassinations from the left as Swake so deftly proved.
Next, Cain will be referred to as an Uncle Tom. Liberals can't stand it when minorities or women rise to power on the right. It must really suck to be closeted bigots and misogynists. At least Rethugs are open and honest about it ;)
There's plenty of "crazy" photos of Hilarity Clinton, as well as well-documented fits of rage. However, was she ever drawn and quartered by Newsweek and referred to as "The Queen Of Rage"?
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Talk about "Deer in the headlights" pose.
Rick Perry's Florida Co-Chair: Gays Cause Tornadoes
—By Tim Murphy
Does this tornado look gay? Fadil Basymeleh/Flickr
Earlier this week, Texas Gov. Rick Perry announced his leadership team for the "Presidency 5" straw poll in Florida, scheduled for October. Although most of the other major candidates have decided to skip the event, Perry is hoping a strong showing there will give him a boost ahead of the state's important early primary. So what's his strategy for voter outreach? It looks a lot like The Response, the prayer and fasting festival he organized in August at a football stadium in Houston.
Take, for instance, his new co-chair: Pam Olsen, founder of the Tallahassee House of Prayer (dubbed the "prayer lady" in her home state for reasons that should be self-evident) and a leading anti-abortion activist in the state. As Right Wing Watch notes, though, Olsen also believes that gay marriage, and its increasing acceptance among American Christians, is causing destructive natural disasters across the country. Here's what she said back in July:
God is shaking. If anybody looks at the news and has just seen what's been happening recently with the floods, the fires, the tornadoes, God is shaking. Yeah I think you have God shaking, sure you have the Enemy shaking, you have both and I don't want to say oh that's the judgment of God or that's the Enemy. But the reality is God is judging us, and I think it's going to get worse.
It's somewhat unclear why Texas, whose Governor supports criminalizing gay sex, would be punished with raging wildfires for having too high a tolerance for gay rights. But Olsen's view is wholly consistent with Perry's other allies on the religious right. The Response, you'll recall, featured a number of controversial pastors who believed that, among other things, 9/11 was God's way of punishing America for tolerating homosexuality and the blackbirds that died suddenly in Arkansas last winter were a harbinger of the End Times.
Ohhhh noz! It's teh ghey!
With DADT going into effect we are really in for some major disasters now!
Quote from: Conan71 on September 22, 2011, 02:51:51 PM
Ohhhh noz! It's teh ghey!
With DADT going into effect we are really in for some major disasters now!
I think that's the intent...but with this group of Moe Rons in the GOP race it is getting harder to see past their sex issues.
Interesting!
Flynt offers $1 million for proof of Perry affair
The Hustler publisher takes out ad in Texas newspaper seeking men or women who have slept with the governor
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/09/22/flynt_perry_sex/index.html
MEN or women... ha ha! Larry's so cool.
Rick Perry Rewrites His Own History Again, Claims He Never Considered Secession
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/22/325842/rick-perry-no-truth-on-secession/
Slow it down....we need this guy to get nominated.
Quote from: Teatownclown on September 22, 2011, 07:00:21 PM
Slow it down....we need this guy to get nominated.
Yeah, let's nominate a guy who ignores science as evidence a man on death row may be innocent, and tells school children, "We teach evolution and creationism in Texas, but you know which one is right".
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0412090169dec09,0,1173806.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0412090169dec09,0,1173806.story)
Quote from: dbacks fan on September 22, 2011, 10:02:07 PM
Yeah, let's nominate a guy who ignores science as evidence a man on death row may be innocent, and tells school children, "We teach evolution and creationism in Texas, but you know which one is right".
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0412090169dec09,0,1173806.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0412090169dec09,0,1173806.story)
I think his point is that the moderates/indies will likely not elect this guy, so they'll either vote for the incumbent, or they'll stay home.
Quote from: Hoss on September 23, 2011, 08:20:52 AM
I think his point is that the moderates/indies will likely not elect this guy, so they'll either vote for the incumbent, or they'll stay home.
It would mean so much more. Think of how the Republican party would be viewed if Perry is nominated.
Quote from: Townsend on September 23, 2011, 09:00:02 AM
It would mean so much more. Think of how the Republican party would be viewed if Perry is nominated.
Like they would care? We're beyond what people might think about the party. That is obvious from the health care, stimulus and debt limit debates. It is about winning. If Romney can't win, they won't nominate him. If Perry can win, they'll scrub him up, hook him up with a wireless headset and print the bumper stickers.
Its already started.
Quote from: AquaMan on September 23, 2011, 10:12:41 AM
Like they would care? We're beyond what people might think about the party. That is obvious from the health care, stimulus and debt limit debates. It is about winning. If Romney can't win, they won't nominate him. If Perry can win, they'll scrub him up, hook him up with a wireless headset and print the bumper stickers.
Its already started.
Same mechanism that gave us Obama only he prefers a teleprompter over a headset.
I knew that was coming, just wasn't sure who was up next.
Obama went through the process and a lot of folks didn't think he could beat McCain or in fact any republican. The final two candidates, Clinton and Obama, both polled well enough as capable AND able to beat any republican candidate among moderates, independents and progressives to encourage the party regulars. Either one would have sufficed. That's why the primary race was so close. It then became a battle of rules, recruiting, politicking and money.
You have to admit, that combination does not exist for republicans this year. Romney may be able to win the general but he's not acceptable to a large % of the hodgepodge of the rest of the party. The regulars could force Romney through but at the risk of losing the passionate voters. The fringes really like Perry, Bachmann et.al. but the party regulars and independents believe they are unelectable. Gotta' love the ying/yang of it.
It'll all work out.
Will anyone be surprised if Hillary runs?? I didn't think it could ever happen, but the last couple of months it is starting to look more and more real.
Romney would get the nomination if it were done within the next few months. He will have to shoot himself in the foot pretty bad, I think. As for the idiots attacking him for being Mormon...well, what can you say? They are ignorant. Of course.
Quote from: AquaMan on September 23, 2011, 01:29:11 PM
I knew that was coming, just wasn't sure who was up next.
Obama went through the process and a lot of folks didn't think he could beat McCain or in fact any republican. The final two candidates, Clinton and Obama, both polled well enough as capable AND able to beat any republican candidate among moderates, independents and progressives to encourage the party regulars. Either one would have sufficed. That's why the primary race was so close. It then became a battle of rules, recruiting, politicking and money.
You have to admit, that combination does not exist for republicans this year. Romney may be able to win the general but he's not acceptable to a large % of the hodgepodge of the rest of the party. The regulars could force Romney through but at the risk of losing the passionate voters. The fringes really like Perry, Bachmann et.al. but the party regulars and independents believe they are unelectable. Gotta' love the ying/yang of it.
It'll all work out.
Other than Reagan's second election, I really can't think of a GOP candidate who has really gotten the entire party pretty fired up in my life-time. We've got a habit of nominating somewhat less charismatic, even boring candidates. Bush I was fortunate because we were on a pretty good roll in the economy and he was seen as a component of that success. Basically, we voted for Reagan's third term. I didn't care for Bush I as he was a rolling gaffe machine himself when he was the VP.
Ford in '76. Yawn. There's a reason he was our first un-elected president.
Reagan was nominated with a fair amount of skepticism in 1980.
Dole in '96. Are you kidding?
Bush in 2000? Another Bush?
Bush in 2004? No one to oppose him in the primary, things were rolling along well economically by then and the war had not really become an issue in his own party.
McCain in 2008? What a pathetic pick. Most GOP's I know blame open primaries for this happening. He doesn't have a charismatic bone in his body. Plus he was in his mid-70's.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 23, 2011, 02:23:12 PM
McCain in 2008? What a pathetic pick. Most GOP's I know blame open primaries for this happening.
Perhaps they should blame themselves for feeling bad about Rove claiming in 2000 that he had an illegitimate black baby so as to exploit racism in South Carolina and throw the nomination to Bush. After that, McCain was seen by many as deserving the nomination once Bush was done. He got his chance, and maybe even could have pulled it off if not for the boneheaded move of selecting Palin as his running mate. Had he chosen a moderate Republican (possibly all the way to RINO territory to try to sway moderate Democrats his way) with strong business credentials he would have had a much easier time of it given the economic uncertainties.
I guess the whole Obama = hyper-liberal lie/meme hadn't taken off yet, so perhaps he still wouldn't have been able to do it.
Damn Obama's uppity DoJ: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/doj_rick_perrys_texas_redistricting_plan_purposefully_discriminated_against_minorities.php
Quote from: Conan71 on August 09, 2011, 11:21:41 AM
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Just another tweeker....
Quote from: Conan71 on September 23, 2011, 02:23:12 PM
Other than Reagan's second election, I really can't think of a GOP candidate who has really gotten the entire party pretty fired up in my life-time. We've got a habit of nominating somewhat less charismatic, even boring candidates. Bush I was fortunate because we were on a pretty good roll in the economy and he was seen as a component of that success. Basically, we voted for Reagan's third term. I didn't care for Bush I as he was a rolling gaffe machine himself when he was the VP.
Ford in '76. Yawn. There's a reason he was our first un-elected president.
Reagan was nominated with a fair amount of skepticism in 1980.
Dole in '96. Are you kidding?
Bush in 2000? Another Bush?
Bush in 2004? No one to oppose him in the primary, things were rolling along well economically by then and the war had not really become an issue in his own party.
McCain in 2008? What a pathetic pick. Most GOP's I know blame open primaries for this happening. He doesn't have a charismatic bone in his body. Plus he was in his mid-70's.
Ford was arguably the best President in the last 40 years. He vetoed more spending bills in the history of the Presidency at that time. He created no controversy, was a stable influence on the running of the country (he knew where all the skeletons were in Congress and knew how to twist arms behind the scenes - most effective at it since Lyndon Johnson). He was unelected because the American electorate has so much stupid - as can be noted by electing George W Bush to office once.
Bush 2004 - economy was in reality just a tiny bit better than it is now. With just a small increase in population - 10% from 2000 to 2010 - we have had about 40% increase in GDP (that's the measure of economic activity in the country for all the Fox News viewers). With what amounts to a pretty small dip in the recession from about 14.5 trillion to 13.7 trillion. So how is it with all that is supposedly happening in the economy, we still have 9% unemployed?? Oh, yeah...I remember...ship all the jobs to China. Give all the money to the top 1% of the population.
http://ycharts.com/indicators/gdp?gclid=CJ74i6-Au6sCFSwEQAodXQzQfw#zoom=10?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=US%20GDP%20history
We should be in an amazing boom time right now. If it weren't all 'monopoly money' in the banks, oil, and big insurance companies.
McCain was the best chance the Republicontins had to actually regain some sanity. Palin was the stupid 'sellout' choice. He should have picked Fred Thompson or Joe Lieberman. Either would have helped win it.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 26, 2011, 08:28:57 AM
Ford was arguably the best President in the last 40 years. He vetoed more spending bills in the history of the Presidency at that time. He created no controversy, was a stable influence on the running of the country (he knew where all the skeletons were in Congress and knew how to twist arms behind the scenes - most effective at it since Lyndon Johnson). He was unelected because the American electorate has so much stupid - as can be noted by electing George W Bush to office once.
Bush 2004 - economy was in reality just a tiny bit better than it is now. With just a small increase in population - 10% from 2000 to 2010 - we have had about 40% increase in GDP (that's the measure of economic activity in the country for all the Fox News viewers). With what amounts to a pretty small dip in the recession from about 14.5 trillion to 13.7 trillion. So how is it with all that is supposedly happening in the economy, we still have 9% unemployed?? Oh, yeah...I remember...ship all the jobs to China. Give all the money to the top 1% of the population.
http://ycharts.com/indicators/gdp?gclid=CJ74i6-Au6sCFSwEQAodXQzQfw#zoom=10?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=US%20GDP%20history
We should be in an amazing boom time right now. If it weren't all 'monopoly money' in the banks, oil, and big insurance companies.
McCain was the best chance the Republicontins had to actually regain some sanity. Palin was the stupid 'sellout' choice. He should have picked Fred Thompson or Joe Lieberman. Either would have helped win it.
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Quote from: nathanm on September 23, 2011, 06:30:11 PM
Damn Obama's uppity DoJ: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/doj_rick_perrys_texas_redistricting_plan_purposefully_discriminated_against_minorities.php
So why aren't they interested in going after the other few hundred or so gerrymandered districts or districts or specifically a few where white, successful people may have had their vote choice diminished?
Quote from: Conan71 on September 26, 2011, 09:31:43 AM
So why aren't they interested in going after the other few hundred or so gerrymandered districts or districts or specifically a few where white, successful people may have had their vote choice diminished?
Do you know of any?
Quote from: we vs us on September 26, 2011, 09:53:31 AM
Do you know of any?
That's a rhetorical, right?
That's the point of gerrymandering: marginalize the opposing parties base by re-drawing district lines. The president is using the DOJ to look at this as being racially-motivated instead of what it really is: marginalizing Democrat votes in a couple of districts. We all know Republicans are racist, therefore when district lines are re-drawn it's purely to take votes away from the brown people and black people. I bet they do that to the yellow people and teh gheys as well.
It would be laughable if it weren't for the president using public resources so freely to help his chances of re-election by trying to portray an opponent with good showing in the polls as a racist. That's greaseball Chicago politics at it's worst.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 26, 2011, 10:43:04 AM
That's a rhetorical, right?
That's the point of gerrymandering: marginalize the opposing parties base by re-drawing district lines. The president is using the DOJ to look at this as being racially-motivated instead of what it really is: marginalizing Democrat votes in a couple of districts. We all know Republicans are racist, therefore when district lines are re-drawn it's purely to take votes away from the brown people and black people. I bet they do that to the yellow people and teh gheys as well.
It would be laughable if it weren't for the president using public resources so freely to help his chances of re-election by trying to portray an opponent with good showing in the polls as a racist. That's greaseball Chicago politics at it's worst.
Not rhetorical; a serious question. Do you know of any credible allegations about a wealthy white district being broken up to keep the colored poor folks represented by Democrats? Forgive my skepticism but the absence of prosecutions doesn't amount to corruption or reverse racism. It might actually point to an absence of crime.
It might also be that the gerrymandering in TX actually amounts to something prosecutable. I know that seems like an outside possibility what with all Chicago-style
pizza corruption that this administration is known for ordering up, but I'd urge you to keep an open mind until they bring or don't bring charges.
And re: greaseball politics . . . we Democrats would love - LOVE -- to have a President who'd read up on some of Lyndon Johnson's more subtle and/or effective arm-twisting tactics but alas, to date, it seems he's taken a page out of the Jimmy Carter's
Kumbayah, Vol 1. I actually think the GOP would have a level of respect for a Democrat who chose to play politics in the grayer areas of laws/ethics/morals, and would at least grudgingly offer more compromise (read: choose to govern) if they knew there were below-the-belt consequences to their actions. But sadly, that's not how Obama's chosen to govern. He really does believe all of that stuff he spoke about in his 2004 DNC address, that we can be unified and are really one big purple nation, etc. Which is just the kind of rhetoric he'll ride into the dustbin of history if he doesn't straighten up and fly right.
Quote from: Gaspar on September 26, 2011, 08:38:21 AM
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Been eatin' too much barbeque??
I understand. Several of those booths elicited just that reaction!
Quote from: Conan71 on September 26, 2011, 10:43:04 AM
That's a rhetorical, right?
That's the point of gerrymandering: marginalize the opposing parties base by re-drawing district lines. The president is using the DOJ to look at this as being racially-motivated instead of what it really is: marginalizing Democrat votes in a couple of districts. We all know Republicans are racist, therefore when district lines are re-drawn it's purely to take votes away from the brown people and black people. I bet they do that to the yellow people and teh gheys as well.
It would be laughable if it weren't for the president using public resources so freely to help his chances of re-election by trying to portray an opponent with good showing in the polls as a racist. That's greaseball Chicago politics at it's worst.
Same as every ten years no matter who is in office.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 26, 2011, 11:35:11 AM
Same as every ten years no matter who is in office.
Are you aware of any other DOJ investigation into this at any previous time though? I'm sure not.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 26, 2011, 11:33:55 AM
Been eatin' too much barbeque??
I understand. Several of those booths elicited just that reaction!
There was some bad Q out there. I usually don't comment on others junk, but we had several people bring ribs over from one of the booths a few spots to the north of us and it tasted like the ribs were baked in ketchup.
Directly to the north of us Kick-Ash BBQ had some awesome ribs. Almost as good as ours (but apparently better in the judges eyes)!
Quote from: Conan71 on September 26, 2011, 11:38:26 AM
Are you aware of any other DOJ investigation into this at any previous time though? I'm sure not.
Into districts redrawn for the purpose (or with the effect of) of discrimination against minorities? The Voting Rights Act has been used literally hundreds of times since it was passed in the 60s. It would be a much larger number, but for the jurisdictions where preclearance is required.
If you really want to be pissed off about a federal investigation, how about the 100% political prosecution of former Mississippi Supreme Court Justice Oliver Diaz?
Quote from: Gaspar on September 26, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
There was some bad Q out there. I usually don't comment on others junk, but we had several people bring ribs over from one of the booths a few spots to the north of us and it tasted like the ribs were baked in ketchup.
Directly to the north of us Kick-Ash BBQ had some awesome ribs. Almost as good as ours (but apparently better in the judges eyes)!
I tasted your Q and it was good. Razz sauce is interesting, but I still prefer the more savory sauces - too much sweetness for my pancreas, I guess... And you guys looked awfully casual sitting back there letting the two up front do all the work! (LOL...I'm kidding. I'm sure you were all pretty worn down by the time I came by.)
Didn't do the Kick Ash ribs, but the pork (and brisket I think, if memory still working) was just ok to me.
I tried the pork at #46 (United Smokers of America is what they called themselves) and I just can't stop talking about it. It was incredible. Don't know if they do anything else - pork was all they had when I went buy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20120542-503544.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20120542-503544.html)
QuoteRepublican presidential candidate Rick Perry on Friday defended his wife Anita after she publicly charged that he had been "brutalized" on the campaign trail for his Christian faith by his political opponents and the press.
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No problems with his supporters tearing into other forms of Christianity either.
This is why Perry will not get the nomination. His ads are just to vague!
Great ad.....I want the one's condemning Mitt's cult!
GO RICKITY!
One of them admits it:
Perry says it was a 'mistake' for him to participate in 2012 debates
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/perry-says-mistake-him-participate-2012-debates-125805254.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/perry-says-mistake-him-participate-2012-debates-125805254.html)
So, how long before it comes out that he's backed by James Bakers Baker Botts law firm, and he's getting funding from Haliburton? He's owned by oil just like Bush, Cheney, W etal.
Is this his "booyah!"?
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/video-rick-perry-strange-stump-speech-n-h-141358760.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/video-rick-perry-strange-stump-speech-n-h-141358760.html)
QuoteRick Perry has already suggested that his campaign may scale back on planned debate appearances. To judge by the latest Perry video now going viral, he might want to consider reducing his campaign appearances across the board.
The Texas governor--who's already suffered plenty of criticism for substandard debate performances and his awkward stump style--was effusively expressive (some might say giddy) and went off on several prolonged tangents during a speech Friday night in Manchester, N.H. Perry spokesman Mark Miner responded to the Huffington Post Saturday that Perry was simply being "passionate."
Others went further. "Some People Might Say Rick Perry Was Drunk When He Gave This Speech," New York Magazine's Daily Intel declared. "It is the strangest Rick Perry video I have ever seen," wrote Mother Jones' Tim Murphy.
A viewer put together a montage of some of the speech's oddest moments. You can judge for yourself here:
Time for Perry to cut bait.
I want my money back!
Ha Ha....the GOP/Teabaggers got nothin'
Where are you conservative zombies going to turn on to?
So did Cain put drops of Bachmann juice in Perry's coffee last night? Was it to get back at leaking the "bad touch" stories?
http://swampland.time.com/2011/11/10/what-you-missed-while-not-watching-the-cnbc-oops-debate/ (http://swampland.time.com/2011/11/10/what-you-missed-while-not-watching-the-cnbc-oops-debate/)
Perry just misunderestimated the speed of his mouth compared to the speed he could turn his note card.
Quote from: dbacks fan on November 10, 2011, 12:41:33 PM
Perry just misunderestimated the speed of his mouth compared to the speed he could turn his note card.
Man, plaid speed compared to Steve Austin speed I guess.
First, I felt embarrassed that he showed up for the debate, then I saw him gaining speed, and was certain it would either end in a Jerry Springer moment or a scene from the movie Scanners. It turned out even worse.
He made Ron Paul look really good though.
(http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ron_paul_ap.jpg)
...and Herman Cain is leading in the polls....
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 10, 2011, 03:27:23 PM
...and Herman Cain is leading in the polls....
Well of course. She showed everyone his big 9.
. .9. . .9.
Quote from: Gaspar on November 10, 2011, 03:47:55 PM
Well of course. She showed everyone his big 9.
. .9. . .9.
Quote from: Gaspar on November 10, 2011, 03:47:55 PM
Well of course. She showed everyone his big 9.
. .9. . .9.
Number 9....
Number 9....
Number 9....
Number 9....
Isn't there a song...???