Payback for the O'Donnell attacks?
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Probably not so much, because unlike O'Donnell, she's not bat sh!t crazy....
Quote from: Hoss on October 12, 2010, 01:32:48 PM
Probably not so much, because unlike O'Donnell, she's not bat sh!t crazy....
Wow, did you see that grip she had on the dude's nose? There's anohter difference between her and Miss O'Donnell.
If you are going to post racy pictures of a candidate for office, at least post good ones.
http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/6509-dem-candidate-fires-back-after-racy-photos-surface
Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 12, 2010, 01:43:24 PM
If you are going to post racy pictures of a candidate for office, at least post good ones.
http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/6509-dem-candidate-fires-back-after-racy-photos-surface
Bless you Mike for doing the work I was too lazy to do.
So Guido posts constantly about how much more attractive the republican women have been lately and then posts against a hot Democrat.
I guess he's afraid the Republican congressmen will get busted molesting others besides the pages and men they meet in bathrooms.
I think it is no shock when democrats are having a good time. Face it, democrats are just more fun at parties.
here are some better ones
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Qualified
She has my vote.
Don't care what party she is, as long as she's at my party!
Looks like the party is in her mouth and everyone is coming......
Aaaaand scene.
Quote from: Townsend on October 12, 2010, 01:54:36 PM
So Guido posts constantly about how much more attractive the republican women have been lately and then posts against a hot Democrat.
I guess he's afraid the Republican congressmen will get busted molesting others besides the pages and men they meet in bathrooms.
First, I am not attacking Krystal over the photos. I think they are nothing more than someone having a good time at a college party. Actually, I saw her interviewed today on Megyn Kelly's show and she was quite articulate. She also said that she is upset with the savaging of Palin and O'Donnell over similar bullcrap and called for an end to politics of personal destruction.
Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't see the connection between these pictures and what O'Donnell has been getting. Christine O'Donnell went on TV and said some really stupid smile and continues to say equally stupid things to this day. She's been called out on her views, not her personal life.
Quote from: nathanm on October 12, 2010, 08:42:18 PM
Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't see the connection between these pictures and what O'Donnell has been getting. Christine O'Donnell went on TV and said some really stupid smile and continues to say equally stupid things to this day. She's been called out on her views, not her personal life.
What is more personal than whether she masturbates or dated a Wiccan?
It is not personal when you go on national TV and talk about it yourself. Who brought this up to the nation? She did
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 13, 2010, 09:01:50 AM
What is more personal than whether she masturbates or dated a Wiccan?
She said those things
on television. She brought it up.
I'm assuming the pics of Ms. Ball came from a public medium like FB or MySpace. No different than parading out your stupidity on TV. It's been documented in a very public manner.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 13, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
I'm assuming the pics of Ms. Ball came from a public medium like FB or MySpace. No different than parading out your stupidity on TV. It's been documented in a very public manner.
Which is perfectly fine, if that's where they came from. I'm just saying that the situations aren't really comparable. O'Donnell spoke very publicly about the things she's been given smile over.
Here's the lesson: if you think, say, or do stupid smile: don't record it if you ever plan to run for office ;)
I think we can all agree on that one.
Quote from: nathanm on October 13, 2010, 10:20:05 AM
She said those things on television. She brought it up.
And Krystal Ball likely posted those pictures on the internet.
Compare # of internet users to amount of people who watched politically incorrect a decade ago.
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 13, 2010, 01:12:57 PM
And Krystal Ball likely posted those pictures on the internet.
You still don't get the difference between a picture of you and your own words? ???
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 13, 2010, 01:12:57 PM
And Krystal Ball likely posted those pictures on the internet.
Compare # of internet users to amount of people who watched politically incorrect a decade ago.
Are you sure Scott? Do you know within a reasonable certainty that it was her who posted those photos, which, while reading them, were taken in 2002?
Was Facebook around then? Myspace? Any of those social websites? I know Twitter wasn't.
The difference is this: we know for certain that O'Donnell knew she was on a NATIONALLY TELEVISED TALK SHOW when she said that crazy stuff. She's sure to have known that when she was in the middle of making her decision to run. She ran anyway.
Did Krystal Ball know those photos were out there? Debatable, isn't it? I know I've found photos of me I've never posted to the internet. Most of the photos of me on FB are 20+ year old photos of me that I didn't realize people had.
FWIW, Friendster came into being in 2002, not that I ever used it.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 13, 2010, 11:37:33 AM
Here's the lesson: if you think, say, or do stupid smile: don't record it if you ever plan to run for office ;)
Actually there's an old political saying "Don't write it if you can say it, don't say it if you can imply it."
I think the problem is that people like Mrs. Ball need to be comfortable with their past enough to just embrace it.
Her official response should have been:
"Hell yeah I went to a costume party, and I looked good!"
Quote from: Hoss on October 13, 2010, 01:55:41 PM
Are you sure Scott? Do you know within a reasonable certainty that it was her who posted those photos, which, while reading them, were taken in 2002?
Was Facebook around then? Myspace? Any of those social websites? I know Twitter wasn't.
Good question considering she won't even say who the photographer was. As mentioned, friendster was around then and people were on it. (Joined in 2003 myself: http://profiles.friendster.com/sgrizzle) And there were tons of ways to embarass yourself on the internet before Facebook (Just like Napster wasn't the beginning of music downloading, it just made it easier for people to do so.)
Quote from: Hoss on October 13, 2010, 01:55:41 PM
The difference is this: we know for certain that O'Donnell knew she was on a NATIONALLY TELEVISED TALK SHOW when she said that crazy stuff. She's sure to have known that when she was in the middle of making her decision to run. She ran anyway.
Did Krystal Ball know those photos were out there? Debatable, isn't it? I know I've found photos of me I've never posted to the internet. Most of the photos of me on FB are 20+ year old photos of me that I didn't realize people had.
She didn't make the masturbation comments on a national talk show but rather in an MTV interview and the statements she made are very close to current Christian doctrine (masturbation generally involves lust and lust is bad) and in the Wiccan comment she made it clear she never was a practicing Wiccan but rather that she knew people who were.
Both seem pretty minor compared to posing for pictures while wearing lingerie and fellating a dildo.
Quote from: Gaspar on October 13, 2010, 04:02:27 PM
Actually there's an old political saying "Don't write it if you can say it, don't say it if you can imply it."
I think the problem is that people like Mrs. Ball need to be comfortable with their past enough to just embrace it.
Her official response should have been:
"Hell yeah I went to a costume party, and I looked good!"
+1
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 14, 2010, 07:36:23 AM
Both seem pretty minor compared to posing for pictures while wearing lingerie and fellating a dildo.
Yeah, but she's a Dimocrat, so it's irrelevant anyhow. She gets a pass on moral turpitude. And damn she sure looked fine in the commission of said turpitude.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 14, 2010, 09:26:16 AM
She gets a pass on moral turpitude. And damn she sure looked fine in the commission of said turpitude.
She's on the super low end of the scale when using moral turpitude as the offense.
Quote from: Townsend on October 14, 2010, 10:03:41 AM
She's on the super low end of the scale when using moral turpitude as the offense.
The guy was even her husband, and she's wearing far more clothes than most women at any beach.
Quote from: swake on October 14, 2010, 10:27:27 AM
The guy was even her husband, and she's wearing far more clothes than most women at any beach.
Yes, it's her with her husband, another woman with her husband, her with another woman and her with another woman and her husband.
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Quote from: sgrizzle on October 14, 2010, 12:56:17 PM
Yes, it's her with her husband, another woman with her husband, her with another woman and her with another woman and her husband.
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Hey, that was a weekend for me in the late '80s/early '90s. LOL
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 14, 2010, 07:36:23 AM
Good question considering she won't even say who the photographer was. As mentioned, friendster was around then and people were on it. (Joined in 2003 myself: http://profiles.friendster.com/sgrizzle) And there were tons of ways to embarass yourself on the internet before Facebook (Just like Napster wasn't the beginning of music downloading, it just made it easier for people to do so.)
She didn't make the masturbation comments on a national talk show but rather in an MTV interview and the statements she made are very close to current Christian doctrine (masturbation generally involves lust and lust is bad) and in the Wiccan comment she made it clear she never was a practicing Wiccan but rather that she knew people who were.
Both seem pretty minor compared to posing for pictures while wearing lingerie and fellating a dildo.
MTV is still nationally televised. And she said she "DABBLED INTO WITCHCRAFT" not DATED a witch. http://abcnews.go.com/News/christine-odonnell-dabbled-witchcraft/story?id=11671277 (http://abcnews.go.com/News/christine-odonnell-dabbled-witchcraft/story?id=11671277)
If you every slept with a non virgin you therefore "dabbled in sleeping with men" based on your definition. Its the same right? Dating somebody who did something vs "dabbling" in it.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 14, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
MTV is still nationally televised. And she said she "DABBLED INTO WITCHCRAFT" not DATED a witch. http://abcnews.go.com/News/christine-odonnell-dabbled-witchcraft/story?id=11671277 (http://abcnews.go.com/News/christine-odonnell-dabbled-witchcraft/story?id=11671277)
If you every slept with a non virgin you therefore "dabbled in sleeping with men" based on your definition. Its the same right? Dating somebody who did something vs "dabbling" in it.
Apparently Ms. O'Donnell doesn't dabble her female goodies, if she's to be believed. Poor lustless gal.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 14, 2010, 02:31:20 PM
Apparently Ms. O'Donnell doesn't dabble her female goodies, if she's to be believed. Poor lustless gal.
Per Elaine Benes, it makes her stupid.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 14, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
MTV is still nationally televised.
As I recall, it was on Comedy Central before moving to ABC. Yes, I'm nitpicking.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 14, 2010, 02:31:20 PM
Apparently Ms. O'Donnell doesn't dabble her female goodies, if she's to be believed. Poor lustless gal.
So opposed to the Muslims yet lives just like a female Muslim who had a clitorectomy
Quote from: Trogdor on October 14, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
MTV is still nationally televised. And she said she "DABBLED INTO WITCHCRAFT" not DATED a witch. http://abcnews.go.com/News/christine-odonnell-dabbled-witchcraft/story?id=11671277 (http://abcnews.go.com/News/christine-odonnell-dabbled-witchcraft/story?id=11671277)
If you every slept with a non virgin you therefore "dabbled in sleeping with men" based on your definition. Its the same right? Dating somebody who did something vs "dabbling" in it.
Her words, not mine:
"
I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what
they told me
they do,"
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 15, 2010, 07:12:15 AM
Her words, not mine:
"I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do,"
Still doesn't absolve her of these incredibly dim-witted quotes:
"American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains"
What?
"I dabbled into witchcraft—I never joined a coven. But I did, I did. I dabbled into witchcraft. I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do," (nice job of cherry picking the quote, Scott)
She herself has said 'I'm not a witch'. Her quote here indicates she 'dabbled' in it. So which is it, honey?
"God may choose to heal someone from cancer, yet that person still has a great deal of medical bills. The outstanding bills do not determine whether or not the patient has been healed by God."
Wow. That's deep.
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 15, 2010, 07:12:15 AM
Her words, not mine:
"I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do,"
Yes, she learned about witchcraft from other witches. She dabbled in a group. Guess she didn't buy the "learn witchcraft by yourself without any other witches" self help book. Dabble means to actively engage in (though not seriously). So she actively was engaged in witchcraft but didn't get too deep. Notice she says, I am not a witch. She doesn't say, I never practiced witchcraft, ever. Instead she basically says, at this exact moment I am not a witch. Which I am sure is true.. Oh and everybody gets curious in college so don't feel bad.
Quote from: Hoss on October 15, 2010, 07:23:56 AM
Still doesn't absolve her of these incredibly dim-witted quotes:
You are forgetting about not lying to the Nazis if you were hiding Jews.
If she gets elected all the spies will just call her since she can't lie.
Quote from: Hoss on October 15, 2010, 07:23:56 AM
"I dabbled into witchcraft—I never joined a coven. But I did, I did. I dabbled into witchcraft. I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do," (nice job of cherry picking the quote, Scott)
I didn't cherry pick the quote. Trogdor posted just the first part so I posted the second part.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 15, 2010, 07:45:13 AM
Yes, she learned about witchcraft from other witches. She dabbled in a group. Guess she didn't buy the "learn witchcraft by yourself without any other witches" self help book. Dabble means to actively engage in (though not seriously). So she actively was engaged in witchcraft but didn't get too deep. Notice she says, I am not a witch. She doesn't say, I never practiced witchcraft, ever. Instead she basically says, at this exact moment I am not a witch. Which I am sure is true.. Oh and everybody gets curious in college so don't feel bad.
Again, yes she said she "dabbled" and then EVERYTHING ELSE SHE SAID contradicts that.
Imagine if she had mentioned "my muslim faith"
Lets use the Translator
I dabbled into witchcraft - I actively participated in witchcraft
I never joined a coven - I didn't get serious enough to join a Coven
But I did, I did. I dabbled into witchcraft. - No, really, I know what you are thinking Grizzle, but I did dabble into witchcraft
I hung around people who were doing these things. -I had friends who were witches
I'm not making this stuff up. -No seriously Grizzle how more clear do I have to be, this isn't a joke.
I know what they told me they do - ?
So "EVERYTHING ELSE SHE SAID" condtradicts that, is only the last sentence. Which you interpret as, since she uses the word They, means that she wasn't talking about herself and excluding her. Which based on how she insists that this did in fact happen. I find it hard to believe.
Which, she would have said. "I hung around people who were doing these things, but I never dabbled into witchcraft or joined a coven or anything like that"
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 15, 2010, 08:27:12 AM
Again, yes she said she "dabbled" and then EVERYTHING ELSE SHE SAID contradicts that.
Imagine if she had mentioned "my muslim faith"
Muslim isn't exactly the same thing. Have you not seen snow white with the apples! she will give out poison apples for all if she is elected. And Prince will have to sign purple rain to wake us up.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 15, 2010, 10:05:51 AM
Muslim isn't exactly the same thing. Have you not seen snow white with the apples! she will give out poison apples for all if she is elected. And Prince will have to sign purple rain to wake us up.
Especially if said Muslim were a Democrat.
Back to the OP:
Let's face it, if Krystal Ball were running as a Republican the photos would be a huge scandal.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 15, 2010, 10:22:58 AM
Especially if said Muslim were a Democrat.
Back to the OP:
Let's face it, if Krystal Ball were running as a Republican the photos would be a huge scandal.
Maybe to Republican's, to me it depends on where she would be running. If O'donnell had them? Yes probably, given her stance on anything to do with sex. Has this candidate run on anti-sex? I would think probably not. Its not that these people are "Republican's" so they can't do this stuff. Its because the Republican's are the epitomy of morality and everybody else is a Godless heathen. So when you have your anti-gay law introducing senator or congressman who gets caught in the Men's bathroom. It is a story, just because of how two faced they are.
The pictures aren't working.. Somebody link new ones!
Quote from: Conan71 on October 15, 2010, 10:22:58 AM
Let's face it, if Krystal Ball were running as a Republican the photos would be a huge scandal.
Only because she would've said that dressing up for a party and allowing photos to be taken was against Jesus.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 15, 2010, 10:30:41 AM
Maybe to Republican's, to me it depends on where she would be running. If O'donnell had them? Yes probably, given her stance on anything to do with sex. Has this candidate run on anti-sex? I would think probably not. Its not that these people are "Republican's" so they can't do this stuff. Its because the Republican's are the epitomy of morality and everybody else is a Godless heathen. So when you have your anti-gay law introducing senator or congressman who gets caught in the Men's bathroom. It is a story, just because of how two faced they are.
The pictures aren't working.. Somebody link new ones!
And because dems are not the epitomy of morality, nor pretend to be, folks like trog find it completely acceptable that Rep. Frank's past boyfriend ran a prostition ring out of their home, Gov. McGreevey had random gay sex in bathrooms while married, or Ted Kennedy let a woman drown. It's kinda of like it should be expected of dems, that way they won't appear hypocritical. See how much sense that makes?
Quote from: guido911 on October 15, 2010, 11:59:45 AM
And because dems are not the epitomy of morality, nor pretend to be, folks like trog find it completely acceptable that Rep. Frank's past boyfriend ran a prostition ring out of their home, Gov. McGreevey had random gay sex in bathrooms while married, or Ted Kennedy let a woman drown. It's kinda of like it should be expected of dems, that way they won't appear hypocritical. See how much sense that makes?
Frank claims he didn't know there was a "ring" ran out of his apartment. http://newsbusters.org/node/8119 I don't know if that is true or not. I think you have some idea that there were tons of people around their apartment all the time and that the apt was their "meeting" place for business. In fact the guy probably just used the phone to make appointments. Please find the exact evidence in the case so that I can make an informed decision. Obviously newsbusters/fox news/nbc or any other new organization is not going to have an in depth view of it. Gov. McGreevy cheated on his wife, it doesn't matter if it was with a man or a woman. Should he be fired for it? Should a Republican be fired for it? No. Should a person who votes for or writes laws that contradicts their lifestyle be called out on it? Yes. #1 Ted Kennedy is dead #2 I wasn't alive when it happened. So I make no decision on what did or did not happen. Obviously the law should prevail and the name shouldn't carry any weight.
Looked up more info
After 18 months, Frank says, he dismissed Gobie upon discovering that he was bringing clients to Frank's apartment. Two years later, Gobie tried unsuccessfully to sell his story to the Washington Post. He then gave the story to the Washington Times for nothing, in hopes of getting a book contract for the male version of The Mayflower Madam. This week Gobie will appear on Geraldo, discussing his prospects for a television mini-series.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,958598,00.html#ixzz12RwIGXm6
So the guy (who was a hooker when he met Frank) was sleeping with men for money at Franks aparment. That isn't a "prostitution ring" that is a ho bein a ho. He said he "let him stay at his apartment". So I think it would be safe to assume that Frank wasn't there (probably in washington) when this occured.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 15, 2010, 12:32:33 PM
Looked up more info
After 18 months, Frank says, he dismissed Gobie upon discovering that he was bringing clients to Frank's apartment. Two years later, Gobie tried unsuccessfully to sell his story to the Washington Post. He then gave the story to the Washington Times for nothing, in hopes of getting a book contract for the male version of The Mayflower Madam. This week Gobie will appear on Geraldo, discussing his prospects for a television mini-series.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,958598,00.html#ixzz12RwIGXm6
So the guy (who was a hooker when he met Frank) was sleeping with men for money at Franks aparment. That isn't a "prostitution ring" that is a ho bein a ho. He said he "let him stay at his apartment". So I think it would be safe to assume that Frank wasn't there (probably in washington) when this occured.
But Trog, that doesn't matter to Tony, especially since Barney is a flamer. Dont you know that nearly all right wing kooks are afraid of teh ghey?
That's a common pattern I see though: "That was years ago" "It shouldn't make a difference" yet it usually seems to, pretty much killed Mark Sanford's political career. There also seems to be a vague defense placed around the event like Barney's pimp boyfriend, yet Marc Foley was instantly labeled a "pedophile" with no consideration whatsoever for the truth.
The most interesting part is libs don't ever seem to see the double-standards. For the most part, I see conservatives campaign on issues, liberals seem to make it more personal about the candidate (i.e. Palin, O'Donnell, Paul, McCain, Bush) and resort to playing the race, gender, or ethnic card at any chance. Logic vs. pathos.
Speaking of hypocrites, anyone else notice that Elliot Spitzerswallows has a show on CNN now?
Quote from: Conan71 on October 15, 2010, 12:43:19 PM
That's a common pattern I see though: "That was years ago" "It shouldn't make a difference" yet it usually seems to, pretty much killed Mark Sanford's political career. There also seems to be a vague defense placed around the event like Barney's pimp boyfriend, yet Marc Foley was instantly labeled a "pedophile" with no consideration whatsoever for the truth.
The most interesting part is libs don't ever seem to see the double-standards. For the most part, I see conservatives campaign on issues, liberals seem to make it more personal about the candidate (i.e. Palin, O'Donnell, Paul, McCain, Bush) and resort to playing the race, gender, or ethnic card at any chance. Logic vs. pathos.
Speaking of hypocrites, anyone else notice that Elliot Spitzerswallows has a show on CNN now?
Marc Foley was labeled quickly because of his stance on child pornography and sex crimes. You do remember him introducing a 2002 bill about child modeling exploitation don't you?
THAT was the double standard.
I think it's disgusting from both parties. But if you purport, in public mind you, to be against one lifestyle, then in private accept or even practice it, that's the hypocrisy. Especially when you get caught doing it. Republicans have more a history of being against alleged immorality then the Dems do.
As far as I'm concerned, both parties need to stay out of my perception of what's moral and what's immoral. The government definitely needs to keep out of the politics of morality.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 15, 2010, 12:32:33 PM
Looked up more info
After 18 months, Frank says, he dismissed Gobie upon discovering that he was bringing clients to Frank's apartment. Two years later, Gobie tried unsuccessfully to sell his story to the Washington Post. He then gave the story to the Washington Times for nothing, in hopes of getting a book contract for the male version of The Mayflower Madam. This week Gobie will appear on Geraldo, discussing his prospects for a television mini-series.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,958598,00.html#ixzz12RwIGXm6
So the guy (who was a hooker when he met Frank) was sleeping with men for money at Franks aparment. That isn't a "prostitution ring" that is a ho bein a ho. He said he "let him stay at his apartment". So I think it would be safe to assume that Frank wasn't there (probably in washington) when this occured.
Suuuuure I trust one of the most corrupt members of the HOR to be honest. The same guy who was shagging an exec at Fannie Mae while running interference for them for years on the House Banking Committee. The same guy who was saying up to within a month of the entire system imploding there was nothing going on at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and they were sound. The same guy who just happened to secure $60mm in mortgage bail-outs to people in Mass. during the fall campaign season.
Quote from: Hoss on October 15, 2010, 12:51:34 PM
Marc Foley was labeled quickly because of his stance on child pornography and sex crimes. You do remember him introducing a 2002 bill about child modeling exploitation don't you?
He was labeled quickly because it was nothing more than electioneering. Key Democrats knew long before this broke and could have aired it much earlier.
Point is: once the sharks finally came up for air, we learned that these pages were of legal age in the jurisdiction and he was not, in fact, a pedophile. It was a misleading and unfair characterization. I have a major problem of any member of Congress violating our trust and that of the page system. I've also got a problem with his hypocrisy given his public stances on gay issues. However, that didn't make it right to call him a pedophile before the facts were known.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 15, 2010, 12:43:19 PM
The most interesting part is libs don't ever seem to see the double-standards. For the most part, I see conservatives campaign on issues, liberals seem to make it more personal about the candidate (i.e. Palin, O'Donnell, Paul, McCain, Bush) and resort to playing the race, gender, or ethnic card at any chance. Logic vs. pathos.
Ever notice the comments about the current president, or Hillary Clinton? I'm not seeing moral high ground jumping out at me.
QuoteKey Democrats knew long before this broke and could have aired it much earlier.
Key Republicans kept it quiet as well. He just threw some of the biggest stones at his glass house. He got busted for it. "Pedophile" gets the biggest reaction so it's what everyone heard.
Oh well, if Frank, the Congressman, who in your opinions was just DUPED by his pimping boyfriend (makes you really think about his competence if he is to be believed), denied it, then I guess that ends it. And all those folks in the history of being charged with a crime and denied it, I guess they didn't do it either. But nice to know you lefties are so quick to absolve your own-and yes, Frank, McGreevey, Teddy are your own.
I'm just getting a kick out of the concept of anyone defending Barney. Every single American who owns a home or a business had lost money as a result of Barney's Fannie & Freddie.
This is also funny. He now has his boyfriend pretending to be a photographer, heckling his opponent.
"Upon exiting the most recent debate with Barney Frank, located at WGBH studios in Boston, MA, Republican Congressional candidate, Sean Bielat, gets heckled by a Barney Frank “supporter” while talking to the media. While watching this video, we realized that we recognized this “supporter”. We received confirmation from two eyewitnesses that the mysterious cameraman was none other than Barney Frank’s pot-growing boyfriend, James Ready."
So now you are against farmers.
Quote from: guido911 on October 15, 2010, 07:36:12 PM
Oh well, if Frank, the Congressman, who in your opinions was just DUPED by his pimping boyfriend (makes you really think about his competence if he is to be believed), denied it, then I guess that ends it. And all those folks in the history of being charged with a crime and denied it, I guess they didn't do it either. But nice to know you lefties are so quick to absolve your own-and yes, Frank, McGreevey, Teddy are your own.
This man grabbed his boot straps and was his own pimp. He was technically a CEO of his own small business. You should be saying he should have received tax cuts. I didn't say they didn't do it. I just can't find anything other than NBC/CBS/ABC stories which are fair and balanced. It is difficult to determine ones guilt based on even handed new articles. Show me a page with the detailed evidence in all the cases that isn't completely slanted by politics and I will look at it and form an opinion.
Quote from: Trogdor on October 18, 2010, 08:54:42 AM
This man grabbed his boot straps and was his own pimp. He was technically a CEO of his own small business. You should be saying he should have received tax cuts. I didn't say they didn't do it. I just can't find anything other than NBC/CBS/ABC stories which are fair and balanced. It is difficult to determine ones guilt based on even handed new articles. Show me a page with the detailed evidence in all the cases that isn't completely slanted by politics and I will look at it and form an opinion.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2010/10/14/frank_haunted_by_stance_on_fannie_freddie/?page=1
"In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal, in response to accounting scandals, for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal, supported by the head of Fannie Mae, reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities...are not facing any kind of financial crisis.... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."[52] In 2003, Frank also stated what has been called his "famous dice roll":[53] "I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness [in the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that we have in the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidised housing."[54]
Frank was criticized[who?] for campaign contributions totaling $42,350 between 1989 and 2008. Critics[who?] claim the donations from Fannie and Freddie influenced his support of their lending programs, and say that Frank did not play a strong enough role in reforming the institutions in the years leading up to the Economic crisis of 2008.[55] In 2006 a Fannie Mae representative stated in SEC filings that they "did not participate in large amounts of these non-traditional mortgages in 2004 and 2005."[56] In response to criticism, Frank said, "In 2004, it was Bush who started to push Fannie and Freddie into subprime mortgages, because they were boasting about how they were expanding homeownership for low-income people. And I said at the time, 'Hey—(a) this is going to jeopardize their profitability, but (b) it's going to put people in homes they can't afford, and they're gonna lose them.'" [5]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
Sorry about the wiki reference. I was actually Googling to try and find some sort of resume for Rep. Frank to see what private sector private experience he had to be such an expert on banking and home lending legislation and oversight. He has none.
Due to the absolute corruption which springs forth from elected officials overseeing industries, Congress should not be in the "oversight" business, as essentially this system is allowing corporations and SIG's to write their own rules of conduct by paying off legislators. Barney Frank doesn't deserve all the blame for this debacle, but he's sure got a lot of that blood on his hands.
Quote from: Gaspar on October 18, 2010, 08:20:17 AM
I'm just getting a kick out of the concept of anyone defending Barney. Every single American who owns a home or a business had lost money as a result of Barney's Fannie & Freddie.
This is also funny. He now has his boyfriend pretending to be a photographer, heckling his opponent.
"Upon exiting the most recent debate with Barney Frank, located at WGBH studios in Boston, MA, Republican Congressional candidate, Sean Bielat, gets heckled by a Barney Frank "supporter" while talking to the media. While watching this video, we realized that we recognized this "supporter". We received confirmation from two eyewitnesses that the mysterious cameraman was none other than Barney Frank's pot-growing boyfriend, James Ready."
I remember that story about Frank's BF growing pot at a home where Frank was at. Even then Frank apparently did not know it was happening.
Wow Barney sure seems in the dark on a lot of things. Think he's been puffing some fatties?
Quote from: Conan71 on October 22, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
Think he's been puffing some fatties?
Why Conan, what are you suggesting?
Quote from: Conan71 on October 22, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
Wow Barney sure seems in the dark on a lot of things. Think he's been puffing some fatties?
Isn't this a rhetorical question?
;)
Quote from: Trogdor on October 18, 2010, 08:54:42 AM
This man grabbed his boot straps and was his own pimp. He was technically a CEO of his own small business. You should be saying he should have received tax cuts. I didn't say they didn't do it. I just can't find anything other than NBC/CBS/ABC stories which are fair and balanced. It is difficult to determine ones guilt based on even handed new articles. Show me a page with the detailed evidence in all the cases that isn't completely slanted by politics and I will look at it and form an opinion.
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Quote from: Breadburner on October 24, 2010, 03:29:09 PM
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Bwahahahaha