OK ... that's just freaky. He's the most reticent politician I've ever heard.
I think the thing that most tripped my B.S. meter was he didn't have enough money to hire an attorney for his felony charge and got a public defender, but managed to fork over the ten grand for the filing fee. Something doesn't add up here.
I'm not thinking conspiracy, especially since Jim DeMint has one of the safest seats in the country. Because of that, DeMint would have absolutely no incentive to engage in a reckless and convoluted plot of having a plant.
(Of course, a lot of what's been coming out of South Carolina in recent weeks doesn't make much sense. But I digress.)
If Greene is legit, this is yet another example of voters not educating themselves and voting for a guy simply because his name sounded good. It reminds me of a few years ago when some guy whose last name was Bartlett (but not related to the prominent Bartlett family) won a local primary despite the fact he didn't do any campaigning at all.
GOP party plant. They've done it before in SC. Only state politically crazier than OK.
Quote from: Townsend on June 10, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
GOP party plant. They've done it before in SC. Only state politically crazier than OK.
Rep. Clyburn blames the tea partiers. I don't know one way or the other. Bottom line, 100,000 people voted for this guy and won the nomination. RW is right though, it is freaky.
New video:
Quote from: guido911 on June 10, 2010, 08:22:06 PM
Rep. Clyburn blames the tea partiers. I don't know one way or the other. Bottom line, 100,000 people voted for this guy and won the nomination. RW is right though, it is freaky.
New video:
Good grief, we've got Forrest Gump running for the Senate. :o
Too bad he isn't running in Oklahoma. What a refreshing breath fresh air over our senior Senator!
Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 10, 2010, 06:52:33 PM
OK ... that's just freaky. He's the most reticent politician I've ever heard.
I think the thing that most tripped my B.S. meter was he didn't have enough money to hire an attorney for his felony charge and got a public defender, but managed to fork over the ten grand for the filing fee. Something doesn't add up here.
I'm not thinking conspiracy, especially since Jim DeMint has one of the safest seats in the country. Because of that, DeMint would have absolutely no incentive to engage in a reckless and convoluted plot of having a plant.
(Of course, a lot of what's been coming out of South Carolina in recent weeks doesn't make much sense. But I digress.)
If Greene is legit, this is yet another example of voters not educating themselves and voting for a guy simply because his name sounded good. It reminds me of a few years ago when some guy whose last name was Bartlett (but not related to the prominent Bartlett family) won a local primary despite the fact he didn't do any campaigning at all.
No it's not voters not educating themselves, it's uneducated voters.
This guy should be the poster child for why some sort of civics literacy test should be required before someone is allowed to vote.
Simple questions such as how many States are in the Union? How many Supreme Court Justices are there? What are the 3 branches of government? OK, maybe throw in one trick question. What form of government do we have, a Democracy or a Republic?
Well, if he is a plant, it's one of the dumbest damned things I've ever seen. DeMint had the election in the bag. There's no reason why he should engage in ratf*cks.
So ... if Greene is a plant, we've got two scenarios:
1) DeMint's guys made one hell of a gamble and did it. Because if they're exposed, the fallout is going to be much, much worse than the meager gains that would have occurred. If true, it'll be labeled as one of the stupidest things to have happened in politics in a long time.
2) A rogue Republican supporter did the plant on his own without DeMint or his staff's knowledge.
But I'm still not sure what's going on here.
The ballot was organized alphabetically according to candidate first name. His name was at the top. voters in that area knew nothing about the candidates and simply chose the first name on the ballot. It happens all the time in local elections. It's called the "Ballot Order Effect" and has been studied extensivly since the early 90's. The effect is very strong in elections where the constituents know very little about the candidates.
Most electronic voting devices automatically rotate the names randomly to negate this effect, but unfortunately printing random ballots is not cost effective.
Of course George Bush did recently vacation in South Carolina and he could have done something to the ballot boxes?
I don't understand what the problem is. He got 60% of the vote. He's unemployed, and SC has an official 11.7% unemployment rate and close to a 19% effective unemployment rate. He's a veteran, and South Carolina has a very high veteran population. He's had some legal issues related to sexual crime, which democrats typically classify as unrelated to one's ability to be a leader. He has a genuine ambition to be representative of his constituency.
I don't understand why the Democrat Party refuses to support Mr. Green. I hope it's not a racial thing. Southern Democrats do have a poor track record with that. ;)
QuoteHe's had some legal issues related to sexual crime, which democrats typically classify as unrelated to one's ability to be a leader.
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QuoteI don't understand why the Democrat Party refuses to support Mr. Green. I hope it's not a racial thing. Southern Democrats do have a poor track record with that.
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and going for the gusto:
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But no, seriously, if the Dems support this cat, there's some creepy stuff on the coast.
Quote from: Townsend on June 11, 2010, 08:41:13 AM
But no, seriously, if the Dems support this cat, there's some creepy stuff on the coast.
All of the coasts. . .
(http://specfriggintacular.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/barbara-boxer.jpg)
(http://noblepatriot.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/pelosi-nancy-stare.jpg)
(http://iusbvision.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/cynthia_mckinney.jpg)
(http://www.douchebagreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/maxine-waters.jpg)
He is more obviously more intelligent than these folks.
1st pic: "Smell my finger"
2nd pic: "Whoa, I just smelled my finger"
3rd pic: "stuck in my finger and that light socket is live"
4th pic: I can't post that here
Here is an interview with the porn/obscenity accuser:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4236178/alvin-greenes-accuser-on-studio-b/?playlist_id=86928
That is strange. The guy does deserve our thanks and respect for thirteen years in the military no matter what his discharge was about. As far as holding a political office, it doesn't seem like it would work out too well for him or his state. He does memorize his lines well and when he gets in a pinch, he just keeps repeating them so that shows he has some political future. It looks like the poor guy is being used and doesn't even realize it.
Guido, thanks for the link. I just watched it now. I'm confused about one thing. The schools generally block internet porn so I'm wondering if he's guilty.
Quote from: Jammie on June 11, 2010, 08:50:29 PM
That is strange. The guy does deserve our thanks and respect for thirteen years in the military no matter what his discharge was about. As far as holding a political office, it doesn't seem like it would work out too well for him or his state. He does memorize his lines well and when he gets in a pinch, he just keeps repeating them so that shows he has some political future. It looks like the poor guy is being used and doesn't even realize it.
Good post.
Thank you.
BRB, Legally changing my name to Aaron A. Aaronson and running for office
Quote from: Jammie on June 11, 2010, 08:50:29 PM
That is strange. The guy does deserve our thanks and respect for thirteen years in the military no matter what his discharge was about. As far as holding a political office, it doesn't seem like it would work out too well for him or his state. He does memorize his lines well and when he gets in a pinch, he just keeps repeating them so that shows he has some political future. It looks like the poor guy is being used and doesn't even realize it.
Yep. I think you nailed it.
Between his admittedly "involuntary" discharge and his arrest, however, I think the guy's got issues.
Here comes the protest from the loser of that race:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_SENATE_SC?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-06-14-12-35-14
State Democrat party chair Jay Parmley????
Didn't we used to have a state or local Democrat Party chair named Jay Parmley?
This voter in the first video voted for this guy because his name reminded her of Al Green, the singer.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/14/south-carolina-voter-i-voted-for-alvin-greene-because-his-name-reminded-me-of-al-green/
bwahahaha
Quote from: guido911 on June 14, 2010, 08:45:25 PM
This voter in the first video voted for this guy because his name reminded her of Al Green, the singer.
Hmm, sounds eerily similar to a recent city election...
(http://www.cityoftulsa.org/media/62962/dewey-bartlett-150x190.jpg)
Quote from: TURobY on June 14, 2010, 09:34:09 PM
Hmm, sounds eerily similar to a recent city election...
(http://www.cityoftulsa.org/media/62962/dewey-bartlett-150x190.jpg)
Could one!!! :D
I think the democrats have a stick up their donkey because the voters chose a political nobody over their guy. So now they are resorting to all sorts of BS to try to get the guy removed, I think this could cost them any shot at a victory if they remove somebody the people have chosen during a primary. The republicans would have to have one hell of psychic telling them that they could win if they forked over ten grand for a filing fee of a political nobody and and no major campaigning.
Quote from: Gaspar on June 11, 2010, 07:27:52 AM
The ballot was organized alphabetically according to candidate first name. His name was at the top. voters in that area knew nothing about the candidates and simply chose the first name on the ballot. It happens all the time in local elections. It's called the "Ballot Order Effect" and has been studied extensivly since the early 90's. The effect is very strong in elections where the constituents know very little about the candidates.
I don't that. Someone is going to spend their free time to run to the polls, possibly wait in line during a primary election? The bigger the election the bigger the turnout and the less informed registered voters are participating . A primary election during a non-presidential election year is hardly big. I also have to wonder if there is any truth to the so called Ballot order effect or if that is just BS meant to insult the voters and deny the reality of why voters did not pick a particular candidate.
They interviewed several voters who said his name seemed familiar, and that's why they voted for him. LOL
If the Democrat party continues down this road to overturning a fair election on the basis of not liking a guy because he's not part of the machine, they are in for some serious damage. They will take on even more water than they currently are. Some wise Dem needs to take him under their wing and start the zombification process.
I'm kind of curious why the Studio B guy was casting aspersions about an involuntary honorable discharge?? And one here put it in quotes.
Pretty much by definition it is still honorable performance of the job. See below;
To receive an honorable discharge, a service member must have received a rating from good to excellent for their service. Service members who meet or exceed the required standards of duty performance and personal conduct, and who complete their tours of duty, normally receive honorable discharges. However, one need not complete a term of service to receive an honorable discharge, provided the reason for involuntary discharge is not due to misconduct.
So we know there was no misconduct of any kind - else he would not have it. Maybe a general discharge, but not honorable. So why the aspersion?
I bet the guy is more normal than most candidates - I like it. He has tweaked the Democrats AND Fox!! Gotta love that!!!
Just when you think this mess couldn't get more messier, here is what could happen with this election challenger from the loser Rawls:
QuoteThe executive committee will formally hear the primary election protests by Rawl Thursday afternoon. Following the hearing, the committee has three options: overturn the election and declare Rawl the nominee, order a redo of the election for Aug. 16 or uphold last week's results.
The "extreme" circumstance that Page said would warrant the committee overturning the results and awarding the nomination to Greene's opponent would be if Rawl can prove voting machine malfunctions or that paper ballots were not counted.
But if the committee went ahead with replacing Greene with Rawl, expect a firestorm reaction, said Ken Klukowski, a conservative constitutional lawyer co-wrote a book, "The Blueprint," with former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell. "You could have a federal constitutional challenge," he said. It could be argued, Klukowski said, that by automatically replacing Greene, who was popularly elected in the election, the state is violating citizens' right to vote.
The South Carolina Democratic party removing Greene, who is black, with Rawl, who is white, would likely spark questions about whether the ouster was racially motivated.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/17/how-alvin-greene-could-get-booted-from-the-ballot-in-south-carolina/
Wow, so after the Democrat Party hissy-fit over the 2000 Presidential election about how every vote counts, now they want to nullify the votes in the SC election to suit themselves, basically saying the voters shouldn't have a say.
Wow!
Just Wow!
Jackson?
Sharpton?
Cherp, cherp, cherp.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 17, 2010, 02:30:23 PM
Wow, so after the Democrat Party hissy-fit over the 2000 Presidential election about how every vote counts, now they want to nullify the votes in the SC election to suit themselves, basically saying the voters shouldn't have a say.
Wow!
Just Wow!
Hissy fit rejected. Greene's primary win upheld.
http://www.wltx.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=88697&catid=2
Can't wait for the debates!!!
Quote from: guido911 on June 17, 2010, 11:14:04 PM
Hissy fit rejected. Greene's primary win upheld.
http://www.wltx.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=88697&catid=2
Can't wait for the debates!!!
Yeah, whomever it is it will likely resemble a Rhode's Scholar (opponent) debating a pre-schooler (Greene)
He refused to answer the Fox Clown questions, so he might just refuse to debate, too. I like this guy more and more every day.
Anyone else watch that woman with her mommy who has accused him of porn? I wonder why I am reminded of the O'Keefe film attacking Acorn?? Contrived?
Sure seemed like mommy was pushing the agenda on that one. Would be very interesting to know a little more of her background. Like is she on the Fox payroll?? Personal assistant to Rupert Murdoch?? Newt Gingrich's latest girlfriend?? (Naw, even Newt has better taste than that...)
In spite of her Ann Coulter inspired wardrobe, we have no real direct evidence that she is on Ann's staff.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 18, 2010, 12:59:33 AM
He refused to answer the Fox Clown questions, so he might just refuse to debate, too. I like this guy more and more every day.
Anyone else watch that woman with her mommy who has accused him of porn? I wonder why I am reminded of the O'Keefe film attacking Acorn?? Contrived?
Sure seemed like mommy was pushing the agenda on that one. Would be very interesting to know a little more of her background. Like is she on the Fox payroll?? Personal assistant to Rupert Murdoch?? Newt Gingrich's latest girlfriend?? (Naw, even Newt has better taste than that...)
In spite of her Ann Coulter inspired wardrobe, we have no real direct evidence that she is on Ann's staff.
I'm impressed. You were able to squeeze anger at Fox, Merdoch, Gingrich, and Culter and tie them to a completely unrelated topic. Good work. You should write for KOS.
You know, Green traveled to Texas once while in the military, that obviously means he was recruited by George Bush. You missed that.
Quote from: Gaspar on June 18, 2010, 08:18:25 AM
I'm impressed. You were able to squeeze anger at Fox, Merdoch, Gingrich, and Culter and tie them to a completely unrelated topic. Good work. You should write for KOS.
You know, Green traveled to Texas once while in the military, that obviously means he was recruited by George Bush. You missed that.
lol
To be fair though, we do know the source of his opinion:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Lj5KP8OgZVk/SCOqfKtAOsI/AAAAAAAACFA/2zl-Lq5PzLE/s400/8557060_f14bd4f251.jpg)
Not THAT is a great hookah!
If I could get one of those I might just start smoking tobacco again!
Well, you don't have to worry, the Dumbocrats will take him down in the election. They are not about to let an "un-annointed" one win a major election. They would rather let the Republicontins win it.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 18, 2010, 12:40:41 PM
Dumbocrats
I find that insulting.
(http://rlv.zcache.com/dumbocrat_postcard-p239431140764726252td81_125.jpg)
That's exactly how it was supposed to be taken!! I'm proud of you!
Unfortunately, I spelled it differently than I intended. Dummycrats is what I meant, but hey, that works just as well.
That interview and the adult woman taking mommy to the interview is just too contrived. Typical Fox tactic. Valid connection.
Quote from: Gaspar on June 18, 2010, 12:52:59 PM
I find that insulting.
(http://rlv.zcache.com/dumbocrat_postcard-p239431140764726252td81_125.jpg)
I thought Dumbo was an elephant with ears big enough to make him fly. That would really be confusing to have an elephant associated with the
jackass Democrat party.
Alvin Greene redux in Texas:
QuoteSouth Carolina's unexpected Democratic nominee for the US Senate, mystery man Alvin Greene, says he wants to play golf with Barack Obama. But in Texas, another surprise Democratic primary winner, congressional nominee Kesha Rogers, wants to impeach the President. So while South Carolina party officials are still unsure of what to do about Greene's success at the ballot box, Texas Democrats have no such reservations — they wasted little time in casting Rogers into exile and offering no support or recognition of her campaign to win what once was Republican Majority Leader Tom DeLay's old seat.
Rogers, 33, told TIME she is a "full time political activist" in the Lyndon LaRouche Youth Movement, a recruiting arm of the LaRouche political organization that is active on many college campuses. The LYM espouses LaRouche opposition to free trade and "globalism" (the UN, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund) and it also calls for a return to a humanist classical education, emphasizing the works of Plato and Leibnitz. On her professional looking campaign website, kesharogers.com, she touts the LaRouche political philosophy — a mix of support for the economic policies of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and the impeachment of President Obama — and calls Obama a "London and Wall Street backed puppet" whose policies will destroy the Democratic Party. During the campaign, she was photographed carrying an oversized portrait of the President with a Hitler-style moustache penciled on his lip.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1998076,00.html?xid=rss-topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Ftopstories+%28TIME%3A+Top+Stories%29#ixzz0rR2lVtJq
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1998076,00.html?xid=rss-topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Ftopstories+%28TIME%3A+Top+Stories%29
The latest from Alvin Greene. He now has a web site.
http://wonkette.com/416353/wonkette-exclusive-the-alvin-greene-interview
Here is his web site. Green background of course.
Make a contribution if the spirit moves you.
http://www.alvingreeneforussenator.com/
Are we sure this is not a Saturday Night Live Skit put together by Lorne Michaels?
Meet this
Republican candidate for Kentucky governor:
Quote from: guido911 on July 23, 2010, 10:42:30 AM
Meet this Republican candidate for Kentucky governor:
He is special!
Wherever do you find these things?
Quote from: azbadpuppy on July 23, 2010, 11:11:09 AM
He is special!
Wherever do you find these things?
Slogan on a t-shirt:
"Welcome to Kentucky...please set your clocks back 20 years"
Quote from: Hoss on July 23, 2010, 12:18:04 PM
Slogan on a t-shirt:
"Welcome to Kentucky...please set your clocks back 20 years"
Only 20? He makes Otis from the Andy Griffith Show a multiple PhD.
Quote from: guido911 on July 23, 2010, 10:42:30 AM
Meet this Republican candidate for Kentucky governor:
Nice. Did you notice his lobotomy scar?
Quote from: Conan71 on July 23, 2010, 12:37:20 PM
Nice. Did you notice his lobotomy scar?
I would rather have a bottle in front of me instead of a frontal lobotomy.
dbacks,
You and I must know each other from somewhere. There are only about 7 people on the planet that use that phrase and I know all of them.
Comedy Gold:
Back to talking about Delaware....
Quote from: guido911 on October 12, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
Comedy Gold:
Back to talking about Delaware....
It is funny, but it's hard to make fun of the obviously handicapped. Sorry, "differently abled", and he's certainly different.