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Title: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on April 22, 2010, 09:47:11 AM
Hey Gang, is there any low cost non-stop bus or train service from "T" Towne to Fort Worth Texas (up & back)? Driving down to Fort Worth is 250 miles one way and fuel prices are high plus my old heap does not need any more wear & tear on it, it's pushing 300,000 miles as it is (1990 F-150 truck). Flying is alot of hassle now a days and rental cars are expensive to drive from the airport to Fort Worth. Just wondering thanks. It'll be great if Tulsa had a rapid rail system to Fort Worth.  8)
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on April 22, 2010, 09:51:10 AM
Heartland Flyer from OKC to Ft. Worth.  Otherwise check Greyhound's schedule.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: dbacks fan on April 22, 2010, 10:19:50 AM
"Non-stop" Tulsa to Ft. Worth? You're joking right?
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Hoss on April 22, 2010, 10:23:23 AM
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 22, 2010, 10:19:50 AM
"Non-stop" Tulsa to Ft. Worth? You're joking right?

This is the cooked cabbage we're talking to, remember?
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Breadburner on April 22, 2010, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: Hoss on April 22, 2010, 10:23:23 AM
This is the cooked cabbage we're talking to, remember?

Cooked and Rotted....haha....
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: bmuscotty on April 22, 2010, 01:30:53 PM
http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer/AM_Route_C/1241245668272/1237405732511
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: nathanm on April 22, 2010, 03:18:37 PM
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 22, 2010, 09:47:11 AM
rental cars are expensive to drive from the airport to Fort Worth.
Pro tip: When renting a car, do not rent from the airport. Avis and Hertz both have cars for reasonable prices at their off-airport locations, despite their highway robbery at the airport.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: dbacks fan on April 22, 2010, 04:18:45 PM
Quote from: Hoss on April 22, 2010, 10:23:23 AM
This is the cooked cabbage we're talking to, remember?

I knew he was cooked, but this is boiled pickeled and totally wasted territory.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 22, 2010, 08:54:55 PM
Have taken the train from OKC to Ft Worth and it is good.  Park at the Marriott lot across from station and hop on.  Can rent a car (Enterprise) at the Ft Worth train station.  Eat at Cattlemen's in old town area.  Exceptional!

Monday through Friday is kind of like riding the bus, but weekends seem to have more "touristy" types.  Christmas train is fun, too.

But you gotta get to OKC.

It's a very nice trip.

Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: dbacks fan on April 23, 2010, 12:06:32 AM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 22, 2010, 08:54:55 PM
Have taken the train from OKC to Ft Worth and it is good.  Park at the Marriott lot across from station and hop on.  Can rent a car (Enterprise) at the Ft Worth train station.  Eat at Cattlemen's in old town area.  Exceptional!

Monday through Friday is kind of like riding the bus, but weekends seem to have more "touristy" types.  Christmas train is fun, too.

But you gotta get to OKC.

It's a very nice trip.



sk Is a cheapster, he will whine about having to drive to OKC, or worse yet, whine that there is no express bus service to the AmTrak terminal in OKC.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: AngieB on April 23, 2010, 06:59:04 AM
And good God, man. STOP calling it "T" Towne. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on April 23, 2010, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: nathanm on April 22, 2010, 03:18:37 PM
Pro tip: When renting a car, do not rent from the airport. Avis and Hertz both have cars for reasonable prices at their off-airport locations, despite their highway robbery at the airport.
Yeah I know that but getting off the airport grounds to find a cheaper car rental place is a hassle in it's own right - Driving to OKC is 112 miles to catch a train to Fort Worth, I might as well drive south on highway 75 and be half way to Fort Worth with those 112 miles I used driving to OKC. Fort Worth is a odd distance too far to drive too close to fly. Anyhow thanks gang. I'll digest the info.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on April 23, 2010, 10:22:22 AM
Quote from: AngieBrumley on April 23, 2010, 06:59:04 AM
And good God, man. STOP calling it "T" Towne. Sheesh.
That's what  people call it- There was some big  event in Tulsa not long ago  and they called it "The T-Town art show".. Dallas Texas is offten called "The Big "D"....  Fort Worths nickname is "CowTown". ::)
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: AngieB on April 23, 2010, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 23, 2010, 10:22:22 AM
That's what  people call it- There was some big  event in Tulsa not long ago  and they called it "The T-Town art show".. Dallas Texas is offten called "The Big "D"....  Fort Worths nickname is "CowTown". ::)

Dude. I've lived in Tulsa all of my 44 years and "people" do NOT call it T-town. It's antiquated and corny. Unless you're 87 years old, get over it and call it Tulsa.

T-town could be Tecumseh (of which there are 5) or Toledo (there are 6), there is only ONE Tulsa. Don't dilute our identity.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Hoss on April 23, 2010, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 23, 2010, 10:22:22 AM
That's what  people call it- There was some big  event in Tulsa not long ago  and they called it "The T-Town art show".. Dallas Texas is offten called "The Big "D"....  Fort Worths nickname is "CowTown". ::)

WRONG...tht's what some smartass marketer calls it.  Smartass marketer wouldn't live here.

Might be kinda like you.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: joiei on April 23, 2010, 02:12:37 PM
I have never heard of the "T-town art show".  Give us a link otherwise we will know that your just trying to pull an Omaha on us. 
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on April 23, 2010, 05:01:22 PM
There is a Dallas, SD.  I had relatives there.  I think they call it "Little D"  ;D
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on April 24, 2010, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: joiei on April 23, 2010, 02:12:37 PM
I have never heard of the "T-town art show".  Give us a link otherwise we will know that your just trying to pull an Omaha on us. 
Sure- it was just in the ads, it was some sort of event/show that billed it's-self as "T-Town"- I see the name "T-Town" alot. I bet there are companies that call themselfs "T-Town- something" in the phone book.  such as "T-Town Plumbing".. Many posters here say that the word "T-Town" is not used, but if you look around you really do see it alot. :-\
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: joiei on April 26, 2010, 09:39:54 AM
According to Urban Dictionary,  "T-Town" is not site specific to just Tulsa.   It has also been used as a descriptor for "tacoma tampa t town florida ttown oklahoma washington teutopolis arizona tuscaloosa taunton dirty t tucson trigger city roll tide tyngsboro tulsa oklahoma hilltop phoenix town tyngsborough trigger boring first lady assassins trenton gross fla toronto city".

Quote1.    T-Town    70 up, 52 down
   
An abreviation for any village, town, city, or populated area whose legitimate name starts with T. Often used by youth to make their current location sound more "street".
I live in Tacoma, WA - T-Town.
My friend lives in Toronto - T-Town.
hood local stomping ground turf sad abreviation
by Mad_Rhetoric Sep 25, 2005 share this

another one

Quote2.    T Town    13 up, 48 down
   
An abbreviation of the city of Torrington, Connecticut. Other abbrieviations include Borrington or Whorington. Either of those abbrieviations will give you exactly what you need to know about Torrington.
I truly loathe T Town.

and another

Quote3.    t town    29 up, 66 down
   
Abbreviation for Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
We hung out in t town before the game.
tuscaloosa t-town ttown t town roll tide
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: dbacks fan on April 26, 2010, 12:41:51 PM
um, what about the trolley?

http://ttowntrolley.wordpress.com/ (http://ttowntrolley.wordpress.com/)

just saying
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: dbacks fan on April 26, 2010, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: joiei on April 26, 2010, 09:39:54 AM
According to Urban Dictionary,  "T-Town" is not site specific to just Tulsa.   It has also been used as a descriptor for "tacoma tampa t town florida ttown oklahoma washington teutopolis arizona tuscaloosa taunton dirty t tucson trigger city roll tide tyngsboro tulsa oklahoma hilltop phoenix town tyngsborough trigger boring first lady assassins trenton gross fla toronto city".

another one

and another


You forgot one, Troll Town Omaha style.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Red Arrow on April 26, 2010, 12:45:44 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 26, 2010, 12:41:51 PM
um, what about the trolley bus made up to look like an early 1900s trolley?

http://ttowntrolley.wordpress.com/ (http://ttowntrolley.wordpress.com/)

just saying
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on April 26, 2010, 01:17:34 PM
Yep the trolly is "T" Towne- Some posters here act as if I invented the word "T" Town,- I did not invent that word trust me, I learned it from being here. Go to the business section of the phone book and go to the "T's" you'll find tons of companies that call themselfs "T-Town" this &  "T Town" that. "T" Town grass cutting, "T" Town painting, "T" Town body shop on & on the list goes. I have seen Tee Shirts that say "T" Town this or "T" Town That. As for Dallas, that city is offten called "The Big D" and Fort Worth is called "Cow-Town" .... Billy Bobs Texas Anyone? 8)
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on April 26, 2010, 01:20:25 PM
BTW~ I'm planning on going to Fort Worth this week, going to drive my old heap.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: custosnox on April 26, 2010, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 26, 2010, 01:17:34 PM
Yep the trolly is "T" Towne- Some posters here act as if I invented the word "T" Town,- I did not invent that word trust me, I learned it from being here. Go to the business section of the phone book and go to the "T's" you'll find tons of companies that call themselfs "T-Town" this &  "T Town" that. "T" Town grass cutting, "T" Town painting, "T" Town body shop on & on the list goes. I have seen Tee Shirts that say "T" Town this or "T" Town That. As for Dallas, that city is offten called "The Big D" and Fort Worth is called "Cow-Town" .... Billy Bobs Texas Anyone? 8)

No, they act like you are trying to use an overused marketing scheme in reference to a city that most are quiet proud of.  Yes you see it on the name of a lot of businesses, but as I said, it's an overused marketing ploy.  No one that lives here actually refers to it as such.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: TheArtist on April 26, 2010, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: custosnox on April 26, 2010, 01:22:34 PM
No, they act like you are trying to use an overused marketing scheme in reference to a city that most are quiet proud of.  Yes you see it on the name of a lot of businesses, but as I said, it's an overused marketing ploy.  No one that lives here actually refers to it as such.

I use it,  its just a common nick name I have heard all my life here, no big deal.... Can't recall ever hearing it being use as some sort of "marketing scheme"?   
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: TURobY on April 26, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
Quote from: TheArtist on April 26, 2010, 01:28:25 PM
I use it,  its just a common nick name I have heard all my life here, no big deal.... Can't recall ever hearing it being use as some sort of "marketing scheme"?   
I'm sorry to do this, but I'm also going to have to back-up Sauerkraut here and say that I too have heard and use the term "T-Town" quite often. Sure, I say "Tulsa" way more than I say "T-Town", but I say "T-Town" on ocassion when referring to Tulsa in areas with cultural and regional ties to Tulsa (such as OKC, Wichita, and Houston).
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Renaissance on April 26, 2010, 02:09:22 PM
Good lord, what is wrong with saying "T-Town?"  I heard it all the time growing up and still use it occasionally now when referencing the city.  230 businesses agree: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=tulsa+t-town&fb=1&gl=us&hq=t-town&hnear=tulsa&view=text&ei=W-bVS5udCZDW9ATF64zDDw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=4&ved=0CCgQtQMwAw
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on April 26, 2010, 02:19:34 PM
I think it's adding the "e" to the end of Town that's pissing people off.  I've heard T-Town all my life, BTW
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: custosnox on April 26, 2010, 02:27:44 PM
I guess I should rephrase.  I say marketing scheme because it has become a mantra for business names.  I guess scheme isn't the best word for it, but it is what came to mind as I was writing.  As far as people that live here not calling it t-town, I'm sure we have all refered to it affectionatly as such, but what I'm refering to is during a general conversation such as when someone asks where you are from, where you are going, where something was made or something along those lines.  Most of the locals use t-town more whimsically, where as kraut seems to use it as a substitute for Tulsa.

What really gets me is when people call it Tulsey Town.  I know the accepted history is that is what Tulsa once was called, but to be honest, I have found not a single shred of historical evidence to back it up, and I have looked.  But that is a whole other can of worms.
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: swake on April 26, 2010, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: custosnox on April 26, 2010, 02:27:44 PM
What really gets me is when people call it Tulsey Town.  I know the accepted history is that is what Tulsa once was called, but to be honest, I have found not a single shred of historical evidence to back it up, and I have looked.  But that is a whole other can of worms.

That's because Tulsey is incorrect. It's correctly Tallasi which is a creek town name from Alabama pre relocation. Tallasi became Tulsee which became Tulsa

http://www.tulsalibrary.org/tulsahistory/communities.php
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: custosnox on April 26, 2010, 02:44:46 PM
Quote from: swake on April 26, 2010, 02:37:08 PM
That's because Tulsey is incorrect. It's correctly Tallasi which is a creek town name from Alabama pre relocation. Tallasi became Tulsee which became Tulsa

http://www.tulsalibrary.org/tulsahistory/communities.php

The name " Tulsa" (originally spelled Tulsey or Tulsee) is a shortened pronunciation of Tallasi, which is almost certainly a contraction of Tullahassee or Tallahassee, meaning "Old Town"("Tulwa," meaning town, and "ahassee," meaning something old) in the Creek language.

that is what is on the library site, which mentions Tulsey and Tulsee as well.  Problem is, this is all speculation and passing on from one person to a next.  Even the history books that I have poored over trying to find the source of this doesn't say.  I think that is why it irritates me so much is because I can't find evidence of this, but it's constantly passed on as being so without anything supporting the claim.  Even the Tallasi is speculation, and actual historians that I have read on the subject will generally say something along the lines of "it is believed to originated from". 

Sorry, I just like going to the source for things before saying that it's true.  I've caught myself too many times in the past passing along a story about this or that because that is what everyone believed to be true, only to find out it wasn't. 
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 26, 2010, 09:32:25 PM
Probably the biggest reason no official mention is made of Tulsey is because it is slang.  Maybe someone in 1887 called it that in serious discussion, but for the last 90 years, the useage is just casual and slang.  So is T-town.

I have been hearing both for over 55 years.  And nowhere in official documents.

Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: custosnox on April 26, 2010, 09:52:51 PM
As posted from the library, it is put around as being originating as Tulsey or Tulsee from Tallasi.  But as I said, i can't find anything, even from 1887 or anywhere near then, that refers to it as such.  Often it's said that Tulsa is listed as one of these other names on maps originally, but again I have turned up nothing.  Just saying it gets me when people pass these on as "historical facts" without anything that backs it up.  But it's just one of my personal pet peeve. 

/thread highjack (hopefully)
Title: Re: Fort Worth -To- Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 26, 2010, 10:08:22 PM
Sometimes very difficult to trace down true origins for this kind of stuff.  Like all slang, it just seems to appear and either hang around, or not.

1887 is just a number I pulled out of my backside.  The origins go back before the late 1920's, since that is when my family started hanging around Tulsa area and they heard it in that time frame.  Before that, half the family was doing the "land grab" thing over to the west, while the other half were getting their land grabbed.