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Title: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
Is anybody going to the show this week? She will be in town with that guy from Glenbeckistan at a show at the convention center.

The BokCenter will have a basketball tournament going on, the PAC will be showing the Gridiron comedy show, and the Cain's ballroom is booked for a show with six bands.

It should be a full night in downtown Tulsa.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 09:07:12 AM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
Is anybody going to the show this week? She will be in town with that guy from Glenbeckistan at a show at the convention center.

The BokCenter will have a basketball tournament going on, the PAC will be showing the Gridiron comedy show, and the Cain's ballroom is booked for a show with six bands.

It should be a full night in downtown Tulsa.

O'Riley is speaking at the Salvation Army Dinner on Saturday.  Ya goin?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2010, 09:21:52 AM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 09:07:12 AM
O'Riley is speaking at the Salvation Army Dinner on Saturday.  Ya goin?

Odd that a non-profit  group like the Salvation Army would bring in such a partisan political figure to speak at their banquet. Bill O'Reilly is no better than Michael Moore. I would think a charity would have more sense.

Having someone like him as the speaker makes me not want to put any money in their red kettles.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2010, 09:21:52 AM
Odd that a non-profit  group like the Salvation Army would bring in such a partisan political figure to speak at their banquet. Bill O'Reilly is no better than Michael Moore. I would think a charity would have more sense.

Having someone like him as the speaker makes me not want to put any money in their red kettles.

So. . . That's a no?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: patric on March 08, 2010, 09:48:42 AM
She should combine her book tour with bounty hunter and media whore Duane "Dog" Chapman, who will be in town promoting his self-pitty book detailing how betrayed he feels after his son outed him calling his girlfriend the "N-word".

What a pair they would make, and they appeal to the same demographics.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 08, 2010, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2010, 09:21:52 AM
Odd that a non-profit  group like the Salvation Army would bring in such a partisan political figure to speak at their banquet. Bill O'Reilly is no better than Michael Moore. I would think a charity would have more sense.

Having someone like him as the speaker makes me not want to put any money in their red kettles.

O'Reilly partisan? He's the "No spin zone", remember?


/spewing coffee
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: patric on March 08, 2010, 09:54:43 AM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2010, 09:21:52 AM
Odd that a non-profit  group like the Salvation Army would bring in such a partisan political figure to speak at their banquet. Bill O'Reilly is no better than Michael Moore. I would think a charity would have more sense.
Having someone like him as the speaker makes me not want to put any money in their red kettles.

Salvation Army may be non-profit but they sure arent non-political.  Ask the motorcycle lobby group A.B.A.T.E. why they parted company with the SA on their Christmas children's toy drive.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: TURobY on March 08, 2010, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: patric on March 08, 2010, 09:54:43 AM
Salvation Army may be non-profit but they sure arent non-political.  Ask the motorcycle lobby group A.B.A.T.E. why they parted company with the SA on their Christmas children's toy drive.

I know a few GLBT groups and individuals that also refuse to work with SA, due to their anti-gay rights stance.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: sgrizzle on March 08, 2010, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: TURobY on March 08, 2010, 10:37:53 AM
I know a few GLBT groups and individuals that also refuse to work with SA, due to their anti-gay rights stance.

Somehow I assumed the Salvation Army was don't ask/don't tell.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 11:07:43 AM
Well they are a Christian organization, so I would assume they probably have Christian beliefs, and an organizational compass that is guided by Christian principals. 

So. . . I doubt they will see too much support from Gay rights groups, NAMBLA, or a host of other organizations that require recognition and legitimization to survive.

Did you know that they have CROSSES stitched on the lapels of their uniforms? 

Men, get the pitch forks!

Statement of inclusion:
( by "men" I mean men, women, transgendered/transexual, and everyone inbetween  :-\)

Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 08, 2010, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 08, 2010, 09:54:27 AM
O'Reilly partisan? He's the "No spin zone", remember?


/spewing coffee

Stop bloviating...

;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 08, 2010, 11:16:23 AM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 11:07:43 AM
Well they are a Christian organization, so I would assume they probably have Christian beliefs, and an organizational compass that is guided by Christian principals. 

So. . . I doubt they will see too much support from Gay rights groups, NAMBLA, or a host of other organizations that require recognition and legitimization to survive.

Did you know that they have CROSSES stitched on the lapels of their uniforms? 

Men, get the pitch forks!

Statement of inclusion:
( by "men" I mean men, women, transgendered/transexual, and everyone inbetween  :-\)



I'm surprised the ACLU hasn't managed to get the "world's largest cross" near Groom, Tx. dismantled.  You CAN see it from a gubment-funded highway after all.

Just came to mind since we drove past it last week.

Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: TURobY on March 08, 2010, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 11:07:43 AM
Well they are a Christian organization, so I would assume they probably have Christian beliefs, and an organizational compass that is guided by Christian principals. 

So. . . I doubt they will see too much support from Gay rights groups, NAMBLA, or a host of other organizations that require recognition and legitimization to survive.

I have no problem with them having their belief systems. I chose to work with organizations which do not make religion a large part of their charity work, precisely because I realize that I will have less conflicts with them.

As an aside, I must admit that I was a little taken back by your grouping of gay rights and NAMBLA together. I fail to see the connection there and have absolutely no qualms with saying that I felt your comment to be one of the most ignorant things I've read in a while (and I've read many posts between FOTD and Guido  ;))
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 12:58:46 PM
Quote from: TURobY on March 08, 2010, 11:53:12 AM
I have no problem with them having their belief systems. I chose to work with organizations which do not make religion a large part of their charity work, precisely because I realize that I will have less conflicts with them.

As an aside, I must admit that I was a little taken back by your grouping of gay rights and NAMBLA together. I fail to see the connection there and have absolutely no qualms with saying that I felt your comment to be one of the most ignorant things I've read in a while (and I've read many posts between FOTD and Guido  ;))

I was simply trying to provide examples of organizations who's existence is based more on recognition and exploitative litigation than actual service to their respective groups.  I had no intension of establishing any "grouping" with exception to the adoption of similar battlements.

I was simply giving example of organizations that I assume the Salvation Army would shy away from and vise versa. 

Interesting to note, I would assume the Salvation Army would never withhold compassion and service from any person no matter what their walk in life is.  I could care less what a charitable group's religious/philosophical beliefs are.  As I do with people, I judge groups on their actions, and I CANNOT find fault with The Salvation Army. 

No, they do not worship as I do, or vote as I do.  They may adopt beliefs that I disagree with, but that simply does not give me reason to cast their good work aside.

I suppose I'm trying to expand my "ignorance" and find a nice cozy place right in between FOTD and Guido.  I think that's where sanity lies.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: rwarn17588 on March 08, 2010, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: patric on March 08, 2010, 09:54:43 AM
Salvation Army may be non-profit but they sure arent non-political.  Ask the motorcycle lobby group A.B.A.T.E. why they parted company with the SA on their Christmas children's toy drive.

OK ... clue me in. What was ABATE's beef with the Salvation Army?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: shadows on March 08, 2010, 01:32:40 PM
In the title to your post you use 2012 as possibly the end of our solar system caused by the aligning of the planets with the sun.
Its prediction is subject to the gravitation forces of which we know little about.
When you hold a pencil out and drop it does it fall up or down? Neither as it is no longer at rest but under control of gradational forces that we cannot define or isolate.
The prediction of the possible ending of the planet is based on the upheaval from the molting core of the earth along with the combined forces of gravitation as unlike forces attract each other thus holding the planets in our solar system in orbits.
As the planets rush toward aligning we are already getting signs of such with the devastating earthquakes to where sciences' are saying they are moving our planet a very small distance off its orbit.
Now Sarah Palin running for the presidency could be overshadowed by the presumption if she were to win then it would be equal to the predicting of our solar system, one of a possible three trillion, would be a total catastrophe.
Course in the political circles the female are taking over and they may do a better job than the male has done.
If they did there could be a lot of sex changes in the future.   
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: sgrizzle on March 08, 2010, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on March 08, 2010, 01:16:34 PM
OK ... clue me in. What was ABATE's beef with the Salvation Army?

Salvation Army wanted them to wear helmets?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 08, 2010, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on March 08, 2010, 01:33:07 PM
Salvation Army wanted them to wear helmets?

IIRC, it was a conflict over control of the annual Tulsa toy run.  I seem to remember that the split was due to ABATE's support of "Toys For Tots" which is sponsored by the U.S. Marine Corps and the Starvation Army skimming more off the toy donations than was agreed.  I believe there was also a dispute over event costs.  Personally, I thought the problem was mostly with egos more than anything else.  Could be wrong on the donation splitting issue, and a correction on that point is certainly appreciated if anyone else remembers different.

I rarely participate in the runs any more, it's hard on clutches and brakes and there's too many near misses with motorcyclists who only get their bike out and put on their biker costume once or twice a year.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 08, 2010, 01:49:11 PM
Quote from: shadows on March 08, 2010, 01:32:40 PM
In the title to your post you use 2012 as possibly the end of our solar system caused by the aligning of the planets with the sun.
Its prediction is subject to the gravitation forces of which we know little about.
When you hold a pencil out and drop it does it fall up or down? Neither as it is no longer at rest but under control of gradational forces that we cannot define or isolate.
The prediction of the possible ending of the planet is based on the upheaval from the molting core of the earth along with the combined forces of gravitation as unlike forces attract each other thus holding the planets in our solar system in orbits.
As the planets rush toward aligning we are already getting signs of such with the devastating earthquakes to where sciences' are saying they are moving our planet a very small distance off its orbit.
Now Sarah Palin running for the presidency could be overshadowed by the presumption if she were to win then it would be equal to the predicting of our solar system, one of a possible three trillion, would be a total catastrophe.
Course in the political circles the female are taking over and they may do a better job than the male has done.
If they did there could be a lot of sex changes in the future.   


OK, I had a bit of a migraine already this afternoon...you've gone and made it worse.  It's time to mark you as 'ignore'.  Or as the internet old timers remember, "PLONK!".
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 08, 2010, 01:49:11 PM
OK, I had a bit of a migraine already this afternoon...you've gone and made it worse.  It's time to mark you as 'ignore'.  Or as the internet old timers remember, "PLONK!".

Wow! That brings up memories.  Old Usenet stuff.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: guido911 on March 08, 2010, 03:13:31 PM
Hey now, what is with the attacks on me today?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 08, 2010, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 03:04:21 PM
Wow! That brings up memories.  Old Usenet stuff.

Correct.  It's an acronym.  Anyone remember what it stands for (admittedly there were several, any one of them would work)?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Red Arrow on March 08, 2010, 03:48:04 PM
Google "plonk acronym" and you'll get plenty of definitions, too many to link to.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 03:57:27 PM
Quote from: guido911 on March 08, 2010, 03:13:31 PM
Hey now, what is with the attacks on me today?

Symbolic. 

Yin & Yang stuff.

You are the unbending reed.  FOTD is the fluttering cloth.

In steady breeze you hold your stay.   FOTD simply makes fartlike-fluttering noises.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: guido911 on March 08, 2010, 04:04:10 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 03:57:27 PM
Symbolic. 

Yin & Yang stuff.

You are the unbending reed.  FOTD is the fluttering cloth.

In steady breeze you hold your stay.   FOTD simply makes fartlike-fluttering noises.


That was poetic. It brought a tear to my eye. Oh, I gots me some thick skin and can take ribbing.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Ed W on March 08, 2010, 04:12:46 PM
Quote from: shadows on March 08, 2010, 01:32:40 PM
In the title to your post you use 2012 as possibly the end of our solar system caused by the aligning of the planets with the sun.
Its prediction is subject to the gravitation forces of which we know little about.
When you hold a pencil out and drop it does it fall up or down? Neither as it is no longer at rest but under control of gradational forces that we cannot define or isolate.
The prediction of the possible ending of the planet is based on the upheaval from the molting core of the earth along with the combined forces of gravitation as unlike forces attract each other thus holding the planets in our solar system in orbits.

Even if the planets are aligned, it cannot cause the destruction of our solar system.  Gravitational fields are directly proportional to mass and the sun has far more mass than all the planets combined.  Then there's the inverse square law that applied to all fields, gravity included.  It states that field strength decreases by the square of the distance, so something 3 times farther away has 1/9 the strength.  Something 100 times farther away has 1/10,000.  We are roughly 93 million miles from the sun.  Mars is roughly another 90 million miles out, and Jupiter, the first of the gas giants, is 180 million miles past Mars.  Even when aligned, their gravitational fields have an infinitesimal effect on our planet.

Frankly, I think we should be far more concerned about a possible attack on our city by either Godzilla or Mothra.  
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: waterboy on March 08, 2010, 05:24:02 PM
Damn that Mothra.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 10, 2010, 09:44:53 PM
I've supported them to the best of my ability for too many dozens of years.  And a good portion of that time it was with a nose plug for some of the crap they have pulled.

ABATE and Army were to blame for that - just about equally.  ABATE left its roots behind like an old pair of panties and the Army was it's normal arrogant self, claiming the Toy Run was "theirs".  ABATE had some factions that wanted to support Marines (since SA was so arrogant) and some wanted to stay with Salvation Army.  Marines won.  (Even though everyone knows that the Marines give all their leftover toys to the Salvation Army...)

The second Major back from the one they have now (before Daniel New) was an ex-CIA guy - can't remember his name.  And he kind of ran the show a lot like that.  Pretty effective given the financial mess his predecessor left...but he seemed to alienate a lot of the big givers in town.  (All our little kettle contributions are pretty tiny compared to what the whales give.)

They have some really great people there and the volunteers are fantastic!  (Me too, whenever possible).  And they actually DO what Jesus would do rather than make catchy phrases and amusement parks!

They really DO the most good.  Even though they can really piss ya off at times.







 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 11, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Since we are so far off topic anyhow:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/3087265571_719fd642fd.jpg?v=1228604691)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 11, 2010, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 11, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Since we are so far off topic anyhow:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/3087265571_719fd642fd.jpg?v=1228604691)

Wow!  That makes me feel excited, refreshed, and a little molested all at the same time.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 05:18:20 PM
Hmm. I think it may be about time to break out that Big Jamoke I bought the other day.  ;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 11, 2010, 07:02:01 PM
Quote from: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 05:18:20 PM
Hmm. I think it may be about time to break out that Big Jamoke I bought the other day.  ;D

Good stuff.  Damn, now I have to make a trek to see if any remains...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 09:23:51 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 11, 2010, 07:02:01 PM
Good stuff.  Damn, now I have to make a trek to see if any remains...
It's a little too hoppy for my taste, but still relatively tasty.

My apologies to Eric, but Yuengling needs to get their butt over this way. I'm still kicking myself for forgetting to get a case of Yuengling Lager when I was in Alabama. I would have shot for a keg, but you can't really fit a keg on a Learjet.  :o (And getting it back down there would be freaking expensive!)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Red Arrow on March 11, 2010, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 09:23:51 PM
but you can't really fit a keg on a Learjet.  :o (And getting it back down there would be freaking expensive!)

Only if you have to hide it.  The keg isn't that much worse than a large passenger.  Take the empty back on the next trip.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on March 11, 2010, 10:04:22 PM
Only if you have to hide it.  The keg isn't that much worse than a large passenger.  Take the empty back on the next trip.
We were two people lighter on the way back. Damn my lack of imagination!

Hiding would not be an issue. My client down there is a beer distributor. (and Yuengling is one of their brands!) I have a strong feeling that everyone involved would be impressed by the thought.

Hopefully I'll be going down there again in a few months. Anybody around here got a kegerator? I'll trade pulls for storage!  ;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: carltonplace on March 12, 2010, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 08, 2010, 03:57:27 PM
Symbolic. 

Yin & Yang stuff.

You are the unbending reed.  FOTD is the fluttering cloth.

In steady breeze you hold your stay.   FOTD simply makes fartlike-fluttering noises.


And together they are a flag!...or a clothesline.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 12, 2010, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 10:13:46 PM
We were two people lighter on the way back. Damn my lack of imagination!

Hiding would not be an issue. My client down there is a beer distributor. (and Yuengling is one of their brands!) I have a strong feeling that everyone involved would be impressed by the thought.

Hopefully I'll be going down there again in a few months. Anybody around here got a kegerator? I'll trade pulls for storage!  ;D

cannon_fodder has a three kegger cooler in his garage, I'd almost guarantee he'd go for it.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 12, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
I believe it is a sign of Palin spooners who want to change the topic off of Sarah and on to local beer.

Anybody going to see Palin/Beck/apocolypse 2010?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 12, 2010, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 12, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
I believe it is a sign of Palin spooners who want to change the topic off of Sarah and on to local beer.

Anybody going to see Palin/Beck/apocolypse 2010?

I'm going downtown, but only to photograph the ballpark, weather (and decent lighting) permitting.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: kylieosu on March 12, 2010, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 12, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
I believe it is a sign of Palin spooners who want to change the topic off of Sarah and on to local beer.

Anybody going to see Palin/Beck/apocolypse 2010?

You couldn't pay me enough to go. I'll be out doing some local shopping instead.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 12, 2010, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 12, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
I believe it is a sign of Palin spooners who want to change the topic off of Sarah and on to local beer.

Anybody going to see Palin/Beck/apocolypse 2010?

You say that as if spooning with Sarah would suck.

Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Townsend on March 12, 2010, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 12, 2010, 04:16:36 PM
You say that as if spooning with Sarah would suck.

QuoteHer first baby came out sideways, she didn't scream or nothin

Sure about that?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Townsend on March 12, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
I was actually trying to get the wife to go to the area to people watch.  Wish the weather was going to be warmer.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Ed W on March 12, 2010, 06:19:02 PM
I'd love to photograph the circus outside the Crazy Train Express, but it's just not possible.  It could make for some fine images.

If anyone else does, please, please, please post them!
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Red Arrow on March 12, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 12, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
I believe it is a sign of Palin spooners who want to change the topic off of Sarah and on to local beer.

Anybody going to see Palin/Beck/apocolypse 2010?

My mom wants to but can only walk a small distance and parking nearby enough for her would be a problem.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Red Arrow on March 12, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
Quote from: kylieosu on March 12, 2010, 04:12:39 PM
You couldn't pay me enough to go. I'll be out doing some local shopping instead.

I think there would be a price high enough to make you go.  No one cares enough about your opinion to pay the price.

Reminds me of the old joke about the old guy offering the young good looking girl a $1 million to "sleep" with him.  She says yes. Then he says how about $100.......

Never say "Whatever it takes" or "You couldn't pay me enough" unless you are really totally committed.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: kylieosu on March 13, 2010, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on March 12, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
I think there would be a price high enough to make you go.  No one cares enough about your opinion to pay the price.

Reminds me of the old joke about the old guy offering the young good looking girl a $1 million to "sleep" with him.  She says yes. Then he says how about $100.......

Never say "Whatever it takes" or "You couldn't pay me enough" unless you are really totally committed.

Hardy har har. Thanks for the advice, word police, but I think I'll continue to say and use whatever expressions or phrases I'd like.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Red Arrow on March 14, 2010, 12:09:17 PM
We're pretty loose about definitions here but it does get confusing when someone writes about their goat purring at a rabbit up a tree.  (Yes, I know that's an exaggeration.)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: patric on March 14, 2010, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 12, 2010, 04:16:36 PM
You say that as if spooning with Sarah would suck.

If it were a freezing-weather survival situation, sacrifices could be made.

Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: patric on March 14, 2010, 12:47:38 PM
Beck was likely enthusiastic to be in backwards Oklahoma, especially after this show:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-10-2010/sour-gropes

Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 14, 2010, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: patric on March 14, 2010, 12:47:38 PM
Beck was likely enthusiastic to be in backwards Oklahoma, especially after this show:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-10-2010/sour-gropes



Stewart usually hits it out of the park.

Poor Beck.  I could actually tolerate him on HLN; not sure what happened...oh, the Fox handlers got hold of him.  Now he's, what's the term?

Oh yeah.  BAT-SH!T-CRAZY
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: rwarn17588 on March 14, 2010, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 14, 2010, 12:58:25 PM
Stewart usually hits it out of the park.

Poor Beck.  I could actually tolerate him on HLN; not sure what happened...oh, the Fox handlers got hold of him.  Now he's, what's the term?

Oh yeah.  BAT-SH!T-CRAZY

Well, Beck can only blame himself for that fiasco. There were conservatives all over the place, begging Beck not to put Massa on his show. The more they digged, the more Massa looked like a lunatic.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 14, 2010, 12:58:25 PM
Stewart usually hits it out of the park.

Poor Beck.  I could actually tolerate him on HLN; not sure what happened...oh, the Fox handlers got hold of him.  Now he's, what's the term?

Oh yeah.  BAT-SH!T-CRAZY

Poor Beck?  I bet he's making more now than he did on HLN.  Even with the whole "Obama's a racist thing".  Faux would have let him go if it really was getting into their bottom line.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 15, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
Poor Beck?  I bet he's making more now than he did on HLN.  Even with the whole "Obama's a racist thing".  Faux would have let him go if it really was getting into their bottom line.

I know he is.  But he has the execs at Fox are at odds with each other.  Ailes says one thing, director of programming says another.  From what I've heard, sponsors are dropping like flies.

My whole point C, is that Beck is drinking the Fox KoolAid.  He was tolerable over on HLN.  They must give their on-air personalities a special 'Bat Sh!t Crazy' pill before they sign the employment contract.

It must be a little like the Matrix and blue pill/red pill.

;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 15, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
I know he is.  But he has the execs at Fox are at odds with each other.  Ailes says one thing, director of programming says another.  From what I've heard, sponsors are dropping like flies.

My whole point C, is that Beck is drinking the Fox KoolAid.  He was tolerable over on HLN.  They must give their on-air personalities a special 'Bat Sh!t Crazy' pill before they sign the employment contract.

It must be a little like the Matrix and blue pill/red pill.

;D

If anything HLN kept him reeled in.  I think Faux simply gave him the green light to be himself.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: rwarn17588 on March 15, 2010, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 15, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
I know he is.  But he has the execs at Fox are at odds with each other.  Ailes says one thing, director of programming says another.  From what I've heard, sponsors are dropping like flies.


It's not going to get any better, since Beck started ripping into churches.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/03/14/why-does-glenn-beck-hate-jesus/?xid=huffpo-direct#ixzz0iDq31Lz0
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 01:19:28 PM
Beck's a Mormon?  I had no idea...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: rwarn17588 on March 15, 2010, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 01:19:28 PM
Beck's a Mormon?  I had no idea...

Yep. I heard him say so on the show before he went off the deep end 18 months ago.

He didn't say it loudly, of course, because some folks think Mormons are freaks.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 01:35:05 PM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on March 15, 2010, 01:34:08 PM
Yep. I heard him say so on the show before he went off the deep end 18 months ago.

He didn't say it loudly, of course, because some folks think Mormons are freaks.

I question whether or not he's a "recovering" alcoholic. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: rwarn17588 on March 15, 2010, 01:41:57 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 01:35:05 PM
I question whether or not he's a "recovering" alcoholic. 

Yes, he is a little ... manic, isn't he?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on March 15, 2010, 01:41:57 PM
Yes, he is a little ... manic, isn't he?

He's probably got a spooker tucked in his sock or desk drawer.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: rwarn17588 on March 15, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
He's probably got a spooker tucked in his sock or desk drawer.

Or a vial or two.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 15, 2010, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on March 15, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
Or a vial or two.

The whole staged crying thing is what gets me.  I can't understand anyone doing that outside of an honest-to-goodness Hollywood production.

Cable news is diverting away from news and more into entertainment.  I'm trying to be a little more 'neutral' by listening to and reading NPR.  But even then the BSC crowd thinks NPR is liberal, since 'Public' is in their name.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 15, 2010, 01:57:08 PM
The whole staged crying thing is what gets me.  I can't understand anyone doing that outside of an honest-to-goodness Hollywood production.

Cable news is diverting away from news and more into entertainment.  I'm trying to be a little more 'neutral' by listening to and reading NPR.  But even then the BSC crowd thinks NPR is liberal, since 'Public' is in their name.

"Is" diverting away? That bus left the station about 15 years ago.  "Has" is more like it.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 15, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
"Is" diverting away? That bus left the station about 15 years ago.  "Has" is more like it.

15 years ago it wasn't this bad.  I had little reason to watch CNN (at the time pretty much the only cable outlet on) because my interest in politics really didn't take hold until my early thirties.

Fox News really set the bar for what I like to call 'propangandized media'.  They used to claim to be fair and balanced, and, remembering them in the beginning, they weren't too bad.  I remember it really starting to get incredibly annoying though after 9/11.  They figure they can cater to a niche audience that will watch them, especially if the right-wing blogosphere bloviates enough to attract viewers.

Hey, I don't fault them for seeking out viewers by this method.  Just quit calling yourself 'fair and balanced' when you're nothing but.

And in the beginning, I used to like listening to Olbermann, but he's become a bit preachy regarding healthcare for my tastes these days.

I like watching Jon Stewart, because for the most part, he gets it (at least to my generation, which really isn't too far removed from yours).

I've changed my sig line to reflect my yearly reintroduction to Queensryche's "Operation:Mindcrime" and wonder if these guys had clairvoyance in the late 80s.  Listen to the lyrics.  Could have fit back then, could fit now....
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Ed W on March 15, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
I catch the BBC World News on the radio sometimes on the way to work.  And Cox carries their television news at 9PM.  It's a slightly different perspective.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2010, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 15, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
15 years ago it wasn't this bad.  I had little reason to watch CNN (at the time pretty much the only cable outlet on) because my interest in politics really didn't take hold until my early thirties.

Fox News really set the bar for what I like to call 'propangandized media'.  They used to claim to be fair and balanced, and, remembering them in the beginning, they weren't too bad.  I remember it really starting to get incredibly annoying though after 9/11.  They figure they can cater to a niche audience that will watch them, especially if the right-wing blogosphere bloviates enough to attract viewers.

Hey, I don't fault them for seeking out viewers by this method.  Just quit calling yourself 'fair and balanced' when you're nothing but.

And in the beginning, I used to like listening to Olbermann, but he's become a bit preachy regarding healthcare for my tastes these days.

I like watching Jon Stewart, because for the most part, he gets it (at least to my generation, which really isn't too far removed from yours).

I've changed my sig line to reflect my yearly reintroduction to Queensryche's "Operation:Mindcrime" and wonder if these guys had clairvoyance in the late 80s.  Listen to the lyrics.  Could have fit back then, could fit now....

Fox's news actually is pretty balanced.  It's the political commentary shows which are not, just like MSNBC.  So long as people understand they are watching an entertainer/commentator and not a newscast when they watch Hannity, Olbermann, Matthews, or Beck.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 15, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
All news is bias.  Every reporter injects bias into every report.  There is no fair.  No balanced.

. . . except for that National Weather Service robotic reporter.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 15, 2010, 07:45:16 PM
You really need to get out more... listen/watch PBS and NPR.  There you really WILL get fair and balanced.

Trust me...I got a really good feelin' about this one...
Oh, wait, that's another universe.

Anyone know where I can get one of those giant sock monkeys on the car commercial?  Only not alive...

Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: shadows on March 21, 2010, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 08, 2010, 01:49:11 PM
OK, I had a bit of a migraine already this afternoon...you've gone and made it worse.  It's time to mark you as 'ignore'.  Or as the internet old timers remember, "PLONK!".

Being of one that fit's well in the categories of which includes those who do not have the mental capacity to comprehend space without perimeters. A universe of planets racing into a void,   Moving away in all direction from a point of inertia at the presumed speed of light,  Which could be the work of a master creator or a solution to the theories of Darwin, using time as the undetermined factor in a unproven equation.  Then also inject mass that had to prevail from unknown sources, before they could start the formation of the skies we see in the dark night.

It is well established that this generic machine that host us is very limited to being able to escape this globe we are confined in,  We have not beached the outer limitations of trillions of like worlds as we know them.

As we seek the solutions to the builders of the great pyramids of our modern times of some eight thousands years ago we can say they didn't happen but they are only a mirage left etched in the electrons of time. (Edison)

It may be time to type "PLONK" close and closet door after one.

       
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 21, 2010, 04:56:34 PM
Quote from: shadows on March 21, 2010, 04:44:46 PM
It is well established that this generic machine that host us is very limited to being able to escape this globe we are confined in, 

Machines must really hate you. Stay away from my copier.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: nathanm on March 21, 2010, 05:27:36 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 15, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
All news is bias.  Every reporter injects bias into every report.  There is no fair.  No balanced.
Yes, there are no facts in this world. Everything is opinion.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: JeffM on March 21, 2010, 05:39:01 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 21, 2010, 04:56:34 PM
Machines must really hate you. Stay away from my copier.

"I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do."  -- Hal 9000

(http://billsmovieemporium.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/2001_a_space_odyssey_hello_dave.jpg)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: shadows on March 23, 2010, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on March 21, 2010, 04:56:34 PM
Machines must really hate you. Stay away from my copier.

As noted there is some difficulty with your copier.  There could be an overlay on the screen notifying you it is time to recycle your cartage.  It has come from the major players in recycling that unless new technology is developed then the cost of recycling plastics could cost more than the original cost to produce them.  And the city of Tulsa is considering it be mandatory that the citizens recycle.  Course that is the rule of the city to increase the cost on its citizens.   Recycle to the land fill? 

Being we are no more than point of light in the many millennium of time such has not has not defined the difference between "if" and 'when" in the present.  There are many who are not standing on the street corners with long hair, in a white robe, wearing sandals crying the end is near. Nor were they on the streets of Pompeii but only instead promoting their orgies.

Some where in our fragile existence on a planet that has a molting core, that support floating contents, surrounded by the majority of surface waters, held in orbit by unknown unexplainable forces of a master nuclear reactor then we must injected the word "when".  There has recently been noted of the increased activity.  It is hard to believe the presumption of an election would bring this creation of a master creator to a end. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Townsend on March 23, 2010, 04:41:31 PM
Quote from: shadows on March 23, 2010, 04:37:59 PM

Being we are no more than point of light in the many millennium of time such has not has not defined the difference between "if" and 'when" in the present.  There are many who are not standing on the street corners with long hair, in a white robe, wearing sandals crying the end is near. Nor were they on the streets of Pompeii but only instead promoting their orgies.


I am happy to promote the orgies.  Hook a brother up.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 23, 2010, 04:45:14 PM
Quote from: shadows on March 23, 2010, 04:37:59 PM
As noted there is some difficulty with your copier.  There could be an overlay on the screen notifying you it is time to recycle your cartage.  It has come from the major players in recycling that unless new technology is developed then the cost of recycling plastics could cost more than the original cost to produce them.  And the city of Tulsa is considering it be mandatory that the citizens recycle.  Course that is the rule of the city to increase the cost on its citizens.   Recycle to the land fill? 

Being we are no more than point of light in the many millennium of time such has not has not defined the difference between "if" and 'when" in the present.  There are many who are not standing on the street corners with long hair, in a white robe, wearing sandals crying the end is near. Nor were they on the streets of Pompeii but only instead promoting their orgies.

Some where in our fragile existence on a planet that has a molting core, that support floating contents, surrounded by the majority of surface waters, held in orbit by unknown unexplainable forces of a master nuclear reactor then we must injected the word "when".  There has recently been noted of the increased activity.  It is hard to believe the presumption of an election would bring this creation of a master creator to a end. 


Results from my universal translator. . .

I LIKE CORN.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 23, 2010, 06:29:22 PM
Reading Shadows' posts is like a brain freeze without the pleasure of eating the ice cream...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: JeffM on March 23, 2010, 06:49:02 PM
sorry, but further responses to Shadows must be phrased in the form of haiku.  thx. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 23, 2010, 08:58:59 PM
who knows what lurks in
the hearts, the hearts, of all men
only shadows knows
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on March 24, 2010, 09:26:56 AM
Shadows is thinking
Brain cells swirl with confusion
Poetic vomit
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 24, 2010, 08:25:26 PM
Roses are red.
  Violets are blue.
I'm schizophrenic.
  ...and so am I.


I want to try some of what Shadows is doing.  Sounds like a blast!!

Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: shadows on March 25, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Townsend on March 23, 2010, 04:41:31 PM
I am happy to promote the orgies.  Hook a brother up.
It is interesting to note of the increasing number of CEO are of the female gender who have no intention to give up a career in the business world to return to the drudgery life stile of the pre war days.  Like the chronicles record the actions of the Black Spider, who suspends its orgies to encase her mate in the web to seek younger preys, you may have already missed your orgy.  
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on March 25, 2010, 10:56:21 PM
Quote from: shadows on March 25, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
It is interesting to note of the increasing number of CEO are of the female gender who have no intention to give up a career in the business world to return to the drudgery life stile of the pre war days.  Like the chronicles record the actions of the Black Spider, who suspends its orgies to encase her mate in the web to seek younger preys, you may have already missed your orgy.  


True state's rights zealot.
Drinking a cup full of tears.
Snowing canoes snore.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: fotd on March 26, 2010, 04:12:06 PM
Say goodbye to Mitt Romney's 2012 aspirations!




The DNC has posted a highlight reel of Mitt Romney endorsing an individual responsibility mandate to purchase health care insurance.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/26/850687/-Say-goodbye-to-Mitt-Romneys



GO SARAH!
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: shadows on April 05, 2010, 01:21:59 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 25, 2010, 10:56:21 PM
True state's rights zealot.
Drinking a cup full of tears.
Snowing canoes snore.

"There you go again letting junior play on the computer while I have to make us a living running this company."
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Hoss on April 05, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
Quote from: shadows on April 05, 2010, 01:21:59 PM
"There you go again letting junior play on the computer while I have to make us a living running this company."


It take you two weeks to fashion a response?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on April 05, 2010, 03:00:37 PM
It will take two weeks
Spinning in his office chair
Dizzy response comes
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Conan71 on April 05, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
Quote from: Hoss on April 05, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
It take you two weeks to fashion a response?

When canoes are crying, the news is always delayed.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on April 05, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on April 05, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
When canoes are crying, the news is always delayed.

That's the million dollar T-Shirt. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: JeffM on April 05, 2010, 05:54:48 PM
CEO orgies
Fiddling while Rome is ablaze
Missing a g-string
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: shadows on April 06, 2010, 02:29:44 PM
Quote from: Hoss on April 05, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
It take you two weeks to fashion a response?

No, responses are spontaneous but the two weeks was used trying to find even one reason why the present president will not serve a second term with the possibilities of even a third term. The person on unemployment cast one countable vote same as the $14 million dollar a year CEO is paying on his food also.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Gaspar on April 06, 2010, 02:54:23 PM
Quote from: shadows on April 06, 2010, 02:29:44 PM
No, responses are spontaneous but the two weeks was used trying to find even one reason why the present president will not serve a second term with the possibilities of even a third term. The person on unemployment cast one countable vote same as the $14 million dollar a year CEO is paying on his food also.


One countable vote
CEO is paying on his food
Refrigerator
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: Townsend on April 06, 2010, 02:56:08 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on April 06, 2010, 02:54:23 PM
One countable vote
CEO is paying on his food
Refrigerator

(titter)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: fotd on April 11, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
Tina Fey rocks!

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sarah-palin-network/1217966/

This is great.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin 2012 - the world is going to end anyway
Post by: nathanm on April 11, 2010, 03:54:52 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on April 06, 2010, 02:54:23 PM
Refrigerator
Refrigerator? I want one of those french door refrigerators. I hate side-by-sides, but that's what she-who-must-be-obeyed decided we must have.