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One of our two idiot Senators made big National news. Sen. Coburn Becomes a Farce!

These two Senators aren't doing any good helping Oklahoma retain intellectuals, our children, and future moral leaders. This story of fundamentalism and the hypocrisy of those that get elected because of their superior personal morality .....

Las Vegas Sun reports that Senator Ensign may have committed multiple financial felonies during an unstoppable adulterous affair, all the while professing his Evangelical piety while living with the secretive family and assisted by Senator Tom Coburn.

THE SENATOR'S SCANDAL:
Hampton portrays Ensign as relentless

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul/09/hampton-breaks-silence-ensign/


Coburn denies discussing restitution for Ensign's former mistress

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=338&articleid=20090709_338_0_WASHIN824428&archive=yes

Reports: Coburn urged payment

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090709_16_A8_WASHIN304385&archive=yes

"Coburn's office did not respond to a request from the Tulsa World for a comment."

LET'S GO TULSA WORLD...TIME FOR SOME OBJECTIVE JOURNALISM AND DISCOVERY REGARDING FUNDAMENTALIST REPUBLICAN HYPOCRISY.....LET'S SEE IF IT'S TRUE THAT YOUR NEWSPAPER IS IN DEEP DOO DOO!

Looks like Hillary is a member of this Christian cult. But hers is for political reasons.

FOTD got 4 long distance phone calls wondering what goes on with our Senators.

They're cultists....

And Coburn, an OBGYN, claims patient doctor privilege. What a sham....

Look into this 70 year old Christian cult....truly amazing sh!t...

MEET TOM COBURN....FOTD needs to read "THE FAMILY"... http://jeffsharlet.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#31838452


REALLY WEIRD! America's equivalence to Al Queda.

Sayyyyyy why no one mention of Tulsan Steve Largent's role in recent events?   Sayyyyyyy do you suppose they - or elements within that the Family aka 'the Fellowship' also put the squeeze on Sullivan? Part of a pusch to by a coalition of Dominionated-minded 'evangelicals' to 'out' more moderates and pragmatistic politicians?  While it is entirely possible that a few radical Dominionist type may be trying to seize control of the GOP once-and-for-all!  But the RINO's are not helpless pols to be slain by just anybody!  Did THEY framed the Good Doctor into a conspiracy to engage and/or encourage violation of some sort of campaign monies fraud?  He fought to retain his MD credentials - we may now know why!

The mechanism is juicy only if you are scared of a theocratic, single-party government.  But Maddow and the MSM are just piling on more anti-Christian, hysterical snob atheism in drag as moral crusaders.  Frankly this is old news but thanks for bringing this issue up.  Good for them.  However, that guy just spewed unsourced BS, anyway, who cares what HE says!  He sounded shrill and appeared wild-eyed  The Family is great, and the Fellowship is good!

Quote from: Know Nothing on July 11, 2009, 07:45:31 AM
No one mentions Tulsan Steve Largent's role in recent events?   Sayyyyyyy do you suppose they - or elements within that the Family aka 'the Fellowship' also put the squeeze on Sullivan? Part of a pusch to by a coalition of Dominionated-minded 'evangelicals' to 'out' more moderates and pragmatists politicians?  It is entirely possible that there are a few radical Dominionist type who may be trying to seize control of the GOP once-and-for-all!  But the RINO's are not helpless pols to be slain by just anybody!  Did THEY framed the Good Doctor into a conspiracy to engage and/or encourage violation of some sort of campaign monies fraud?  He fought to retain his MD credentials - we may now know why!

The mechanism is juicy only if you are scared of a theocratic, single-party government.  But Maddow and the MSM are just piling on more anti-Christian, hysterical snob atheism in drag as moral crusaders.  Frankly this is old news but thanks for bringing this issue up.  Good for them.  However, that guy just spewed unsourced BS, anyway, who cares what HE says!  He sounded shrill and appeared wild-eyed  The Family is great, and the Fellowship is good!

DO NOT WATCH THE RACHEL MADDOW 'REPORT' RE 'THE FAMILY' AKA ''THE FELLOWSHIP'                DO NOT WATCH THE RACHEL MADDOW 'REPORT' RE 'THE FAMILY' AKA ''THE FELLOWSHIP'         DO NOT WATCH THE RACHEL MADDOW 'REPORT' RE 'THE FAMILY' AKA ''THE FELLOWSHIP'         DO NOT WATCH THE RACHEL MADDOW 'REPORT' RE 'THE FAMILY' AKA ''THE FELLOWSHIP'         DO NOT WATCH THE RACHEL MADDOW 'REPORT' RE 'THE FAMILY' AKA ''THE FELLOWSHIP'                                 STAY TUNED FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES TO THIS BREAKING SITUATION There is NOTHING to learn about any kind of 'organization' manipulating religion for political dominance Actaulllu    These are NOT the droids you are looking for . . .'

You know something, this is not "hysterical snob atheism". Rather, it is a view of a lobby hiding behind a weird Christian cult, religiously incorporated. They are in bed with AIPAC for the moment at least. Until their savior arrives after Israels demise or so they would like to make believe.

Here's the litmus test KN: Is the earth older than 6000 years? The members and residents at the "C Street Family" home and spiritual warrior center forgive each other all sins, because they believe themselves supermen. They are the Leopold and Loebs of modern evangelical fanaticism, which absolves individuals who believe that they have been absolved by God from responsibility for their behavior.

Men of power who think that they are accountable to no one because God has annointed them to be almighty -- in rule and sin, these are political terrorists to democracy in our midst.

Please get a grip on what has a grip on our government. That being a bunch of know nothings. Nothing personal....

Quote from: FOTD on July 11, 2009, 09:02:06 AM
You know something, this is not "hysterical snob atheism". Rather, it is a view of a lobby hiding behind a weird Christian cult, religiously incorporated. They are in bed with AIPAC for the moment at least. Until their savior arrives after Israels demise or so they would like to make believe.

Here's the litmus test KN: Is the earth older than 6000 years? The members and residents at the "C Street Family" home and spiritual warrior center forgive each other all sins, because they believe themselves supermen. They are the Leopold and Loebs of modern evangelical fanaticism, which absolves individuals who believe that they have been absolved by God from responsibility for their behavior.

Men of power who think that they are accountable to no one because God has annointed them to be almighty -- in rule and sin, these are political terrorists to democracy in our midst.

Please get a grip on what has a grip on our government. That being a bunch of know nothings. Nothing personal....

I am sure yours a distinct minority viewpoint here, who believes that a group of religious zealots and 'believers' in whatever organization are working to instill some kind of theocratic government!  Astonishing!  LOL!  What do you think is going on, some weird shadow 'Christian' government?  Does this 'organization' operate internationally?  What are the radical goals????  YOU get the grip, it is a prayer meeting for crying out loud!

"You are free to practice any religion you choose in public so long as it's not Christianity" - Conanism

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Quote from: Conan71 on July 11, 2009, 11:31:35 AM
"You are free to practice any religion you choose in public so long as it's not Christianity" - Conanism

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Phew, for a minute there I thought that was a bunch of Marshalls....

Quote from: Know Nothing on July 11, 2009, 09:38:47 AM
I am sure yours a distinct minority viewpoint here, who believes that a group of religious zealots and 'believers' in whatever organization are working to instill some kind of theocratic government!  Astonishing!  LOL!  What do you think is going on, some weird shadow 'Christian' government?  Does this 'organization' operate internationally?  What are the radical goals????  YOU get the grip, it is a prayer meeting for crying out loud!

Their goals? It appears one of their goals is to watch each others backs in case they get caught in their hypocrisies such as in paying hush money to one of their concubines. The prayer meetings are veils while they manage to intentionally manipulate ideas that fit into that 6000 year old earth mentality. If it were just a " shadow Christian government" that might be tolerable. These are extremists tied together to network for power and votes using a "common" thread of entitled almighty power. Crazy?

Just ask yourself what Coburn has done for you in his terms as Senaturd. And, watch him squash the high speed rail between Tulsa and OKC. He has the family agenda but not the people's agenda.

You'd get the impression they must hate POTUS OBAMA. No unions and no programs to help poor people as Rachel says, "through unfettered capitalism." This "fellowship" instead would rely upon generous capitalists. Right. "Trickle down fundamentalism" and empowering third world dictators. The devil is very happy because these guys are actually playing into his hand.



These totalitarian idiots front for everyone from the oil barons to the banksters. They're front men and pawns in a much bigger movement to make this a cuntry one for the corporation, by the corporation.  Executing doctors and condemning nudity,and attacking rampant lesbianism (FOTD takes this personally) are not the people's issues. We hear nothing from this physician and "deacon" about the health care issue.


We'll hear more about "the fellowship." They're opening the door for stuff like this:    
Racist Extremists Infiltrating US Military
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/8777/

The "overwhelming majority of US servicemembers reject extremism and are dedicated to serving and protecting the highest ideals of our country," Dees continued. "[W]e owe it to our courageous men and women in uniform, and the American public, to remain vigilant to ensure that the ranks are as free of extremists as possible."

Quote from: Hoss on July 11, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Phew, for a minute there I thought that was a bunch of Marshalls....

That would have been a tragedy of unspeakable proportions

The typical opposition strategy of diverting the discussion from the real topic....

So, you could care less about "Coburn's family." Fine. Then just go away. You obviously can't defend this pathetic political prayer group of hypocrites and power crazy baldheads.

"Hate is your reward for our love,
Telling us of your God above.

We gonna chase those crazy -
Chase those crazy bunkheads -
Chase those crazy baldheads out of town!"
(B.Marley)

Quote from: FOTD on July 12, 2009, 12:09:53 PM

So, you could care less about "Coburn's family." Fine.

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Quote from: Conan71 on July 11, 2009, 11:31:35 AM
"You are free to practice any religion you choose in public so long as it's not Christianity" - Conanism

"You are free to practice any religion you choose in public so long as you leave it at the courthouse/statehouse/congressional door" - Nathanism

Quote from: Conan71 on July 11, 2009, 11:31:35 AM
"You are free to practice any religion you choose in public so long as it's not Christianity" - Conanism

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And good brown bottles too.  Green bottles would have only been a minor disaster.  (Unless you like skunky beer.)

Clear the air
Coburn and the Ensign affair

http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/article.aspx?subjectid=61&articleid=20090713_61_A11_Wetake522914

By World's Editorial Writers
Published: 7/13/2009  2:25 AM
Last Modified: 7/13/2009  4:00 AM

We take Sen. Tom Coburn at his word when he says he did not advise Sen. John Ensign to pay off his married mistress. It would have been completely out of character for him to do so.

But we do question his claim that certain conversations between him and the Nevada Republican are off limits due to his position as a physician and a church deacon.

Is Coburn Ensign's personal physician? Or does any chat Coburn has with someone constitute the doctor-patient privilege? And since when does a deacon in a church have privilege?

Ensign is up to his ears in a sex scandal. His mistress' husband, Doug Hampton, claims that Coburn and others encouraged Ensign to pay off the family. Coburn denies that and says that he only told Ensign to end the affair and go public with it.

In the meantime, Ensign's parents have paid the Hampton family $96,000 in what they claim is mere generosity and concern for the Hampton family.

This is a smarmy affair and we wish that Coburn had not become involved at all. The whole mess will wind up before the Senate Ethics Committee, if not spark a full-blown criminal investigation by the Justice Department.

When it does, Coburn ought to tell what he knows. We respect the doctor-patient relationship and the minister privilege, but this situation doesn't seem to clearly fall under those umbrellas.

Any refusal to answer questions will only cause more controversy. If Coburn really believes that there is privilege then Ensign ought to release him from it.

The truth needs to be told. And Sen. Coburn needs to clear the air.


Tulsa World: We know enough to know Doctor No is the Party of No. Your paper seems to be getting stranger and stranger. One day your editorials support non-profit local anarchy and on another day you seem acceptable to totalitarian ways of a bunch of powerful wing nuts. It's not what Coburn is doing and not saying but who he hangs out with....domestic terrorists...and your passive stance towards this "family".
Lousy journalism 101.  A convenient subsidized dorm tax free "church" haven for Coburn in exchange for below market rent.





Hard Questions need asking TulsaWhirlled....otherwise, you continue to become obsolete.

TW, piercing questions about oathes to secrecy by our Senator is a good start...you got a long way to go. You can't put these 7 government people ahead of your paper and us citizens. Expose all. Please.

part 2: Christian mafia and biblical capitalism...

"The Family" Bwaaahhhaahhhha!

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Little hot outside for that CoCo puff....

The "family" photo!

Rachel Maddow: GOP Sex Scandal Exposes Secretive Conservative Religious Group -- 'The Family'

http://www.alternet.org/politics/141278/rachel_maddow:_gop_sex_scandal_exposes_secretive_conservative_religious__group_--__'the_family'/

Sen. John Ensign's affair has brought unwanted attention on a powerful religious network in Washington.



This stuff just drips with what's wrong with a country moving away from what adverse religious founders intended.

Bet there's no minority representation in this "family".

Jesus plus nothing:
Undercover among America's secret theocrats
By Jeffrey Sharlet

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525

"Ivanwald, which sits at the end of Twenty-fourth Street North in Arlington, Virginia, is known only to its residents and to the members and friends of the organization that sponsors it, a group of believers who refer to themselves as "the Family." The Family is, in its own words, an "invisible" association, though its membership has always consisted mostly of public men. Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N.Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as "members," as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.). Regular prayer groups have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries. The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities."

"During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise. "We work with power where we can," the Family's leader, Doug Coe, says, "build new power where we can't."

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
—Matthew 10:36

Has there been any other media coverage of these revelations? I haven't seen or heard anything except on Maddow which makes me think it is too hot to handle for them. It could be constructed by critics as a Christian vs Jewish battle. Thats no win for them.

I for one am sick of seeing republicans and conservatives all over the (liberal biased?) media criticizing anything Obama does,  spouting their failed philosophies and pimping for their lowest quality players.

They lost didn't they?

Quote from: waterboy on July 15, 2009, 07:16:23 AM
Has there been any other media coverage of these revelations? I haven't seen or heard anything except on Maddow which makes me think it is too hot to handle for them. It could be constructed by critics as a Christian vs Jewish battle. Thats no win for them.

I for one am sick of seeing republicans and conservatives all over the (liberal biased?) media criticizing anything Obama does,  spouting their failed philosophies and pimping for their lowest quality players.

They lost didn't they?

Yeah repubs, sthu. It's not as if dems/libs were mouthing off at Bush when he was president.

Quote from: guido911 on July 15, 2009, 07:50:44 AM
Yeah repubs, sthu. It's not as if dems/libs were mouthing off at Bush when he was president.

Didn't do it to the same extent though when he was just 6 months into his presidency, if I recall.  Your argument=FAIL.

Quote from: waterboy on July 15, 2009, 07:16:23 AM
Has there been any other media coverage of these revelations? I haven't seen or heard anything except on Maddow which makes me think it is too hot to handle for them.

No, it sounds like a tinfoil hat muck-raking conspiracy by Maddow.  The MSM generally avoids moonbat stuff.

Quote from: Conan71 on July 15, 2009, 08:59:27 AM
No, it sounds like a tinfoil hat muck-raking conspiracy by Maddow.  The MSM generally avoids moonbat stuff.

Yeah. The Atlantic is like wayyyyyyy out there. http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/clinton-fellowship.php (http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/clinton-fellowship.php)

Harpers? Weeeiiiiird. http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525 (http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525)

LA Times? GIVE ME A BREAK. Space aliens! http://www.toobeautiful.org/lat_020927.html (http://www.toobeautiful.org/lat_020927.html)

Wooooo oooooooo! Scooby Doo theme please!

The Third Rachel Maddow Report (July 15th) on the C Street "Mafia" Cabal of Fundamentalist Senators and Congressmen who subscribe to an Ubermensch Theory that they are chosen by God to be leaders and are only responsible to each other, because the masses are weak and not divinely selected.

Holy Moley! http://hoffmania.com/2009/07/c-street-no-longer-a-secret.html

Rachel just bent Steve Largent over! Accusing Largent of double standards, nothing new there, she cited this ( http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090714_16_A1_WASHIN134624&archive=yes )  interview and furthered the painting of a picture of a political cult losing their grip on power. "Asked whether he thought Ensign and Sanford should resign, Largent described that concern as secondary. " It was not secondary under Bill Clinton when Largent represented us as he asked for the then President's resignation.

This story has become bigger than Ensign's and Stanford's indiscretion. The devil seems to be at work. Hallelujah!

Oklahoma politicians are the joke of our country. Are you proud? Do you know those that think this helps to recruit businesses to our city? Are you their sheep?

Coburn covers again...gotta hand it to these angry reps. They do know how to cya.


Coburn: Sorry about the protesters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20090715/pl_ynews/ynews_pl697

Wed Jul 15, 11:27 am ET

It's rare to see a senator apologize for the actions of people on their own side. But we saw Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., a strong anti-abortion advocate do just that this morning.
An obstetrician and a conservative, Coburn grilled Sonia Sotomayor on abortion law. But before he got into that, he first issued an apology to her and rebuked the anti-abortion protesters that interrupted the first two days of the confirmation hearing.

"I apologize to you for the outburst that occurred in this committee. Anybody who values life like I do and is pro-life recognizes that the way you change minds is not yell at people, is you love them," Coburn said. "And you care about their concerns and you create a level of understanding, not condemnation. And so, for that, I apologize."

Five anti-abortion protesters interrupted the hearing shouting slogans in the first two days.

-Jesse J. Holland, AP reporter, Supreme Court

Quote from: FOTD on July 16, 2009, 12:05:16 PM
Coburn covers again...gotta hand it to these angry reps. They do know how to cya.


Coburn: Sorry about the protesters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20090715/pl_ynews/ynews_pl697

Wed Jul 15, 11:27 am ET

It's rare to see a senator apologize for the actions of people on their own side. But we saw Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., a strong anti-abortion advocate do just that this morning.
An obstetrician and a conservative, Coburn grilled Sonia Sotomayor on abortion law. But before he got into that, he first issued an apology to her and rebuked the anti-abortion protesters that interrupted the first two days of the confirmation hearing.

"I apologize to you for the outburst that occurred in this committee. Anybody who values life like I do and is pro-life recognizes that the way you change minds is not yell at people, is you love them," Coburn said. "And you care about their concerns and you create a level of understanding, not condemnation. And so, for that, I apologize."

Five anti-abortion protesters interrupted the hearing shouting slogans in the first two days.

-Jesse J. Holland, AP reporter, Supreme Court

Good for the protesters!  Hey, Dr. Tom, enough with your duplicity and mealy-mouthed 'apologies.'  You are a criminal who aided a filthy adulterer in his sinful ways and now are using the flimsiest of excuses to try and weasel your way out.  I hope you go to jail, sir.  To jail with you!  If Dr. Tom were around when Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ went ballistic at the money changers, ol' Dr. Tom would be groveling after the merchants, looking for loose change.  To jail!!

I wish Jesus would have explained more clearly when you should turn the other cheek and act kindly and when you should be hateful and vindictive.   From what I remember in that book it was about 30 years of kindness and about 10 minutes of vindictive behavior.   Oh well, just details.

This has little to  do with Jesus and plenty to do with deceiving voters into believing their candidate is superior because of his family and faith. Tom Coburn proved himself to be a racist or an idiot this week....perhaps both.
He showed poor taste in the Sotomayor hearings. He's pathetic.


So many Republican hypocrites, so little time.

And your buddy Frankensenator sure made himself look all academic and Senatorial by sticking a finger in the eye of a serious hearing by quizzing a SCOTUS appointee about Perry bucking Mason.

Quote from: Conan71 on July 17, 2009, 10:56:32 PM
And your buddy Frankensenator sure made himself look all academic and Senatorial by sticking a finger in the eye of a serious hearing by quizzing a SCOTUS appointee about Perry frakking Mason.

Another whacko diversion from the real story here.

Besides, Franken was not the Senator that brought the Mason subject up. He was being funny in an honest manner.

FYI DS

OH MY!

Sex on C Street: GOP Rep Slept With Mistress in Christianist Enclave


http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/07/17/sex-on-c-street-pickering-slept-with-mistress-in-house/

The latest bombshell about the congressional Christianists' residence and meeting house on Washington's C Street comes in the form of a lawsuit in which the soon-to-be ex-wife of former Rep. Chip Pickering (R-Miss.) is suing his alleged longtime mistress, Elizabeth Creekmore Byrd, for alienation of affection.

Rep. Pickering bunked at the C Street house when he served in Congress and Leisha Pickering alleges that Chip and Elizabeth were intimate in the C Street house — which, by the way, is listed in tax records as a church.

If you are keeping score, Pickering the third philandering Christian extremist politician connected with the C Street house to be outed as an adulterer in the last few weeks. The others are Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) and Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.). Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who is also a C Street resident, has also been mentioned in the scandals. It was allegedly he who counseled Ensign to arrange payments to the family of Ensign's former mistress.

These Christians better hope that it's all bullsh!t, you know, the Heaven and Hell thing, smiting sinners and stuff, 'cause they got some issues.

Quote from: FOTD on July 17, 2009, 07:50:47 PM
This has little to  do with Jesus and plenty to do with deceiving voters into believing their candidate is superior because of his family and faith. Tom Coburn proved himself to be a racist or an idiot this week....perhaps both.
He showed poor taste in the Sotomayor hearings. He's pathetic.


So many Republican hypocrites, so little time.

I think he was pathetic but for an entirely different reason! He should have heaped faint praise on her record on the bench and been the lion on the Judicial Committee he was supposed to be.  He should have told her straight up that he trusts her judgment as far as he can throw her, and that there was no way come hell or high water he would vote for her.  That he would sooner have a tattoo of Margaret Sanger on his buttocks than see her on the SCOTUS for the rest of her life.

Quote from: FOTD on July 18, 2009, 12:29:21 AM
Another whacko diversion from the real story here.

Besides, Franken was not the Senator that brought the Mason subject up. He was being funny in an honest manner.

FYI DS

OH MY!

Sex on C Street: GOP Rep Slept With Mistress in Christianist Enclave


http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/07/17/sex-on-c-street-pickering-slept-with-mistress-in-house/

The latest bombshell about the congressional Christianists' residence and meeting house on Washington's C Street comes in the form of a lawsuit in which the soon-to-be ex-wife of former Rep. Chip Pickering (R-Miss.) is suing his alleged longtime mistress, Elizabeth Creekmore Byrd, for alienation of affection.

Rep. Pickering bunked at the C Street house when he served in Congress and Leisha Pickering alleges that Chip and Elizabeth were intimate in the C Street house — which, by the way, is listed in tax records as a church.

If you are keeping score, Pickering the third philandering Christian extremist politician connected with the C Street house to be outed as an adulterer in the last few weeks. The others are Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) and Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.). Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who is also a C Street resident, has also been mentioned in the scandals. It was allegedly he who counseled Ensign to arrange payments to the family of Ensign's former mistress.

These Christians better hope that it's all bullsh!t, you know, the Heaven and Hell thing, smiting sinners and stuff, 'cause they got some issues.

So Coburn is essentially a pimp and the 'C' house is a den of vipers and adulterers! They have turned the church into a whorehouse! CESSPOOL! NOW TO JAIL!  But hey you Christians, now you be the nice sheep and do not raise a bleet 'cuz the Lord wants you to be pushovers for bullies and tyrants!  Shhhhhhh!  Our Blessed Lord wants you to be pansies walking around on cotton candy clouds with angels flittering in your eyes at all times!  'Touch not my annointed' and all, right?  WAKE UP!  GET FIRED UP! DO NOT BE BULLIED INTO SUBMISSION BY COWARDS AND SCOFFERS!  FIGHT! FIGHT!

No. It's to hell....

Quote from: FOTD on July 18, 2009, 07:46:08 AM
No. It's to hell....

Ha.  That is certainly above my paygrade.

Zak Womped em....

More trying times for Coburn's cult....



The low-key author, Jeff Sharlet, of "The Family:The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power" is a credible chronicler of this cabal that is like a dagger in democracy.  He writes: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/07/21/c_street/

"Family leaders consider their political network to be Christ's avant garde, an elite that transcends not just conventional morality but also earthly laws regulating lobbying. In the Family's early days, they debated registering as "a lobby for God's Kingdom." Instead, founder Abraham Vereide decided that the group could be more effective by working personally with politicians. "The more invisible you can make your organization," Vereide's successor, current leader Doug Coe preaches, "the more influence you can have." That's true -- which is why we have laws requiring lobbyists to identify themselves as such.

But David Coe, Doug Coe's son and heir apparent, calls himself simply a friend to men such as John Ensign, whom he guided through the coverup of his affair. I met the younger Coe when I lived for several weeks as a member of the Family. He's a surprising source of counsel, spiritual or otherwise. Attempting to explain what it means to be chosen for leadership like King David was -- or Mark Sanford, according to his own estimate -- he asked a young man who'd put himself, body and soul, under the Family's authority, "Let's say I hear you raped three little girls. What would I think of you?" The man guessed that Coe would probably think that he was a monster. "No," answered Coe, "I wouldn't." Why? Because, as a member of the Family, he's among what Family leaders refer to as the "new chosen." If you're chosen, the normal rules don't apply. "

Yes, you read that right, the son of Doug Coe, the "spiritual leader" of the Family and his heir apparent, would consider a Family member raping a child a test of the member's choseness and to be resolved inside of the fellowship, without reporting it to the law authorities, it appears.

This is how dangerous they are. They apparently believe even child rape is something that God wants them to keep secret amongst themselves!


Non of you wingnuts from Dumbf@#kistan care to comment on Coburn's cult?

Rachel is starting to sound like Art Bell.  Nothing to comment on with this story other that she's rapidly approaching wingnut status.  A US Senator and his cult.  That's rich.  What's next?  UFO's?

Quote from: Conan71 on July 23, 2009, 03:40:09 PM
Rachel is starting to sound like Art Bell.  Nothing to comment on with this story other that she's rapidly approaching wingnut status.  A US Senator and his cult.  That's rich.  What's next?  UFO's?

So, you don't think she's on to something big here between politics and religion, the law and the lawless, the moral and immoral, the righteous and the sinner? You have no problem with elected officials bypassing the tax code? You think your Senator's religious beliefs come before the nation and its law? You believe in using a religious cult to hide the truth and to manipulate legislation?

Why do your posts sound like Pinocchio complaining about liars?

The founding fathers would think you are a red coat imbecile.

Quote from: FOTD on July 23, 2009, 04:23:19 PM
So, you don't think she's on to something big here between politics and religion, the law and the lawless, the moral and immoral, the righteous and the sinner? You have no problem with elected officials bypassing the tax code? You think your Senator's religious beliefs come before the nation and its law? You believe in using a religious cult to hide the truth and to manipulate legislation?

Why do your posts sound like Pinocchio complaining about liars?

The founding fathers would think you are a red coat imbecile.

You sound logical up to this point:

You believe in using a religious cult to hide the truth and to manipulate legislation?

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Listen to Art Bell much?

Quote from: Conan71 on July 23, 2009, 04:35:22 PM
You sound logical up to this point:

You believe in using a religious cult to hide the truth and to manipulate legislation?

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Listen to Art Bell much?

You prefer a theocracy not our democracy? (that is rhetorical) You support a secret society of religious fanaticism participating in our legislature while hiding behind an elitist tax evasion frat house?

Here's something for your packet of kool aid.

The saga continues to unfold to our North in Oz.

http://www.everydaycitizen.com/2009/07/wichita_cbs_reports_c_street_c.html

OMD! You will just cringe watching Maddow (tea bagging queen?) disect Inhofe and Coburn for using tax payer subsidies and tax deductions for their (or Jeebus') own good glory. Inhofe looks like more of a doofus than ever...both he and Coburn have Coe's hand up their a$$.

Evidence why Oklahoma is the nation's whipping boy. Nobody intelligent wants to have to move here.

Will post the you tube play but here is a link....look for the pic of Senaturd Malarkey and hit his picture to see this alarming story!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/32073078#32195442

No UFO's here people.  Here is the author of 'The Family,' who actually spent a lot of time - what, a year - researching the issue http://jeffsharlet.com/ (http://jeffsharlet.com/).  He heard - in the first person - the leader of the group praising Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao.  We should not tolerate any of our elected representatives from belonging to this group.

These are creepy people Inhofe is bunking with. I would recommend watching the entire video if possible. Interesting that he mentioned he didn't visit foreign countries as a Christian, but as a follower of Jesus. Nice faceslap to Christians. I wonder how all those supporters of his feel about that since they assert we are a Christian nation based on Christian fundamentals?

I would have preferred that he visited them as a representative of our country and the many faiths that make up our democracy, especially since we paid for the trip.

Very damaging. His letters on behalf of citizens of Oklahoma will get nowhere. He's worse than a lame duck....more like an ignored f#$k.


The country watches with amusement....even the Tulsa World questions this man and sees his lack of Statesmanship. http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/article.aspx?subjectid=61&articleid=20090729_61_A16_Conspi113177

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/8/7/164840/4673

"C Street" and the Military

"Appearing in the full video of Inhofe is a man named Mark Powers, an Assemblies of God missionary hired by Inhofe to be on his staff as his part-time African advisor, while continuing to work for his church. Powers has regularly accompanied Inhofe on his trips to Africa, as have Inhofe's military liaisons, which brings us to a video I found when I was doing a bit of checking into the military personnel who have traveled with Family members."


"As we've been discovering, the web of individuals and organizations connecting the Family and the military, which includes many that I haven't even mentioned here, is far more extensive than we initially realized, and the joint investigation being undertaken by Jeff Sharlet and MRFF is far from over."

MSNBC's Maddow Show Propels Growing Scandal Over Washington's "Christian Mafia"
By Bruce Wilson

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/8/18/111753/325/Front_Page/MSNBC_s_Maddow_Show_Propels_Growing_Scandal_Over_Washington_s_quot_Christian_Mafia_quot_

" This story is certain to continue to generate new revelations on the influence that The Family's elitist, theocratically oriented members have managed to garner both within the Washington DC power establishment but also worldwide. As Family member David Kuo, author of Tempting Faith, has stated, "...the Family's reach into governments around the world is impossible to overstate or even grasp."



  This gang should probably be the subject of a RICO investigation. And with their deep reach into other nations, they might be worth investigation by the State Department and FBI.  Politicians, like Hilary and others, who have attended "prayer breakfast" and other Family events because it seemed like a requirement, will now back off. Let's put the hot, heavy spotlight on them. Sunlight kills germs and repels vampires. The last time religion ruled the world it was called the Dark Ages.

Rachel rocks...no wonder, she works outside of mainstream media....



"Meet The Press" Draws Most Viewers Since April On Maddow's Debut Appearance
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/20/meet-the-press-draws-most_n_264612.html

Our corrupt Senaturd Coburn:


Paper says Coburn was intermediary for Ensign

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=13&articleid=20091002_13_A4_WASHIN727052






They called a grand jury for Letterman....what's up with this?

"None whatsoever,'' Coburn said in July when asked whether he had discussed some kind of payment to the Hamptons. "I categorically deny that.''

Coburn is a liar and skirted the law.

Why doesn't the Tulsa World name the source used in the Times story?  Slip-shod journalism. 

And what's the relationship with Letterman's extortion case?  None, dude, none.

Quote from: Conan71 on October 02, 2009, 12:01:28 PM
Why doesn't the Tulsa World name the source used in the Times story?  Slip-shod journalism. 

And what's the relationship with Letterman's extortion case?  None, dude, none.

Dood, Sure there is. Immediately, Letterman went to the authorities. Not trustworthy Tom. Coburn lied to the public by not telling us what went on behind the scene. And Coburn too should have told his associates to go to the Feds with what was going on. Bad judgement since the day he was elected. Coburn participated in a scheme to extort money.

Its would serve the public well to vote Inhofe out next time around.

He's a career politician and we shouldn't allow any more of this. I have no problem with his stated beliefs, but his ties to this organization are scary.

This was before he made us all the laughingstock of the Nation with his Global Warming comments.

Its time for someone new. Maybe Brad Henry can run against him after he leaves office... I don't know. But something needs to be done to send Inhofe into retirement.

Republican Senate Sex Scandals Point Back to Secretive Conservative Christian "Family"
By Bill Berkowitz, Religion Dispatches. Posted October 12, 2009.

http://www.alternet.org/politics/143151/republican_senate_sex_scandals_point_back_to_secretive_conservative_christian_%22family%22


"What is C Street currently up to? How do they connect with people's day-to-day concerns, like health care, the economic crisis, Afghanistan and other issues, and how do they affect policy?

The Family would say that it doesn't do policy, and in the strictest sense, that's correct. For years, the confidential memos the Family prepared for members of Congress involved with the group emphasized that the "prayer cells" were not to take action as prayer cells. Rather, boilerplate at the top of every memo read, action should grow out of the relationships formed there. Which is to say, the Family provides a "worldview," fundamentalism re-tooled for the needs of power, and the relationships. What you do next is up to you. That said, the Family does not connect with "people's day-to-day concerns"; they don't care much about the public. But in terms of worldview and action and relationships: "biblical capitalism," laissez-faire, guides the general view of health care (see, for instance, the work of Senator Chuck Grassley and Senator Mike Enzi, two Family men involved in scuttling health care) and the economic crisis (three of the four senators who've voted against all five appropriations bills actually live at C Street: DeMint, Coburn, and Ensign). Afghanistan is a trickier issue. In general, the Family has always fallen on the side of hawkishness and expansionism; but I think some of the wise men of the group see the practical folly of Afghanistan. It's hard to miss.

Will The Family be able to rehabilitate its image? What will it take? Will members continue to feel safe there?

It's taken a hit. That became evident to me this summer as a number of congressmen did every thing they could to distance themselves from the Family. This was especially true of conservative Democrats. Rep. Bart Stupak, who's lived at C Street for seven years, enjoying maid service provided by Christian college girls, counseling younger Family members, and getting discounted rent, now tells the Michigan press that he had no idea where he was; despite boasting to the LA Times in 2002 that the activities of C Street were secret. Rep. Heath Shuler, who at the beginning of the summer seemed to want the word out that he lived in this fundamentalist frat house, refused to confirm or deny his residence there by the end of the summer. My favorite was Senator Mark Pryor. When I interviewed him two years ago, he boasted of his involvement with "the prayer breakfast folks." This summer, his staff told Arkansas press that I'd never spoken to him. When I offered to share the transcript, they backpedaled, simply asking me to stop connecting Pryor with the Family, which he no longer wants anything to do with.

But the Family will survive. It's been around for 70 years. And it has plenty of defenders. Senator Jim Inhofe wants to boast of his involvement. Senator Lindsey Graham rushed to its defense. Rep. Randy Forbes, leader of the congressional prayer caucus, is proud of his association. Rep. Frank Wolf and former Rep. Tony Hall took to the pages of Christianity Today to publish such a disingenuous defense that even USA Today scoffed. But that didn't shake them.

It's taken a hit from its own members, but it's not down and out."

FOTD, the National Enquirer of the TulsaNow Forum

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That makes CoCo the TNF Comic Book

Quote from: FOTD on October 14, 2009, 04:34:29 PM
That makes CoCo the TNF Comic Book

You know me, anything for a laugh, brother. Although no one is more adept than you about posting funny crack-pot smile

Quote from: Conan71 on October 14, 2009, 08:09:13 PM
You know me, anything for a laugh, brother. Although no one is more adept than you about posting funny crack-pot smile

That's FOTD's best type contribution.  I disagree with almost everything he posts but a lot of it is funny.

Wow....Watts, Largent....Oklahoma rocks!!!!



C Street Tied To Proposed Uganda Law: Death Penalty for Gays

http://www.wikio.com/video/2157187

The Secret Political Reach Of 'The Family'

http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=120746516

" But Senator Tom Coburn, who until now had a real reputation for candor and integrity, regardless of what you thought of his political views, has been saying one thing and then another. "

" we discovered that Senator Ensign, for instance, who had claimed that his residence at C Street House was just a purely a personal affair, that there's no political aspect of it, was actually traveling overseas on what he describes on his forms as policy trips on the dime of The Family - as is his housemate, Senator Tom Coburn, also traveling overseas." Coburn's worth tens of millions mind you...


" Senator Coburn a little more candid about what he's doing, he described going to Lebanon - this country torn by religious war for years - and attempting to set up Christian prayer cells in the Lebanese government. Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma was the most blunt about this. Speaking in an interview with a religious right organization, he said he has taken about 20 missionary trips around the world: Africa, Middle East, Eastern Europe. He doesn't actually travel on The Family's dime. He travels on your dime. He uses money from the Senate Armed Forces Committee - travels over to these countries, and especially Uganda, which he says he's adopted. Uganda has a very special role for him. And he says what he's there to do is to, quote, promote the political philosophy of Jesus as taught to him by Doug Coe. It's about as candid as can be."

" It's - I mean when you take your personal religious convictions or political convictions, even, and claim to represent the United States, but, in fact, are representing an organization like The Family as Senator Coburn was in Lebanon, as Senator Ensign has in Jordan and Israel, as Senator Inhofe has in Uganda, you are steering foreign policy away from democratic accountability."

" And in particular, Joe Pitts has been in the news because of the Stupak-Pitts Amendment, was one of the guys who really helped to bring abortion to the forefront to the group, starting in the late '70s, and that's become a concern of a lot of members. And, as you expand outwards over the last couple decades, and you look at the concerns of politicians like Senator Sam Brownback, Senator Jim Inhofe, Senator Tom Coburn, all these guys who are very involved members -you see homosexuality, you see all the culture-war issues taking a place alongside biblical capitalism and this foreign affairs expansionism, and, in fact, merging in The Family's view into one sort of united world view."

This story of religious run a mucks gets juicier and juicier by the week.....People, is this what you want for your country never mind your state?

The Tulsa World seems to be faced with writers block covering up this story or reprinting the facts.

It's like a pathological compulsion towards mental emesis, checking to see what new and interesting forms are taken by half-digested refuse.

It's a one stop shopping destination as reference for my previous complaint of paranoia, hate-fueled/filled commentary, etc. etc.  Classic.

The political subforums here are so polluted by this unaccountable crap it's barely worth navigating anymore.

Quote from: buckeye on November 30, 2009, 03:53:44 PM
It's like a pathological compulsion towards mental emesis, checking to see what new and interesting forms are taken by half-digested refuse.

It's a one stop shopping destination as reference for my previous complaint of paranoia, hate-fueled/filled commentary, etc. etc.  Classic.

The political subforums here are so polluted by this unaccountable crap it's barely worth navigating anymore.

Nice summary...

Quote from: Conan71 on November 30, 2009, 04:27:30 PM
Nice summary...

CoCo, you must quit being so sarcastic.

Still more but our local rag is turning their deaf ear....as Inhoffe always gets in to see the kings...blech.



Cult of Conservative Christian GOPers Backs Death Penalty for Gays With HIV
http://www.alternet.org/story/144240/cult_of_conservative_christian_gopers_backs_death_penalty_for_gays_with_hiv__

"It's not abnormal for foreign heads of state, like Museveni, to have ties to American politicos. But he's deeply routed in a secretive organization that promotes hatred under the guise of loving Jesus. And the very people — America's elected officials who believe in human rights — we would expect to pressure Uganda's lawmakers not to make such a bill law are turning out to be its biggest supporters."

Where are the right wingers saluting Rik Warren and the other Christian mobsters? Obama would never invite anyone with such monstrous views on homosexuality to campaign for him, or to speak at his inauguration...uh...never mind.

Sentence of three years in prison for knowing someone is gay but not reporting it....

In addition to formulating punishment, there will be pray-the-gay-away programs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/08/richard-cohen-rachel-maddow_n_385057.html

This is a priority for our Senator. Incredibly shameful. Doctor No is a schmoe but Inhofe is a jack off.

Maddow just explained the why, how, and who on this issue. Those zealots from C STREET taking their American culture war world wide!

C STREET! They are instrumental in this whole hateful scheme...a good Christian lot.... Inhofe has been the key player initiating this bizarre alliance. Inhofe started this and now he refuses to stop it...that's a bigot. Actually, it's worse. It may border on mass murder.

Not one C Streeter has spoken out against this international yet American driven hate crime.

Watch, Pastor Rick Warren will get caught grinding his organ into a C Streeter....
Why has Warren, a fellow not shy about commenting on all sorts of issues, fallen silent along with his flock?

Such hypocrites.

Quote from: FOTD on December 09, 2009, 08:28:15 PM
Sentence of three years in prison for knowing someone is gay but not reporting it....

In addition to formulating punishment, there will be pray-the-gay-away programs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/08/richard-cohen-rachel-maddow_n_385057.html

This is a priority for our Senator. Incredibly shameful. Doctor No is a schmoe but Inhofe is a jack off.

Maddow just explained the why, how, and who on this issue. Those zealots from C STREET taking their American culture war world wide!

C STREET! They are instrumental in this whole hateful scheme...a good Christian lot.... Inhofe has been the key player initiating this bizarre alliance. Inhofe started this and now he refuses to stop it...that's a bigot. Actually, it's worse. It may border on mass murder.

Not one C Streeter has spoken out against this international yet American driven hate crime.

Watch, Pastor Rick Warren will get caught grinding his organ into a C Streeter....
Why has Warren, a fellow not shy about commenting on all sorts of issues, fallen silent along with his flock?

Such hypocrites.

Still way out there smile, but I had to compliment you for your colorful word play.  Stellar job.  "...grinding his organ into a C Streeter..." Bravo!

Down goes Inhofe! Down goes Inhofe! Him and his "jesus thing"....

Maddow: Senator Inhofe may have been present when Ugandan 'kill the gays' bill introduced
http://rawstory.com/2009/12/maddow-show-senator-inhofe-present-ugandan-kill-gays-bill-introduced/

Inhofe Joins Bipartisan Effort to Stop the LRA
http://inhofe.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=09495450-802a-23ad-49e0-672687421142&IsPrint=true


SHOCK: Uganda Dropping Death Penalty + Life Sentences For Gays
http://www.queerty.com/shock-uganda-dropping-death-penalty-life-sentences-for-gays-20091210/

Where are our state and local media on this story....hear no evil, see no evil?

He's such a hypocrite and a false leader that lame dog Inhofe.