I know the story is two days old, but I saw this interview with Miss Cali on Cavuto's show. Beauty with brains (although I am not against gay marriage). No bailouts/no welfare +1
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=4505549&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749
A person can be blessed with beauty and intelligence but that does not always make them right.
That Perez guy just didnt help himself or his cause with that disghusting language and behavior. Quite the contrary. And, though I may disagree with some of what she said, I very much respect Miss Cali's responses and opinions.
If only one answer is acceptable (according to the Miss. California people), then why do they ask the questions? If there is going to be a questioning session, score based on how the answer was thought out, put together and presented, not simply on the spoken word of the answer.
I'll shamefully admit I visit Perez's website regularly and enjoy his humor, but I think he, and the Miss America people hurt themselves with this. That type of question probably had no place in a contest like this (not that I even care).
Is anyone surprised? Perez is an attention whore and will do anything to get his name out there.
You know when I first found out about his web site and took a look at it, I swear I thought it was written and presented by a Hollywood drag queen. All the pink and the strong FlaMo language. So when I saw him on the tube the other night I was kinda shocked that he looked fairly normal.
I do not watch Miss this or Mrs that contest but just happened to stop there on the final five. Miss Kentucky should have won but having said that, being that she is from California I also was shocked that she said what she said but she did it very nicely and with class and not offensive.
So he learned if your gay(not that there's anything wrong with that)
dont ask a hetro a loaded question if you dont want your female feelings hurt. Way to go girl and everyone knows she should have beat Miss North Carolina.
The Palin-izing and JTP-ing of Carrie Prejean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOSb1eY5Iik&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgatewaypundit.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F05%2Fhateful-leftist-gloria-feldt-laura.html&feature=player_embedded
If she's dumb enough to say that we live in a land where you can "choose same sex marriage or opposite marriage" when her whole point was that gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry, she deserves every bit of ridicule she gets.
People shouldn't be able to pretend it's opposite day and not be called on it.
Quote from: nathanm on May 02, 2009, 03:55:19 PM
If she's dumb enough to say that we live in a land where you can "choose same sex marriage or opposite marriage" when her whole point was that gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry, she deserves every bit of ridicule she gets.
People shouldn't be able to pretend it's opposite day and not be called on it.
She was answering a question in front of a live audience and millions of people. I guess she simply does not have your oratory or quick thinking skill. Oh, and when Obama was dumb enough to say that he visited 57 states or that 10,000 people were killed in a Kansas tornado and I called him on it, I got attacked. Where were you to defend me and those that went after Obama for his buffoonery? crickets.
I think it would have gone better for her if she had used a teleprompter. ;D
Quote from: guido911 on May 02, 2009, 04:56:25 PM
She was answering a question in front of a live audience and millions of people. I guess she simply does not have your oratory or quick thinking skill. Oh, and when Obama was dumb enough to say that he visited 57 states or that 10,000 people were killed in a Kansas tornado and I called him on it, I got attacked. Where were you to defend me and those that went after Obama for his buffoonery? crickets.
One is logical stupidity, the other is just plain misspeaking. You try to generalize that to Obama being an idiot, and people rightfully attack you for that. Many Bush-isms were things Bush shouldn't really have been ridiculed for. Some of them were more like the logical stupidity of Miss California.
I think her problem was that the stock answers in Miss America always have something to do with how America is great and free and so on and so forth. Obviously, juxtaposing that with the opinion that gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry leads to some justifiable ridicule. Holding that opinion is wrong, IMO, but people are free to do so, however, trying to say that people are free to do what they desire when they are not is just dumb.
Yes- I support her 100%. I believe we need a federal const. admentment banning same sex marriage to end this circus once and for all. We can't have a hodge-podge of marriage laws with 50 states. Marriage should only be with a man & and Lady.. Miss. California is not only hot & cute, she rockz too! :D
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 03, 2009, 01:38:11 PM
Yes- I support her 100%. I believe we need a federal const. admentment banning same sex marriage to end this circus once and for all. We can't have a hodge-podge of marriage laws with 50 states. Marriage should only be with a man & and Lady.. Miss. California is not only hot & cute, she rockz too! :D
Yep, fake boobz and all. I bet her brain is filled with silicone as well....
Quote from: nathanm on May 02, 2009, 09:28:04 PM
I think her problem was that the stock answers in Miss America always have something to do with how America is great and free and so on and so forth. Obviously, juxtaposing that with the opinion that gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry leads to some justifiable ridicule. Holding that opinion is wrong, IMO, but people are free to do so, however, trying to say that people are free to do what they desire when they are not is just dumb.
SHE WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION YOU STOOGE! What was she supposed to do?
Hilton: What's your opinion about gay marriage?
Prejean: America is a great and free and so on and so forth.
And about Obama "misspeaking" or something, I guess when he LIES about lobbyists working for him, accepting public finance, FISA, earmarks, transparency, he was misspeaking as well. At least Prejean was being honest. Oh, and about being "dumb", try this little gem on for size, and he had a teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU
What you know about reasoning and intelligent debate could fit into a thimble.
You are not even trying anymore.
Quote from: guido911 on May 03, 2009, 02:48:55 PM
SHE WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION YOU STOOGE! What was she supposed to do?
Not have gone on about how people are "free to choose gay marriage or opposite marriage," when that isn't in fact the case.
I think people who oppose gay marriage are wrong, but that doesn't mean I look down on them for it or anything, so long as they are honest about it and don't try to go all 1984 on me.
As far as Obama is concerned, I was speaking of your specific examples. Somehow you decide to generalize that and blast me for other things which I have never stated an opinion regarding.
Quote from: nathanm on May 03, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
I think people who oppose gay marriage are wrong, but that doesn't mean I look down on them for it or anything, so long as they are honest about it and don't try to go all 1984 on me.
I agree with you on that. I could care less about this issue.
The FBI has been around only 100 days? Didn't know that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhvPy1LIp0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhotair.com%2Farchives%2F2009%2F05%2F03%2Fpoll-obamateurism-of-the-week-4%2F&feature=player_embedded
Color me old fashioned, but IMO opinion this gay marriage just opens the flood gates to anything and everything goes. Things like a man who wants to have 3 wives or who wants to marry his sister, marry his dog etc will have to be allowed- It will allow all sorts of perverted activities. The "stentch" on the bench as they say knew that gay marriage fails everytime people voted on the issue and in every state it was voted on, it's clear that the American people do not want gay marriage, so the liberals turn to the courts to twist current laws and get their agenda passed. Miss. Califorina speaks out her opinion and she gets slammed, where is all that liberal tolerance for other view points and freedom of speech now? Why can't Miss. California have her opinion that is not PC? We love ya and support ya Miss. California! :)
Now her Christianity is being challenged because she posed for some "racy" pictures. The Palinizing continues:
http://www.popcrunch.com/miss-california-nude-picture-carrie-prejean-naked-photo-scandal/
Rumor has it Perez Hilton was not impressed.
Oh man, why do you care?
Her opinion and her pictures only matter when you let them matter.
I give them the same credence I do with any other ill-informed youngster.
Nice patootie though.
Quote from: Nik on April 22, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
Is anyone surprised? Perez is an attention whore and will do anything to get his name out there.
+1
Quote from: guido911 on May 05, 2009, 10:19:46 AM
Now her Christianity is being challenged because she posed for some "racy" pictures. The Palinizing continues:
Ohhh.. Do I hear the start of the GOP's next push to get another woman on the Presidential ballot. She just needs to be mayor of a town of 5 and she almost has the same credentials.
I for one would like to get a conservative like Sarah Palin in the white house. She has the experence, she has Alaska running like a well oiled machine. Obama is a empty suit he had no experence in anything & it shows. I think someone like Sarah Palin would make a outstanding president. Sarah did alot for Alaska. She is very popular as a governer. :D
Quote from: Trogdor on May 05, 2009, 10:33:48 AM
Ohhh.. Do I hear the start of the GOP's next push to get another woman on the Presidential ballot. She just needs to be mayor of a town of 5 and she almost has the same credentials.
I hear she is going to do some community organizing, because that REALLY qualifies someone to lead the country.
This highly moral beauty pageant contest turns out to have some very racy photos coming out. She, of course, blamed her enemies for trying to ruin her character.
She took the photos willingly, yet blames others for her sin.
Hypocrite.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on May 05, 2009, 03:27:42 PM
...Hypocrite.
She'd make a good neo-con talk show host if true....
Quote from: RecycleMichael on May 05, 2009, 03:27:42 PM
This highly moral beauty pageant contest turns out to have some very racy photos coming out. She, of course, blamed her enemies for trying to ruin her character.
She took the photos willingly, yet blames others for her sin.
Hypocrite.
Have you seen the photos? This is more "racy" than those:
(http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/6a00d834fd7f7353ef0105368fa446970b-800wi.jpg)
And she's right. She been fake boobed, dumb b$tched, "c" worded, and now this. So remind me how she is being hypocritical or are you joining the Palinizing and JTP-ing of another person you don't agree with.
Oh, and what sin did she commit? Having her body photographed? Jeez RM, it's 2009, take off the puritan hat.
Exhibit question: Are lingerie models sinners too then or do pretty girls with an opinion scare you. ;)
She gives an opinion about a controversial subject and it's made it into the mainstream.
Of course she's going to be attacked. Everyone in her position will be no matter which side is chosen.
If she said she was for marriage for anyone she'd be called the same names by the other side.
I am not opposed to racy photos...I think she is the one playing the morality card.
Quote from: guido911 on May 05, 2009, 04:01:45 PM
Have you seen the photos? This is more "racy" than those:
(http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/6a00d834fd7f7353ef0105368fa446970b-800wi.jpg)
Anything about the picture they are attacking her with is stupid. The photo isn't that big a deal at all.
Quote from: Trogdor on May 05, 2009, 06:22:54 PM
Anything about the picture they are attacking her with is stupid. The photo isn't that big a deal at all.
Then why is she making it a big deal?
How is this so different than parading around in a bathing suit?
Skin is skin. Just because its easier to imagine what her boobs look like...ugh. This sort of thing is so ridiculous.
I have no problem with her pictures. The thing to worry about is the attack on her opinion. That's like having "Thought Police" when people are fearful to say what they think & believe in. Did any of you hear that Mike Savage who is a very popular radio talk show host is now banned from the UK? Why? They don't like his view points and opinions. That is scary. What's next banning Rush, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingrham from the UK because of their views. This is very serious stuff folks. Mike Savage was very mad about this on his radio show yesterday and says he'll fight this and sue them.. We will wake up one day and wonder what happened to our freedoms. :o
Marion Barry warns of civil war in D.C. over same sex marriage.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2009/05/barry_warns_of_civil_war_over.html
Countdown to his "racy" pictures being released and boob job smear 3...2...1
Quote from: guido911 on May 06, 2009, 03:53:27 PM
Marion Barry warns of civil war in D.C. over same sex marriage.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2009/05/barry_warns_of_civil_war_over.html
Countdown to his "racy" pictures being released and boob job smear 3...2...1
Already had his pics.
He's one big boob. The voters of DC gave him a job.
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/images/barry/trial.gif)
Quote from: Townsend on May 06, 2009, 03:56:47 PM
Already had his pics.
He's one big boob. The voters of DC gave him a job.
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/images/barry/trial.gif)
What's interesting is that Barry is AA, as was a large percentage of the voters that passed prop 8. I am thinking this is not a civil rights issue as the LBGT folks want it framed but more of a religious rights issue. Remember the excoriation of the Mormans after that vote?
Still, although I'm Catholic, I really do not care about the issue--except--same sex couples make money and pay taxes and should be treated equally at tax time.
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 06, 2009, 09:43:08 AM
I have no problem with her pictures. The thing to worry about is the attack on her opinion. That's like having "Thought Police" when people are fearful to say what they think & believe in. Did any of you hear that Mike Savage who is a very popular radio talk show host is now banned from the UK? Why? They don't like his view points and opinions.
Yes, Michael Weiner is no longer allowed into the UK. So what? There are a lot of folks we won't let in our country thanks to their views, although we call them "terrorists," so it must be OK.
I'm curious as to what you think about the rest of the UK's list?
She gets to keep her crown.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22413.html
She also sends a message to all you sex trophy citizens who have done NOTHIING to defend the freedoms we have. Well said Carrie.
She wouldn't have even made the news if she were ugly.
Nobody really cares about listening to this woman's opinions...they just want to watch her talk. That's two different things.
If you're only paying attention b/c she's beautiful, then America really IS in trouble.
Show me the video of an unattractive but brilliant woman on TV, and let's have a discussion about what SHE thinks.
What? No interest?
How interesting.
Quote from: PonderInc on May 13, 2009, 10:15:59 AM
She wouldn't have even made the news if she were ugly.
Nobody really cares about listening to this woman's opinions...they just want to watch her talk. That's two different things.
If you're only paying attention b/c she's beautiful, then America really IS in trouble.
Show me the video of an unattractive but brilliant woman on TV, and let's have a discussion about what SHE thinks.
What? No interest?
How interesting.
Really, nobody cares? According to Perez the reason she lost the pageant was because of her opinion on gay marriage. Sounds like someone cared. Context Ponder, context.
I'm happy for Miss. California, she stuck to her guns and the majority of Americans feel the same as her and are against gay marriage. I am also strongly against gay marriage I see it as perverted, against nature, and it opens the door to anything & everything goes. Marriage should be defined thru a federal amendment of a union between a man & woman ONLY! Gay marriage has never passed any state thru a vote of the people, it was always voted down by the people, only the courts made gay marriage possible with liberal judges. We love ya Miss. California! :D
Quote from: MichaelWayne_71 on May 13, 2009, 11:30:08 AM
Perez Hilton
Yes, but he said "according to Perez". Should anyone say "according to Perez" when making an argument?
Quote from: Townsend on May 13, 2009, 11:58:23 AM
Yes, but he said "according to Perez". Should anyone say "according to Perez" when making an argument?
Cmon it was Guido... What do you expect. He reaches so far he could touch Russia from his house.
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 13, 2009, 11:58:01 AM
I'm happy for Miss. California, she stuck to her guns and the majority of Americans feel the same as her and are against gay marriage. I am also strongly against gay marriage I see it as perverted, against nature, and it opens the door to anything & everything goes. Marriage should be defined thru a federal amendment of a union between a man & woman ONLY! Gay marriage has never passed any state thru a vote of the people, it was always voted down by the people, only the courts made gay marriage possible with liberal judges. We love ya Miss. California! :D
I don't understand why everybody stops here (she had guns before the operation, now she has cannons btw). What about all those that get divorced. Surely they should not be able to re-Marry. What part of breaking an agreement you took in front of God do people not understand?
Quote from: Townsend on May 13, 2009, 11:58:23 AM
Yes, but he said "according to Perez". Should anyone say "according to Perez" when making an argument?
My first thought was "Pervez Musharraf"...but I couldn't figure out how all this tied in with Pakistan...
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 13, 2009, 11:58:01 AM
I'm happy for Miss. California, she stuck to her guns and the majority of Americans feel the same as her and are against [mixed race] marriage. I am also strongly against [mixed race] marriage I see it as perverted, against nature, and it opens the door to anything & everything goes. Marriage should be defined thru a federal amendment of a union between [people of the same race] ONLY! [Mixed race] marriage has never passed any state thru a vote of the people, it was always voted down by the people, only the courts made [mixed race] marriage possible with liberal judges. We love ya Miss. California! :D
Funny how that statement reads when you take out "gay" and change out "mixed race" and pretend it was written in 1955. Wish we had more "conservative" Judges who returned slaves to their masters in the 1850's and upheld FBI investigations of "communists" in the 1950's.
The argument that change is being effectuated by the judiciary is irrelevant unless you concede that the Civil Rights movement was a bad thing or attack the logic being used to do so. My guess is you have yet to read the Iowa decision and certainly haven't presented a logical argument. Your entire argument is "I don't like gay marriage so we should ban it!" Which is not compelling.
Marriage is not natural. Marriage is a man made institution that predates Christianity and predates the Jewish laws. The anatomy of man suggests we were in relatively monogamous relationships long before the advent of marriage contracts or religious marriages, let alone government licensed marriage. Hence, monogamy is natural to man (presumably mostly hetero sexual since we survived as a species), but we created marriage.
The counter argument can spin a couple different directions:
1) Man was created in Gods image and God gave him woman. This argument would discount evolutionary science (as well as biology, anthropology, geology, etc.) and argue the "Young Earth" side of things. Pointing to the Bible as the primary evidence for the contentions.
or
2) Marriage is an institution created by God. Judeo-Christian doctrine has always mandated a union between a man and a woman.
The problem with both is that they are directly a religious argument. God did this, God wants that. Which are not logical arguments for the passage of laws. But no logical arguments exist against Gay Marriage, so we are left with the residual, underlying reason: because some peoples belief in God dictates it as a rule.
I do not believe the issue is related to religious rights. We are talking about the ability for persons to civilly contract with each other and the government to recognize such a contract. An inherently non-religious ordeal.
- - -
To quickly address the notion of it leading to "anything goes" marriages:
Like what? Animals don't have contracting rights, you can't marry an animal or sign a contract of any kind with them. If you are afraid it will create multilateral marriage contracts - so what? How would that effect you negatively? And if it was good enough for people IN your Bible why isn't it good enough today? The argument is utterly without merit.
And I really don't care what Ms. California's stance on the issue is or how many times she has had naked pictures taken. The issue is interesting, but not because of anything some beauty queen did or said. She should be free to express any view she wants without punishment from the organization, especially when directly asked by said organization (to be fair the pictures were the pretense for punishment).
But really, this was about publicity for The Donald, nothing more.
Quote from: cannon_fodder on May 13, 2009, 01:48:24 PM
Funny how that statement reads when you take out "gay" and change out "mixed race" and pretend it was written in 1955.
That is exactly what it would read if we had web forums 50 years ago.
I think God can decide who can and can't get married. The state should stay out of it and only do civil unions. I am sure the fine print says that God always has the right to not recognize your Marriage.
PREJEAN TO RUN AS GOP VP IN 2012
"Carrie has all the same qualifications for high office that Sarah Palin did before she began her amazing run."
Satire by R J Shulman
LOS ANGELES -- (PTSD News) -- The GOP announced today that beauty queen and new rising star Carrie Prejean will be a shoe-in -- that is, a high-heeled shoe-in --for the vice presidential slot in the next national election.
Fresh off her victory in holding on to her title of Miss California after she had lied about posing for semi-nude photos, Prejean said, "This is a victory for free speech as I should be able to express my opinions without having to hear the opinions of people who disagree with me. You know, I am in favor of opposite marriage, but not opposite opinions to mine."
"Carrie has all the same qualifications for high office that Sarah Palin did before she began her amazing run," said GOP spokesperson Stix Larsen, "and by 2012, Sarah will have worn out her welcome and probably her looks, so it is important to find a fresh new face to run with maverick McCain (R-Ariz.) as we present the new Republican party. Ms. Prejean believes in the core conservative family values of gay bashing, liberal trashing, lying and breast augmentation."
Observers had fully expected Miss USA boss Donald Trump would strip Prejean of her crown for breaching her contract when she failed disclose those questionable pictures she took before the pageant began. However, Trump set aside the contract breach. "I just couldn't sack the girl," said Trump, co-owner of the Miss USA pageant. "I guess I'm not the type who can just come out and say, 'you're fired.' "
13 May 2009
Quote from: FOTD on May 14, 2009, 01:33:13 PM
PREJEAN TO RUN AS GOP VP IN 2012
"Carrie has all the same qualifications for high office that Sarah Palin did before she began her amazing run."
Satire by R J Shulman
LOS ANGELES -- (PTSD News) -- The GOP announced today that beauty queen and new rising star Carrie Prejean will be a shoe-in -- that is, a high-heeled shoe-in --for the vice presidential slot in the next national election.
Fresh off her victory in holding on to her title of Miss California after she had lied about posing for semi-nude photos, Prejean said, “This is a victory for free speech as I should be able to express my opinions without having to hear the opinions of people who disagree with me. You know, I am in favor of opposite marriage, but not opposite opinions to mine.”
“Carrie has all the same qualifications for high office that Sarah Palin did before she began her amazing run,” said GOP spokesperson Stix Larsen, “and by 2012, Sarah will have worn out her welcome and probably her looks, so it is important to find a fresh new face to run with maverick McCain (R-Ariz.) as we present the new Republican party. Ms. Prejean believes in the core conservative family values of gay bashing, liberal trashing, lying and breast augmentation.”
Observers had fully expected Miss USA boss Donald Trump would strip Prejean of her crown for breaching her contract when she failed disclose those questionable pictures she took before the pageant began. However, Trump set aside the contract breach. “I just couldn't sack the girl," said Trump, co-owner of the Miss USA pageant. "I guess I’m not the type who can just come out and say, 'you’re fired.' "
13 May 2009
(http://girlofwords.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/summerseve1.jpg)
I did predict this one, Ms Carrie is going to work for Fox News - http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/05/14/miss-california-on-cable-news-fox--friends-gives-carrie-prejean-her-chance.html (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/05/14/miss-california-on-cable-news-fox--friends-gives-carrie-prejean-her-chance.html)
QuoteMiss California and Miss USA runner-up, Carrie Prejean, tossed around in the battle over gay marriage, will be a one-day guest host for Fox News Channel's popular morning show Fox & Friends, Whispers learns. She will host the 6 a.m.-to-7 a.m. slot on May 27, filling in for Gretchen Carlson—the 1989 Miss America—who will be off that day.
The decision to make her a one-day cohost was finalized yesterday—the same day Prejean and Miss USA owner Donald Trump appeared on Fox & Friends.
Suzanne Scott, Fox vice president for programming, filled me in on the details of the gig for Prejean, who was thrust into the headlines when she rejected gay marriage during the Q&A part of the pageant. "We're just using her one time," she said, "to sit with the boys and have some fun." The boys are cohosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade. "She has become a national celebrity in the last few weeks, and it's a fun thing to do," said Scott. "It's a good way to try get a little buzz and fun for the show. We'll see what happens with it," she added.
Will the il duce and sweet bri be able to contain themselves?
Quote from: nathanm on May 03, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
Not have gone on about how people are "free to choose gay marriage or opposite marriage," when that isn't in fact the case.
Well we can hope the next time you are answering a politically-charged question in front of a large audience and millions of people you can do better.
Quote from: guido911 on May 14, 2009, 04:34:11 PM
Well we can hope the next time you are answering a politically-charged question in front of a large audience and millions of people you can do better.
Wow, when it's a big-breasted conservative who has a gaffe, you're all for the forgiveness. Democratic Party members such as VP Biden and Pres Obama, not so much.
Bias FAIL...
Quote from: TheArtist on April 21, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
That Perez guy just didnt help himself or his cause with that disghusting language and behavior. Quite the contrary. And, though I may disagree with some of what she said, I very much respect Miss Cali's responses and opinions.
What's even more alarming is that some people actually
like Perez Hilton.
Quote from: Hoss on May 14, 2009, 04:45:52 PM
Wow, when it's a big-breasted conservative who has a gaffe, you're all for the forgiveness. Democratic Party members such as VP Biden and Pres Obama, not so much.
Bias FAIL...
Yes, it's so wrong to expect more from the Pres than from a beauty pageant contestant
Quote from: jiminy on May 14, 2009, 05:41:32 PM
Yes, it's so wrong to expect more from the Pres than from a beauty pageant contestant
What did the five fingers say to the face? Slap. +1
Quote from: guido911 on May 05, 2009, 03:24:21 PM
I hear she is going to do some community organizing, because that REALLY qualifies someone to lead the country.
Actually, it kinda does.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/archive/barackobama/
He gained the kinds of experiences and perspectives working with churches on the southside of Chicago in the late 80s that a Bush or Clinton should've had... but didn't.
His slapdown of another blowhard attention whore (not Perez Hilton)... Alan Keyes, in the Illinois US Senate debate... a thing of beauty...
Keyes-Obama debate 3 (Religion and Gay marriage)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG5u04Gbg0A
DON'T SEE ANY TELEPROMPTER THERE.... DO YOU? Alan Keyes... d'oh.
Barack Obama gave an answer in an arguably much more important public forum than the Miss USA Pageant (not to be confused with Miss America)..... compare Obama's answers in this format to the short and sweet "opposite marriage" answer given by Miss California to the flamer Perez Hilton....
Miss USA California Responds To Gay Marriage Question From Perez Hiltonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMvviFbkf0
I am PROUD to have not only voted for Obama, but I am proud to have given money to his campaign.... the more our current president pi$$es Guido off, the more I understand I did the right thing in supporting Barack Hussein Obama...
God Bless the USA.
Quote from: jiminy on May 14, 2009, 05:41:32 PM
Yes, it's so wrong to expect more from the Pres than from a beauty pageant contestant
Wrong. If you put yourself out in public as an attention whore making their moral and political stances known to media (pay attention here Gweed, you might be able to take some pointers) then you can expect to be treated like an attention whore.
If you don't want public ridicule, don't put your opinions or yourself in the public media. Period.
Quote from: guido911 on April 21, 2009, 05:57:15 PM
I know the story is two days old, but I saw this interview with Miss Cali on Cavuto's show. Beauty with brains (although I am not against gay marriage). No bailouts/no welfare +1
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=4505549&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749
Yup she's pretty cool for being against gay marriage ::) but loves to pose nude (or near nude) in pics. What a great role model for kids :D! LOL
No wonder she's no longer Miss California they kicked her hypocritical but out of that title.
Quote from: Cherish on June 15, 2009, 01:58:45 AM
Yup she's pretty cool for being against gay marriage...She's brutally mislead
but loves to pose nude (or near nude) in pics...As do many of us
What a great role model for kids LOL...homophobic problem kids
No wonder she's no longer Miss California they kicked her hypocritical but out of that title.
Allegedly due to not showing up for her job
Welcome to Tulsa and TulsaNow and kudos on calling down the thunder.
Quote from: Cherish on June 15, 2009, 01:58:45 AM
Yup she's pretty cool for being against gay marriage ::) but loves to pose nude (or near nude) in pics. What a great role model for kids :D! LOL
No wonder she's no longer Miss California they kicked her hypocritical but out of that title.
You know who else is against gay marriage and poses semi-nude in pics smarty:
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:QlgcegWTN29t3M:http://thenewtj105.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/obama-shirtless.jpg)
Incidentally, Prejean says she was fired because she refused to do another stupid reality show and pose for Playboy. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight newbie. Oh, and welcome aboard.
Why does posing nude make her a hypocrite or impact her beliefs in any way? If she was posing nude with a lesbian and had those views then you might be able to call her a hypocrite.
Hi Cherish and welcome. I see you have already met our very on beloved President Hater and general good/bad guy. On some occasions I actually do agree with Guidotoes.
Hey Guido, so you believe her and not the person who fired her. Why doesn't she go after the accusing party then and bring them before the labor relations board? Or is she afraid that she will LOSE. Or is she just all talk and NO substance. She probably already has her eye candy job with Fox, something for Steve and Bri to salivate all over everyday.
Quote from: joiei on June 15, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Hi Cherish and welcome. I see you have already met our very on beloved President Hater and general good/bad guy. On some occasions I actually do agree with Guidotoes.
Hey Guido, so you believe her and not the person who fired her. Why doesn't she go after the accusing party then and bring them before the labor relations board? Or is she afraid that she will LOSE. Or is she just all talk and NO substance. She probably already has her eye candy job with Fox, something for Steve and Bri to salivate all over everyday.
Thanks for such a heart-warming description of me to the newbie. I was touched.
Should Prejean go and sue or file an action against someone? Does that have to be the solution to our problems, filing lawsuits? Sheesh. She's going to get a cush gig somewhere and will get on with her life.
Incidentally, the "new" Miss Cali believes marriage is between and man and a woman too. Where's Perez Hilton calling her a b!tch or the "C" word?
Perez Hilton IS a b!tch.
Sorry everyone...duh I'm just a noob...duh...don't know what's going on...guh huh...guh huh...
(http://i34.tinypic.com/200burm.jpg)
Can you name the new Miss USA? Can you name the replacement for Miss California? NO and NO. Ms Prejean is a master at making her name and her face famous. Of course Fox helped with running untold repeats of her walking around in her bikini. So did the other news channels. She is now more famous than the Gretch on Fox News. Plus she will probably take over Gretch's spot on the "CURVY" couch. Mr Kilmeade will probably not be able to talk for a couple of weeks. Thank goodness for that blessing.
Quote from: Cherish on June 15, 2009, 05:54:27 PM
Sorry everyone...duh I'm just a noob...duh...don't know what's going on...guh huh...guh huh...
Don't appologize, just be firm and forceful in your opinions. Some of the posters can be fierce and relentless in being Buttttheads.
Quote from: joiei on June 15, 2009, 09:48:41 PM
Don't appologize, just be firm and forceful in your opinions. Some of the posters can be fierce and relentless in being Buttttheads.
Don't come down so hard on yourself, Joe. As for the rest, absolutely stand firm. Your opinions, whether they are popular or not, are important. Discourse is important.
QuoteYup she's pretty cool for being against gay marriage ::) but loves to pose nude (or near nude) in pics. What a great role model for kids :D! LOL
No wonder she's no longer Miss California they kicked her hypocritical but out of that title.
How, exactly does that make her a hypocrite? So because you're against gay marriage, you are automatically against nudity?
THIS GAY MARRIAGE THING SHOULD NEVER BE A PLATFORM FOR ANYTHING. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS IS WRONG, IMMORAL, A SIN, ETC...IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS!! IF SOMEONE ASKED ME WHAT MY WIFE & I DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS...THERE CERTAINLY WOULD BE A PROBLEM. HOW DO THE ACTIVITIES OF TWO MEN OR TWO WOMEN IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOME AFFECT ANYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD? IF YOU THINK IT'S WRONG BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. WE'RE ALL JUST HUMAN BEINGS ON THIS PLANET & WE ONLY HAVE ONE SHOT AT THIS LIFE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME FIGHTING SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THEM AT ALL...THAT'S JUST SAD!
Quote from: Michael71 on June 18, 2009, 05:01:05 PM
How, exactly does that make her a hypocrite? So because you're against gay marriage, you are automatically against nudity?
THIS GAY MARRIAGE THING SHOULD NEVER BE A PLATFORM FOR ANYTHING. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS IS WRONG, IMMORAL, A SIN, ETC...IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS!! IF SOMEONE ASKED ME WHAT MY WIFE & I DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS...THERE CERTAINLY WOULD BE A PROBLEM. HOW DO THE ACTIVITIES OF TWO MEN OR TWO WOMEN IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOME AFFECT ANYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD? IF YOU THINK IT'S WRONG BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. WE'RE ALL JUST HUMAN BEINGS ON THIS PLANET & WE ONLY HAVE ONE SHOT AT THIS LIFE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME FIGHTING SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THEM AT ALL...THAT'S JUST SAD!
Ouch my ears are bleeding....
Quote from: Michael71 on June 18, 2009, 05:01:05 PM
How, exactly does that make her a hypocrite? So because you're against gay marriage, you are automatically against nudity?
THIS GAY MARRIAGE THING SHOULD NEVER BE A PLATFORM FOR ANYTHING. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS IS WRONG, IMMORAL, A SIN, ETC...IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS!! IF SOMEONE ASKED ME WHAT MY WIFE & I DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS...THERE CERTAINLY WOULD BE A PROBLEM. HOW DO THE ACTIVITIES OF TWO MEN OR TWO WOMEN IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOME AFFECT ANYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD? IF YOU THINK IT'S WRONG BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. WE'RE ALL JUST HUMAN BEINGS ON THIS PLANET & WE ONLY HAVE ONE SHOT AT THIS LIFE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME FIGHTING SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THEM AT ALL...THAT'S JUST SAD!
All the bashers don't want to have the temptation to go get married to the same sex. This way, they won't drink a couple of beers and end up married to their friend in Vegas.
Quote from: Cherish on June 18, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Ouch my ears are bleeding....
http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2009/05/22/adam_lambert_makes_clay_aikens_ears_bleed.php (http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2009/05/22/adam_lambert_makes_clay_aikens_ears_bleed.php)
Quote from: Trogdor on June 18, 2009, 06:24:52 PM
All the bashers don't want to have the temptation to go get married to the same sex. This way, they won't drink a couple of beers and end up married to their friend in Vegas.
A friend (who is gay) calls them "two beer queers", God-fearing, anti-gay, super Christian and usually family men that after only two beers in them are cage dancing at Renegades.
Apparently very common in Tulsa.
Quote from: swake on June 19, 2009, 10:32:37 AM
A friend (who is gay) calls them "two beer queers", God-fearing, anti-gay, super Christian and usually family men that after only two beers in them are cage dancing at Renegades.
Apparently very common in Tulsa.
No kiddin'? Got some tales to tell?
Quote from: Townsend on June 19, 2009, 10:36:12 AM
No kiddin'? Got some tales to tell?
Not personally, if that's what you mean. The closest I've been to Renegades was 20 years ago I lived across the street for a time. I have some stories about what you could see from my balcony into the parking lot, the parking lot could be very "entertaining", but that's it.
Renegades hasn't had a cage in at least 6 years, and I can't even think of where you could even fit one in there. Are you sure that you aren't thinking of Majestic?
Quote from: Michael71 on June 19, 2009, 10:02:18 AM
http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2009/05/22/adam_lambert_makes_clay_aikens_ears_bleed.php (http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2009/05/22/adam_lambert_makes_clay_aikens_ears_bleed.php)
LOL yea I know about that, I may be living in NC right now but Clay Aiken sucks!!! Go Adam!!! Naw I just said that cause of the Caps that person had on. As everyone knows Internet Etiquette says caps means yelling, so my ears were bleeding cause of that (of course not literally). ;)
Quote from: Cherish on June 19, 2009, 01:26:23 PM
LOL yea I know about that, I may be living in NC right now but Clay Aiken sucks!!! Go Adam!!! Naw I just said that cause of the Caps that person had on. As everyone knows Internet Etiquette says caps means yelling, so my ears were bleeding cause of that (of course not literally). ;)
Yeah, we've got some screamers on here.
Looks like the Former Miss California now has a new job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffGTvroyBc&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffGTvroyBc&feature=player_embedded)
Singing at the Del Mar Racetrack. Great Gig.