I do not recall seeing these oldsters coming out in the newspapers stating their opinions on pedophile Priests.
This http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090407_18_A9_Somepr130592 must be a huge POLITICAL issue for these Major Players. A stunning insensitivity to the church's past failures for the World to print this. Fortunately, Notre Dame is not succumbing to this tolerance for pedophiles and intolerance for such life-saving research as stem-cell research.
And, Mr. Nelson just went up 10 fold in my book of positive thinking Tulsans. He's got that true religion.
"Notre Dame's president, the Rev. John Jenkins, previously said the university does not condone all of the president's policies, but it's valuable to engage in conversation and there are no plans to rescind the invitation."
Billy Warren, quit being such a sour puss. You can't control this issue.
Mayor LaFortune, stay out of the funny pages. We already know you are a die hard Republican.
An insult to the Presidency!
Have these people no respect for our leader?
South Bend Journal
Invitation to Obama Stirs Up Notre Dame
By DIRK JOHNSON
Published: April 5, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/us/06notredame.html?_r=1&nl=pol&emc=polb1
SOUTH BEND, Ind. — As church bells pealed, Claire Gillen, a Notre Dame freshman, stood on the stone steps of the Basilica of the Sacred Heart, accusing this fabled Roman Catholic institution of sin and sacrilege.
"It's a scandal," said Ms. Gillen, voicing outrage over the university's invitation to President Obama, a supporter of abortion rights, to deliver the commencement address here on May 17.
Some alumni have called the campus saying they have thrown away their Fighting Irish sweatshirts in disgust. The local bishop, John D'Arcy, has vowed to boycott the graduation ceremony. A visiting high school senior, Halley Chavey, who said she was thrilled just weeks ago to be accepted here, said she might reject the offer because the college was hosting "the most pro-abortion president we've ever had."
But for all the high-pitched indignation, the talk among students and faculty on this gothic campus of towering oaks and sculpted saints seems to reveal a strikingly upbeat mood about Mr. Obama's visit."Most of us are like, 'Wow, the president of the United States is coming,' " said Brett Ensor, a Texas native who belongs to the Knights of Columbus, opposes abortion and voted for Mr. Obama's Republican opponent, Senator John McCain. "What college wouldn't want Obama to come? This is a tremendous honor for us."
Threatened protests of the president's visit by some conservative groups on campus have left liberal students like Max Young cringing over what they say is the portrayal of Notre Dame as insulated and narrow-minded.
"If you can't speak openly at Notre Dame, who's going to want to come here?" said Mr. Young, a supporter of abortion rights. He pointed out that Catholic teaching endorses many of Mr. Obama's views, especially when it comes to aiding the poor and immigrants. "President Obama is one of us. He's on our side."
Notre Dame is regarded as an academic powerhouse and conservative Catholic bastion. But in a mock election here in November, Mr. Obama defeated Mr. McCain among students by about 11 percentage points. He won roughly the same margin of victory among Catholic voters in the national election.
Some 97 percent of seniors who have sent letters to the school newspaper, The Observer, support Mr. Obama as the commencement speaker, said the editor, Jenn Metz. Letters from alumni, however, have overwhelmingly opposed his appearance.
As anti-abortion advocates, including Randall Terry, make plans to demonstrate against Mr. Obama at the commencement, the student newspaper has published an editorial opposing anything that would mar the ceremony.
"Healthy debate is welcomed," the editorial stated. "Photographs of aborted fetuses are not."
The university's president, the Rev. John I. Jenkins, has insisted that Notre Dame will not withdraw its invitation to Mr. Obama, and the White House has sent word that the president, who will be awarded an honorary doctorate of law, is eager to address the graduates. Father Jenkins has said the invitation showed respect and admiration for the president, but did not endorse his views on abortion, which the church considers an "intrinsic evil."
In addition to Notre Dame, the president has accepted requests to speak at commencement ceremonies at the United States Naval Academy and Arizona State University.
Notre Dame routinely invites presidents to speak at graduation. Mr. Obama will be the sixth president to deliver the commencement address here, after Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush and George W. Bush.
If some students skip the graduation ceremony, or turn their backs on Mr. Obama, as some conservative student groups have urged, it would not be the first time Notre Dame graduates have signaled disagreement with a visiting president. When President George W. Bush spoke at the commencement in 2001, many students wore armbands signaling their opposition to his support of the death penalty.
But the appearance of Mr. Obama, in the view of some Catholic officials, is grounds for a deeper moral battle. Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, the leader of American bishops, has called the invitation of the president "an extreme embarrassment." A prominent professor of philosophy, Ralph McInerny, has characterized the invitation of Mr. Obama as "a deliberate thumbing of the collective nose at the Roman Catholic Church."
Professors like Panos J. Antsaklis, on the other hand, warn that a belligerent stand against Mr. Obama would portray the school as weak on academic freedom. "If there are ugly protests," said Professor Antsaklis, who teaches electrical engineering, "the world might see Notre Dame as a place that is not open to other ideas."
In the view of the Rev. Richard McBrien, a prominent liberal theologian at Notre Dame, the commotion over Mr. Obama centers not on faith, but on politics.
"This crowd," Mr. McBrien said, referring to conservative Catholics, "are simply Republicans who are upset that Obama won the election — and they want to pick a fight."
But to students like Ms. Gillen, it is a matter of religion.
"Abortion is central to the faith," she said, "It's a nonnegotiable issue."
Talking to ourselves again?
It could be spun just as easily that President Obama has no respect for long-standing religious institutions in our country. May be a big to-do about nothing to most of us, I'm protestant so I don't have a horse in this, but some major donors sure are upset.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 07, 2009, 02:35:45 PM
It could be spun just as easily that President Obama has no respect for long-standing religious institutions in our country. May be a big to-do about nothing to most of us, I'm protestant so I don't have a horse in this, but some major donors sure are upset.
How do you spin an invitation?
I get it. POTUS contacts Notre Dame University to tell them to invite him to speak.
And where has he displayed no respect for long-standing religious institutions? No doubt, he certainly respects institutions of higher education.
Cute pun on the horses and Major donors. Guess Warren will give less to the school and buy himself a contender.
Let's say the President exercizes a little humility and understanding and politely declines the invitation so as not to alienate supporters of this Catholic university. Again, I don't have a personal issue with it, but I'm neither Cat'lic (in spite of the avatar ;D) nor an alumni of ND. The President obviously has some idealogical differences with mainstream Catholocism. I don't think that should take away from the opportunity for the class of '09 to have a sitting POTUS speak at their commencement.
I am a Lutheran. We disagree strongly with the Catholic church on many issues. The prostestant movement was spearheaded by Martin Luther who described the pope as the devil. So, if I become president am I not welcome either? Where is the dividing line between respect for leadership and religious principals?
Notre Dame's reputation is damaged by the narrow minded attitude of these bishops and the Irish faithful. It puts them right up there with the Oklahoma legislature.