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Title: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Neptune on March 12, 2009, 03:23:06 PM
How would you describe the city of Tulsa to someone who had zero knowledge of this town?
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Renaissance on March 12, 2009, 03:36:56 PM
Like a little Austin without the university, capital or hippies.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Hometown on March 12, 2009, 03:41:18 PM
Look past her fascination with Guns, Evangelism and Military.  At her best, Tulsa engenders the Love of Home and the Nurturing of Children.

Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 12, 2009, 04:04:55 PM
Tulsa is like cooking eggs in a skillet over a campfire. The temperature ain't even, there are some ashes to deal with and it needs something you don't have, but you're proud of the results.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: TheArtist on March 12, 2009, 06:41:54 PM
 I do this a lot lol.

  Tulsa is a nice, small city. Dont look at those big skyscrapers and let that fool ya we are a very small, but lucky, city of only 380,000. We have been through some rough times in the recent past, but things are getting better.

We have some nice stuff here from the old oil boom era "grand old mansions, beautiful neighborhoods, stunning downtown architecture, museums, etc.". Right now there is some excitement about what is happening around town; new Arena, new Ballpark, new trails and amenities on the beautiful river parks, old buildings downtown being rehabbed, more urban housing coming in downtown, neat areas like Brookside and Cherry Street growing, great new developments across the river in Jenks, colleges expanding, and all kinds of other things. Tulsa is a young city and doesn't have a lot of the amenities that larger, older cities have, but we are starting to finally get there.  There is a lot of potential and opportunity here. Carpe diem!

   
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: RipTout on March 12, 2009, 10:12:44 PM
The mirror image of asluT.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: OurTulsa on March 12, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: Floyd on March 12, 2009, 03:36:56 PM
Like a little Austin without the university, capital or hippies.

That's funny because I've described it to some of my friends as:

a little like New York without the subway, NYU, the west village or williamsburg, central park, the ocean, broadway, the people, and the cabbies!  Of course, I'm totally bs-n as I'm trying to convince them to visit...cause it's just like the City.

Sometimes I describe it as a City that wants desperately to be like Kansas City or Chicago but can't quite get out of South.  The energy industry brought the City some High Society but that money and culture has slowly seeped to Houston and those that want to make this City interesting and diverse are finding themselves more and more in the minority.  With that said, it's affordable and the people are friendly.  And with most places, it's what you make it and there is enough here to make it enjoyable.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: RipTout on March 12, 2009, 11:58:40 PM
Lethal?

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/environment/la-sci-ozone12-2009mar12,0,5652358.story?track=rss

Gimme just a little mo of that low level ozone.....

Never mind. Our doses are high level.

All's clear.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Chicken Little on March 13, 2009, 09:57:20 AM
Tulsa is the Paris of Oklahoma!
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: USRufnex on March 13, 2009, 11:56:36 AM
Athens on the Arkansas  ...  snark.   :P
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on March 13, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
This is a tuff one. Tulsa: The shining city on the hill sums it up pretty much, I'd also say getting around in Tulsa is very easy the streets are layed out in a grid pattern so you don't have to worry about getting lost. Tulsa is a bit like Fort Worth in many ways minus the Billy Bob's Texas. Tulsa & Fort Worth both have jogging trails on their river banks. I'd have to say Fort Worth & Tulsa are alot alike. Know one and you'll know the other. :D
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Gaspar on March 13, 2009, 02:22:15 PM
Tulsa, exactly like nothing else.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: PonderInc on March 13, 2009, 02:31:41 PM
Tulsa is a "training bra" city.  Not quite flat chested.  Not quite fully endowed.

It's where people from small towns move to "the big city."  And where people from Tulsa leave for "the big city."

It's the city version of a TU basketball coach's career...a stepping stone on the way to a more prestigous place.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Gaspar on March 13, 2009, 02:37:31 PM
Quote from: PonderInc on March 13, 2009, 02:31:41 PM
Tulsa is a "training bra" city.  Not quite flat chested.  Not quite fully endowed.

It's where people from small towns move to "the big city."  And where people from Tulsa leave for "the big city."

It's the city version of a TU basketball coach's career...a stepping stone on the way to a more prestigous place.

I know a bunch of people (myself included) who "stepped out" but when we were ready to raise a family we came back.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: we vs us on March 13, 2009, 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: PonderInc on March 13, 2009, 02:31:41 PM
Tulsa is a "training bra" city.  Not quite flat chested.  Not quite fully endowed.

It's where people from small towns move to "the big city."  And where people from Tulsa leave for "the big city."

It's the city version of a TU basketball coach's career...a stepping stone on the way to a more prestigous place.

Your second sentence nailed it entirely.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: nathanm on March 13, 2009, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: we vs us on March 13, 2009, 02:37:55 PM
Your second sentence nailed it entirely.
Tulsa: Not quite flat chested.

Awesome. Let's pitch that to the chamber.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: GG on March 13, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
Quote from: TheArtist on March 12, 2009, 06:41:54 PM
I do this a lot lol.

  Tulsa is a nice, small city. Dont look at those big skyscrapers and let that fool ya we are a very small, but lucky, city of only 380,000. We have been through some rough times in the recent past, but things are getting better.

We have some nice stuff here from the old oil boom era "grand old mansions, beautiful neighborhoods, stunning downtown architecture, museums, etc.". Right now there is some excitement about what is happening around town; new Arena, new Ballpark, new trails and amenities on the beautiful river parks, old buildings downtown being rehabbed, more urban housing coming in downtown, neat areas like Brookside and Cherry Street growing, great new developments across the river in Jenks, colleges expanding, and all kinds of other things. Tulsa is a young city and doesn't have a lot of the amenities that larger, older cities have, but we are starting to finally get there.  There is a lot of potential and opportunity here. Carpe diem!

   

Nice description
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: waterboy on March 13, 2009, 10:22:43 PM
I've held off till my attitude improved. Here goes. Tulsa is a an amalgam of 5 little towns that have little in common with each other and often work against each other. That stems from several different origins. Different growth spurts it experienced during different time periods, racial discrimination, wealth disparity and class. We're more or less like boroughs. They are: North, South, East, West, and the Central or commonly called Midtown. One might also add NorthWest because of the bifurcation of Owen Park by 244 and Far South which is just short of Jenks and Bixby. I don't include Downtown as a town of its own since it has no real permanent population. Its a town in the making.

North is a blue collar racially mixed town where people know each other pretty well because of their churches and the neglect by the rest of the city for most of the last century. Great barbeque and a nationally honored high school are sources of pride for them. Nearby Northwest Tulsa includes lovely Owen Park and Gilcrease Museum. Reservoir Hill and Tulsa Country Club have the best views of the downtown skyline. The farther north you go the more dangerous life becomes.

South town starts at I-44 and is mostly white bread middle to upper class. Southern Hills was its crown in the sixties and still has a certain panache. This town was fueled by white flight, evangelism and consumerism. Starting to age now. Oral Roberts University is its south and western anchor and Woodland Hills/169 marks its south and eastern zenith. Far South runs therafter towards Jenks/Bixby. Fast food, new car dealership and chain restaurant center of the universe. Ever seen Irving, Denton, Grapevine or Arlington? Edmond?

East is the carcass of sixties to seventies expansion that petered out as South Tulsa became dominant. It starts at Memorial and becomes increasingly Hispanic the farther east you travel. North boundary is the Airport and south boundary is 41st street. Rapidly deteriorating and crime ridden.

West is a town separated from the rest by the river. Its the most identifiable as a small town since it has everything a small town needs including natural boundaries. Westsiders have their own shopping, mountains (well hills actually),  river and manufacturing. It stretches from Chandler Hill on the north to Turkey Mtn on the south. 

MidTown is the growth spurt started by the oilies in the roaring twenties and ending in the seventies for the most part. It contains the only concentration of Democrats in the city and not many of those. Its the closest thing to a cross section of our country though, containing places of worship for Christians, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics and Unitarians. Gays welcome, as long as they love to shop Brookside and the Square, Cherry Street and the Pearl. Besides the seat of local government in nearby downtown, it contains several Hospitals and a University or two. The venerable Utica Square is its flag bearer though it actually is centered more around Southroads at 41st & Yale. The term "Midtown Elite" pays homage to the concentration of wealth and power found in several of its neighborhoods.

Tulsa is this dissimilar collection of towns each with a different personality.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Double A on March 14, 2009, 11:39:16 AM
Tulsa is a city that governs by the golden rule...  those who have the gold make the rules.

It's too bad really, because there are more trusting, friendly, generous, people here than most places. Unfortunately that very quality might be what allows Tulsans to so often be taken advantage of by their own government.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Chicken Little on March 14, 2009, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Double A on March 14, 2009, 11:39:16 AM
Tulsa is a city that governs by the golden rule...  those who have the gold make the rules.

It's too bad really, because there are more trusting, friendly, generous, people here than most places. Unfortunately that very quality might be what allows Tulsans to so often be taken advantage of by their own government.
Aside:  Saw a interview (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html) with Karen Armstrong, freelance monotheist, mainly about the REAL golden rule...Reciprocity.  Lot's of conversation about Islam, one of her areas of expertise.  Very interesting if you have an hour.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on March 14, 2009, 02:49:58 PM
Quote from: PonderInc on March 13, 2009, 02:31:41 PM
Tulsa is a "training bra" city.  Not quite flat chested.  Not quite fully endowed.

It's where people from small towns move to "the big city."  And where people from Tulsa leave for "the big city."

It's the city version of a TU basketball coach's career...a stepping stone on the way to a more prestigous place.
Tulsa in training to become another OKC? -Or a stepping stone to overcome OKC?  :o
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 14, 2009, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: sauerkraut on March 14, 2009, 02:49:58 PM
Tulsa in training to become another OKC? -Or a stepping stone to overcome OKC?  :o

OKC is Tulsa's older sister who started hanging out with the wrong crowd.
It was unfortunate.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: TheArtist on March 14, 2009, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: sauerkraut on March 14, 2009, 02:49:58 PM
Tulsa in training to become another OKC? -Or a stepping stone to overcome OKC?  :o

I would rather us become another Denver, if we have to pick a larger, local city to emulate. Most people I know from Tulsa do not move to OKC they move to Dallas or Austin or larger cities. If your gonna move, really move, OKC would hardly be worth the effort. Its better in some ways right now, but not significantly so.  And you dont have to be "bigger" to be better. Doing your own thing and going for high quality is perfectly fine.  As long as our incomes are steadily up, quality of life up, better amenities, etc. Slow, manageable, population growth can be perfectly fine.  Also wouldnt mind if the urbanized areas of the city actually got smaller and we infilled more.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: carltonplace on March 16, 2009, 09:56:44 AM
I think waterboy is on point. People who live in one part of Tulsa rarely go to the other parts, and when they are there they can't wait to get back to their familiar setting. I've lived in South Tulsa, but I wouldn't want to again. I find it bland and car-centric, new development is everywhere and it makes you think that the only thing to do there is to shop. Southies find mid-town and down town old and worn out. North Tulsa has great views, a great mix of people and tons of potential..but due to misplaced fear of the unknown most people think it's scary though they've never been.

Everywhere you go though, Tulsans are friendly and considerate. If you are going to describe Tulsa you have to speak to how nice it's people are.
Title: Re: Describe Tulsa
Post by: sauerkraut on March 16, 2009, 11:35:16 AM
The large cities (like Dallas) have alot more to offer than Tulsa so we have to take Tulsa for what it is.. The D/FW MetroPlex has everything and anything anyone could want- from fancy restaurants to musiums to a major airport to finding a hard to get car  part to keep your old heap running, If it exists it's somewhere in the MetroPlex.  The MetroPlex for the most part is one huge city of 5 million peple. Tulsa is the ball game with cities like Wichita, Kansas- Omaha, NE  the focus should be there.