The Oilers lost out on my money for the second straight time tonight. I got there and hour and a half before gametime only to find out that the cheapest tickets ($12 and only available in a couple sections) were sold out.
This happened a few weeks ago as well.
I refuse to pay $17 for low level minor league sports, especially when I'll probably end up spending $20 on food beer.
It's $5-$7 to go to a Drillers game or just about any minor league baseball game. There are plenty of $10 tickets to 66ers games, as well.
Why are Oilers tickets three times as much as Drillers tickets?
It seems the Oilers' prices are out of line with prices for minor league sports, and their $12 tickets end up being a tease. Either you have to go to the box office in advance or buy online in advance (and pay $10 in fees, defeating the purpose of buying cheap tickets).
You'd think they'd want to offer more cheap tickets. Filling some of those empty seats with people who'll spend $20 each on concessions seems like a wise business move.
I've gone to a dozen games, never bought a ticket, they give free ones out all the time...
The $12 section is small (orange in the map below) If attendance improves they will start selling upper deck (cheap) tickets but so far attendance (and performance) is down.
The drillers have low upkeep, don't have to freeze and zamboni the film, and play about 4 times the games the oilers do. The 66ers are just trying to get anyone to show up. I believe talons tickets are actually higher than the oilers.
You can't compare sport-to-sport like that, there are a lot of cost differences. Not to mention the concession argument doesn't work since while you spend $20 on concessions, they get something like $6.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I've gone to a dozen games, never bought a ticket, they give free ones out all the time...
The $12 section is small (orange in the map below) If attendance improves they will start selling upper deck (cheap) tickets but so far attendance (and performance) is down.
The drillers have low upkeep, don't have to freeze and zamboni the film, and play about 4 times the games the oilers do. The 66ers are just trying to get anyone to show up. I believe talons tickets are actually higher than the oilers.
You can't compare sport-to-sport like that, there are a lot of cost differences. Not to mention the concession argument doesn't work since while you spend $20 on concessions, they get something like $6.
Didn't Lund and Henry throw a fit a few years ago and got a bigger share of concessions than that?
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Originally posted by TheTed
The Oilers lost out on my money for the second straight time tonight. I got there and hour and a half before gametime only to find out that the cheapest tickets ($12 and only available in a couple sections) were sold out.
This happened a few weeks ago as well.
I refuse to pay $17 for low level minor league sports, especially when I'll probably end up spending $20 on food beer.
It's $5-$7 to go to a Drillers game or just about any minor league baseball game. There are plenty of $10 tickets to 66ers games, as well.
Why are Oilers tickets three times as much as Drillers tickets?
It seems the Oilers' prices are out of line with prices for minor league sports, and their $12 tickets end up being a tease. Either you have to go to the box office in advance or buy online in advance (and pay $10 in fees, defeating the purpose of buying cheap tickets).
You'd think they'd want to offer more cheap tickets. Filling some of those empty seats with people who'll spend $20 each on concessions seems like a wise business move.
Because the Oilers play 32 home games compared to the Drillers 75?
And if you wanted the cheap tickets, tonight wasn't for it since they were retiring Doug Lawrence's jersey.
I just perused some other teams in Tulsa's league and the other teams' prices seem similar to ours.
But just as far as entertainment value, it seems a stretch for folks who aren't huge hockey fans to pay $17 to watch low level hockey that isn't likely to produce an NHL star and isn't remotely prominent nationally.
I'd be happy if they'd just add a few sections to those $12 tickets. This is the second time this year I've tried to attend a game but balked at paying $17. Just about every other local sports and nightlife option is cheaper.
I guess this is the price we pay for the BOK Center, as I see the Talons cheap seats are the same price in the same couple sections. It's a shame. Call me crazy, but to me there's not much difference in terms of the average fan experience from the old dumpy convention center to the bok center.
Buy tickets earlier.
Meh, I'll probably just choose other options.
It's now $5 to go to an ORU basketball game.
$10 for a TU basketball game.
$10 for 66ers.
$8 for a movie.
No charge to get in the door at McNellie's.
Even OKC Thunder tickets are ridiculously cheap on the secondary market for most games.
None of that stuff requires as much advance plannning.
Too bad none of that is ice hockey.
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Originally posted by TheTed
The Oilers lost out on my money for the second straight time tonight. I got there and hour and a half before gametime only to find out that the cheapest tickets ($12 and only available in a couple sections) were sold out.
This happened a few weeks ago as well.
I refuse to pay $17 for low level minor league sports, especially when I'll probably end up spending $20 on food beer.
It's $5-$7 to go to a Drillers game or just about any minor league baseball game. There are plenty of $10 tickets to 66ers games, as well.
Why are Oilers tickets three times as much as Drillers tickets?
It seems the Oilers' prices are out of line with prices for minor league sports, and their $12 tickets end up being a tease. Either you have to go to the box office in advance or buy online in advance (and pay $10 in fees, defeating the purpose of buying cheap tickets).
You'd think they'd want to offer more cheap tickets. Filling some of those empty seats with people who'll spend $20 each on concessions seems like a wise business move.
Eat at home, then take the $20 you were going to spend on food and spend it on higher priced tickets!
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
I agree with the Ted...$17 is too high to attend a minor league sporting event unless you want really good seats. The Oilers would do better offering more of the $12 seats rather than turn people away.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I've gone to a dozen games, never bought a ticket, they give free ones out all the time...
Where are the free ones? :) I know nothing of hockey but for free I would check it out lol
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Originally posted by TheTed
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
HOw is that being ripped off? You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare. OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.
But your choice, I guess. Hockey isn't that popular in the south. I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.
And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game. Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30. I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis. You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
HOw is that being ripped off? You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare. OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.
But your choice, I guess. Hockey isn't that popular in the south. I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.
And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game. Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30. I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis. You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.
I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.
It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.
No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.
The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.
I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.
I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.
$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.
I didn't think our prices were too bad. My wife and I go fairly regular and sit in the $20 seat. We've sat in more expensive seats, but they were actually too close to the ice and it was too hard to see the other end of the ice.
I've been to some NHL games and never spent less the $100 per ticket. Was at a Washington Caps game in December in Wash DC and spent well over $100. Hockey games aren't cheap, but they are fun.
I find Tulsa's prices fair for three hours of entertainment.
Baseball prices are cheaper because you get to sleep through a lot of the game before someone actually does something.
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Originally posted by TheTed
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
HOw is that being ripped off? You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare. OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.
But your choice, I guess. Hockey isn't that popular in the south. I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.
And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game. Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30. I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis. You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.
I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.
It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.
No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.
The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.
I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.
I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.
$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.
Instead of whining about the ticket prices, just show them how you feel by not going to the games. The pocketbook rules. There are other things you can do and you named them. There is not controversy here, no one forces you go to to the games. Simple solution, just don't go.
I plan on not going to any more games until they start offering actual cheap tickets that aren't severely limited.
Am I not allowed to post about my complaints? If that's the case, we might as well shut this board down.
Visit an Oklahoma State message board. Half the posts are complaints about their ridiculous prices and policies.
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Originally posted by TheTed
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
HOw is that being ripped off? You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare. OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.
But your choice, I guess. Hockey isn't that popular in the south. I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.
And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game. Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30. I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis. You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.
I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.
It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.
No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.
The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.
I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.
I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.
$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.
And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN. They're AA hockey for pete's sake! Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.
Sheesh. Just don't go. There are a lot that choose not to. If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.
Call and make your voice heard. *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.
Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know. Guess what? YOU DON'T. I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way. I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games. So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
HOw is that being ripped off? You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare. OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.
But your choice, I guess. Hockey isn't that popular in the south. I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.
And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game. Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30. I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis. You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.
I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.
It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.
No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.
The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.
I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.
I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.
$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.
And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN. They're AA hockey for pete's sake! Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.
Sheesh. Just don't go. There are a lot that choose not to. If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.
Call and make your voice heard. *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.
Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know. Guess what? YOU DON'T. I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way. I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games. So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.
I said hockey's not big in Tulsa. I didn't think that was some crazy, controversial idea.
Next you'll get irate for me saying college football is big in Oklahoma.
I respect your hockey fandom. I have no problem with your hockey fandom. If I were a hockey fan I'd have no beef with ticket prices.
But I'm not a hockey fan.
I'm just a guy who wants to be entertained without spending too much money. The vast majority of Tulsans are not hockey fans. You telling me you know a lot of hockey fans doesn't change that fact.
And the Drillers are far more relevant since they produce big league MVPs.
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Originally posted by Wilbur
I didn't think our prices were too bad. My wife and I go fairly regular and sit in the $20 seat. We've sat in more expensive seats, but they were actually too close to the ice and it was too hard to see the other end of the ice.
I've been to some NHL games and never spent less the $100 per ticket. Was at a Washington Caps game in December in Wash DC and spent well over $100. Hockey games aren't cheap, but they are fun.
I find Tulsa's prices fair for three hours of entertainment.
Baseball prices are cheaper because you get to sleep through a lot of the game before someone actually does something.
^^^^^
[}:)]
True.
I've said that baseball is 6 minutes of excitement wrapped around 150 minutes of utter boredom.
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Originally posted by TheTed
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
HOw is that being ripped off? You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare. OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.
But your choice, I guess. Hockey isn't that popular in the south. I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.
And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game. Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30. I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis. You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.
I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.
It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.
No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.
The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.
I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.
I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.
$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.
And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN. They're AA hockey for pete's sake! Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.
Sheesh. Just don't go. There are a lot that choose not to. If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.
Call and make your voice heard. *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.
Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know. Guess what? YOU DON'T. I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way. I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games. So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.
I said hockey's not big in Tulsa. I didn't think that was some crazy, controversial idea.
Next you'll get irate for me saying college football is big in Oklahoma.
Believe it or not, I could care less whether it's big or not. Tulsa has a better average attendance then over half of other minor league franchises. Just because you don't agree with the pricing structure doesn't mean hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You have a beef with the Oilers, as I say again, call them.
But somehow I doubt you will.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TheTed
The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.
I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.
If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.
HOw is that being ripped off? You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare. OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.
But your choice, I guess. Hockey isn't that popular in the south. I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.
And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game. Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30. I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis. You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.
I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.
It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.
No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.
The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.
The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.
I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.
I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.
$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.
And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN. They're AA hockey for pete's sake! Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.
Sheesh. Just don't go. There are a lot that choose not to. If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.
Call and make your voice heard. *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.
Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know. Guess what? YOU DON'T. I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way. I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games. So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.
I said hockey's not big in Tulsa. I didn't think that was some crazy, controversial idea.
Next you'll get irate for me saying college football is big in Oklahoma.
I respect your hockey fandom. I have no problem with your hockey fandom. If I were a hockey fan I'd have no beef with ticket prices.
But I'm not a hockey fan.
I'm just a guy who wants to be entertained without spending too much money. The vast majority of Tulsans are not hockey fans. You telling me you know a lot of hockey fans doesn't change that fact.
And the Drillers are far more relevant since they produce big league MVPs.
Big league MVP's that I'll never see because I won't go to Denver to watch em. Drillers lost my business when they switched from the Rangers to the Rockies. Hardly a logical move. But that's just my opinion.
BTW, I don't know a lot of baseball fans. Well, at least Driller fans.
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I can go on ebay right now and get tickets to several NHL games in various cities in the southern half of the US for $17 or less. That makes it ludicrous for the Oilers to charge that amount in an area not known for being a hockey hotbed.
And as an internet forum, this is where people come to voice their opinions.
My opinion is that certain sports organizations are charging way too much money. Oklahoma State University is one of them. The Oilers charge too much as well, but they're not anywhere near as bad as OSU.
You can usually ebay or scalp NHL tickets for $20-25. $17 for the oilers is too much for casual fans IMHO. I don't care what level they are at, they have many open seats so sell a few more "cheap" tickets. At $17 it would cost my small family of 3 more than $50 to get in the door. Another $25 on snacks etc. A $75 night isn't a cheap night out for a small family.
Movies $24 to get in an $15 for popcorn and a large pop. Not to compare the entertainment venues, but it is a choice people make. To save 50% I'm sure many people choose movies or other. Lower the price to $10 or even $8 and try to get more fans.
Fwiw, I'm a quasi hockey fan. Grew up in Iowa. My grade school had a hockey team. My high school had a hockey team. Watched my friends play, watched my home towns minor league games all the time. It is a fun night IMHO.
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I can go on ebay right now and get tickets to several NHL games in various cities in the southern half of the US for $17 or less. That makes it ludicrous for the Oilers to charge that amount in an area not known for being a hockey hotbed.
And as an internet forum, this is where people come to voice their opinions.
My opinion is that certain sports organizations are charging way too much money. Oklahoma State University is one of them. The Oilers charge too much as well, but they're not anywhere near as bad as OSU.
You're assuming I'm angry, which is ridiculous. I said I could care less. But whatever.
I'm still challenging you to call the front office if this has happened to you twice. But like I said before, I doubt you will.
I'm just saying season ticket sales that are in the 2000 range tell me that there are at least 2000 hockey fans out there in the Tulsa area. I wouldn't say that's actually irrelevant.
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.
Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.
The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.
Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.
The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.
I take it you don't watch hockey much. Either live or on TV.
I might be wrong here but isn't soccer the most popular sport in the world, not American style football? And aren't soccer and possibly hockey more popular around the world than American style football? When I watch the Olympics, there are a lot more games of soccer and hockey played for national reputation than American style football. I would much rather watch a good soccer or college level hockey game any time, the action is fast and fun for me. American football, almost as boring as a softball game. Just my take on it.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.
Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.
The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.
I take it you don't watch hockey much. Either live or on TV.
I did, years ago. I finally got fed up and decided it wasn't worth my time until the reservations that I just listed were addressed.
The NHL strike sure as hell didn't help things. That damned near killed the league, for no good reason at all. It was the most pointless and ill-advised work stoppage in pro sports history.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.
Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.
The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.
I take it you don't watch hockey much. Either live or on TV.
I did, years ago. I finally got fed up and decided it wasn't worth my time until the reservations that I just listed were addressed.
The NHL strike sure as hell didn't help things. That damned near killed the league, for no good reason at all. It was the most pointless and ill-advised work stoppage in pro sports history.
You won't get an argument on that point here. But baseball's strike took it's toll as well. It took Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire to get it rolling again.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.
Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.
The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.
They did change the 'off sides' rule a couple years ago. The 'two-line pass' off side rule was eliminated, if that is what you were referring to by the 'long pass' rule.
The puck entering the offensive zone before any offensive player is still in place as off sides.
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Originally posted by Wilbur
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.
Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.
I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.
Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.
The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.
They did change the 'off sides' rule a couple years ago. The 'two-line pass' off side rule was eliminated, if that is what you were referring to by the 'long pass' rule.
The puck entering the offensive zone before any offensive player is still in place as off sides.
I'm not. I'm referring to offsides rules in general.
Why not chuck the puck way down the ice and give the player a chance to run it down or pick it up on the rebound from the boards? You'll increase scoring chances that way. Spread the ice.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Why not chuck the puck way down the ice and give the player a chance to run it down or pick it up on the rebound from the boards? You'll increase scoring chances that way. Spread the ice.
It's called "icing".. Or at least that is how I remember it.
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Originally posted by TeeDub
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Why not chuck the puck way down the ice and give the player a chance to run it down or pick it up on the rebound from the boards? You'll increase scoring chances that way. Spread the ice.
It's called "icing".. Or at least that is how I remember it.
Yep, close enough. If you do it from behind the center red line, an icing will be called. And now, unlike the NHL and turning toward the growing trend of minor leagues/college, the 'touch up' icing rule was done away with due to injury. Now, as soon as the puck crosses the end goal line, the icing is called, as opposed to the non-icing team having to touch the puck first.
Hockey purists think that this rewards lazy teams. I tend to agree.
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Originally posted by TeeDub
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Why not chuck the puck way down the ice and give the player a chance to run it down or pick it up on the rebound from the boards? You'll increase scoring chances that way. Spread the ice.
It's called "icing".. Or at least that is how I remember it.
If a team gets the puck and slings it down to the other end so that it creates an opportunity for scoring, so be it. It's no different than a breakaway in basketball.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Originally posted by TeeDub
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Why not chuck the puck way down the ice and give the player a chance to run it down or pick it up on the rebound from the boards? You'll increase scoring chances that way. Spread the ice.
It's called "icing".. Or at least that is how I remember it.
If a team gets the puck and slings it down to the other end so that it creates an opportunity for scoring, so be it. It's no different than a breakaway in basketball.
I agree, but make the team chase the puck for it. If that team got to the puck first, before the no touch rule, they were rewarded with having the icing waived off. Now, it doesn't matter.
Not to worry, though. One league is looking at a 'hybrid icing' rule, which kind of eliminates the the no-touch, but doesn't have the propensity for injury like racing for the puck does.
The link below is for those hockey geeks who care to read.
http://www.prohockeynews.com/hockey/publish/sphl/Is_hybrid_icing_rule_the_middle_ground_printer.shtml
The 'icing' rule actually keeps the game moving and prevents the defense from constantly throwing the puck at the other end when they get pressured. It would be similar to the rule of throwing the puck off the ice when in your defensive end..... it delays the game.