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Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Townsend on December 19, 2008, 01:21:09 PM

http://www.yahoo.com/s/1004610


Mother of Palin daughter's boyfriend arrested


ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Alaska state troopers have arrested the mother of Bristol Palin's boyfriend on drug charges.

Sherry L. Johnston was arrested Thursday after troopers served a search warrant on a Wasilla home. The 42-year-old Johnston has been charged with six felony drug counts.

Troopers did not identify the drug involved in a brief mention on the agency's Web site.

Johnston is the mother of 18-year-old Levi Johnston. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP nominee for vice president, announced in September that her 18-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant and Johnston was the father.

Sherry Johnston was released from jail in Palmer on $5,000 bail.

Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Red Arrow on December 19, 2008, 01:57:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Townsend


http://www.yahoo.com/s/1004610


Mother of Palin daughter's boyfriend arrested


ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Alaska state troopers have arrested the mother of Bristol Palin's boyfriend on drug charges.

Sherry L. Johnston was arrested Thursday after troopers served a search warrant on a Wasilla home. The 42-year-old Johnston has been charged with six felony drug counts.

Troopers did not identify the drug involved in a brief mention on the agency's Web site.

Johnston is the mother of 18-year-old Levi Johnston. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP nominee for vice president, announced in September that her 18-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant and Johnston was the father.

Sherry Johnston was released from jail in Palmer on $5,000 bail.





What does this have to do with Huckabee?

Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 19, 2008, 02:07:54 PM
Because if Palin's daughters boyfriends mom was arrested, then she can't run.  I guess.  

Aren't GW's relatives always in trouble, and he himself was previously.  Same with Bill.  And Obama has close ties with at least two high profile felons we know of.

Seems like a non-issue to me.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: rwarn17588 on December 19, 2008, 02:11:50 PM
And don't forget Billy Carter.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: tim huntzinger on December 19, 2008, 02:25:17 PM
When are people gonna leave this woman alone? All the hateful hysteria has probably lead to her church being burnt down and still . . .
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: sgrizzle on December 19, 2008, 02:42:13 PM
Mother of Palin's daughter's boyfriend?

Next.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Hoss on December 19, 2008, 03:06:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger

When are people gonna leave this woman alone? All the hateful hysteria has probably lead to her church being burnt down and still . . .



Hateful?  Considering some of the crap she spewed during the campaign, it smacks a little of karma...
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Townsend on December 19, 2008, 03:37:30 PM
My point was these stories will continue for as long as the RNC is rumored to be thinking of her as a candidate.

No matter how far removed it will come up.  In the back of people's minds there will be a "someone in her family was arrested for drugs".

Huckabee was leading the Fox polls to run in 2012, Palin was 2nd.  I believe it was Fox.  That was the reason to place Huckabee on the title.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Townsend on December 19, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Mother of Palin's daughter's boyfriend?

Next.



Baby daddy momma
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Red Arrow on December 19, 2008, 06:45:17 PM
If it had been Huckabee vs. Obama, I might have considered voting for Obama.

I want the overtly religious figures out of the Republican party.  OK to be religious but don't shove your religion, any religion, in my face.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: nathanm on December 20, 2008, 04:01:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow


I want the overtly religious figures out of the Republican party.  OK to be religious but don't shove your religion, any religion, in my face.


Huckabee is one of the least offensive of the holy rollers, IMO. In general, he's not about forcing his religion on people.

While he's open about his religion, he's not nearly as annoying about it as Palin, to take one recent example. Perhaps that comes from being a preacher.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 20, 2008, 04:37:50 PM
I was reading the comments sections in a bunch of newspapers on this story. I was amazed that everyone assumed that the drug involved was meth. They just assumed that everybody was white trash.

My favorite line was that they were going to name the baby "Crystal".

The drug was oxycontin. The same one abused by Rush Limbaugh.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Red Arrow on December 20, 2008, 08:01:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nathanm

quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow


I want the overtly religious figures out of the Republican party.  OK to be religious but don't shove your religion, any religion, in my face.


Huckabee is one of the least offensive of the holy rollers, IMO. In general, he's not about forcing his religion on people.

While he's open about his religion, he's not nearly as annoying about it as Palin, to take one recent example. Perhaps that comes from being a preacher.



I still didn't care for him during the primary elections.  I don't think he would have done even as well as McCain outside of the Bible belt.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: nathanm on December 20, 2008, 09:52:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow


I still didn't care for him during the primary elections.  I don't think he would have done even as well as McCain outside of the Bible belt.


I agree with that assessment, but since the (D) win was essentially a foregone conclusion, a decent showing by Huckabee would have been a more strategically sound decision.

His biggest problem in the wingnut arm of the Republican party is that he's not enough of a wingnut. He's willing to do evil things like raise taxes when there's a concrete benefit involved.

The only place he's not essentially a centrist like Obama is abortion. (That's how he managed to get re-elected in Arkansas until term limits kicked in) If Obama gets a Supreme Court appointment or two, I'd seriously consider voting for Huckabee in '16, since my only real quarrel with him is on that subject.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Hawkins on December 21, 2008, 02:51:00 AM
I don't know why any of you guys think a far right religious type is going to represent the Republicans in 2012.

Huckabee proved in 08 that it can't happen. He got his butt kicked after the Iowa primary.

Palin was a complete moron!! She couldn't win the primary by any stretch either, without any more bad press.

I'm sorry, but outside of the Bible Belt, these two players have no more chance to win the nomination than Pat Robertson did 20 years ago.

Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: tim huntzinger on December 21, 2008, 09:09:13 AM
I think Evangelical Christians, anti-abortionists, and all other 'social conservatives' should immediately quit the GOP and let that putrifying pile of pachyderm poop fester and DIE.  Let you checkered pants country club conservatives try and win a dog catcher election without them! Ha ha ha! Good luck! I hope you guys get what you want, and those far-right whackos leave you once and for all.  That would be so great!  O how I despise the GOP! Double-crossing backstabbing forked tongue devils!
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 21, 2008, 12:26:49 PM
Tell us what you really think Tim.

I like Huckabee as a commentator. He is witty and makes good points.

I disagree with his political views and will never forget the way he treated Oklahoma on the chicken waste issues. I think he has the perfect job now...political commentator on Fox News.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: nathanm on December 21, 2008, 01:16:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins


I'm sorry, but outside of the Bible Belt, these two players have no more chance to win the nomination than Pat Robertson did 20 years ago.


Comparing Huckabee to Pat Robertson is like comparing chicken marsala to a McDonald's cheeseburger.

If the Huckster can overcome the perceptual issue that comes with being a former preacher, he'll pull a Clinton. The public persona of both is very similar, and if he can keep from thumping the bible too much he could go far.

After all, he's a former Republican governor in a heavily Democratic state. He was elected Lt. Governor when the wingnutters in NW Arkansas were much less populous. (and he looks a lot better now that he's not so rotund)
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Red Arrow on December 21, 2008, 02:19:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nathanm

After all, he's a former Republican governor in a heavily Democratic state.



Is AR actually heavily Democratic or are they just registered that way?  I only know a few folks from AR but they mostly don't talk Democratic party.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: nathanm on December 21, 2008, 05:30:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow


Is AR actually heavily Democratic or are they just registered that way?  I only know a few folks from AR but they mostly don't talk Democratic party.


Very much so, although they're conservative Democrats. Hence Democrats holding essentially all elected positions in the state executive branch, 2 of 3 federal House seats, and both Senate seats.

Basically if you're not in Arkansas' 3rd Congressional District, there aren't a lot of Republicans to be found. Outside of Fayetteville in NW Arkansas (including Fort Smith), there aren't a lot of Democrats to be found, though. They elect morons like Jim Holt and Jim Bob Duggar.

I hate theocrats, and I've seen my share of them having lived in the part of Arkansas that seems to breed them for most of my life. Huckabee may talk like one, but when push comes to shove, he only walks the walk when politically necessary, despite his claiming to believe in biblical inerrancy and a bunch of other irrational things.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: Red Arrow on December 21, 2008, 06:27:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nathanm

quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow


Is AR actually heavily Democratic or are they just registered that way?  I only know a few folks from AR but they mostly don't talk Democratic party.


Very much so, although they're conservative Democrats. Hence Democrats holding essentially all elected positions in the state executive branch, 2 of 3 federal House seats, and both Senate seats.

Basically if you're not in Arkansas' 3rd Congressional District, there aren't a lot of Republicans to be found. Outside of Fayetteville in NW Arkansas (including Fort Smith), there aren't a lot of Democrats to be found, though. They elect morons like Jim Holt and Jim Bob Duggar.

I hate theocrats, and I've seen my share of them having lived in the part of Arkansas that seems to breed them for most of my life. Huckabee may talk like one, but when push comes to shove, he only walks the walk when politically necessary, despite his claiming to believe in biblical inerrancy and a bunch of other irrational things.



So they're Democrats by tradition more so than philosophy. I think it has something to do with the Carpetbaggers after the Civil War. If they moved to the N.E., the rust belt, or west coast, they would be borderline Republicans.
Title: Another reason Huckabee will be running in '12
Post by: nathanm on December 21, 2008, 07:13:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow


So they're Democrats by tradition more so than philosophy. I think it has something to do with the Carpetbaggers after the Civil War. If they moved to the N.E., the rust belt, or west coast, they would be borderline Republicans.


Close, but not really. Their main issue with the national Dems boil down to the three Gs. As far as social programs and what not, they're Dems.