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Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: highschooljim on November 12, 2008, 10:06:29 PM
Many of you probably heard this, but there has been some controversy about the Sapulpa Herald not reporting that Barack Obama won the Presidential election. Ch. 2 did a story on it and it was picked up bu CNN. The publisher said they didn't report it because they only report "local" news, but yet their had been editorials about the Presidential election where the editor urged readers to watch an internet video of "Barack Hussein Obama" before voting, as well as insinuating that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a U.S. citizen. They also have editorials from the Chief of the Kiefer police, whose website has anti-Obama pictures and sentiment. I was just wanting some thought of people outside of Sapulpa on this issue.

Link to story (//%22http://www.kjrh.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=7a12f9bd-67c3-416d-83bd-a63e96959fae%22)

Here's a link to the Chief's website images:
http://www.creekcountybeacon.com/gallery.htm (//%22http://www.creekcountybeacon.com/gallery.htm%22)
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: guido911 on November 12, 2008, 10:49:14 PM
Hey, it's the newspaper's choice. The subscribers will determine if they screwed up.

By the way, it's no secret that Obama prevailed.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: inteller on November 13, 2008, 07:02:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by highschooljim

Many of you probably heard this, but there has been some controversy about the Sapulpa Herald not reporting that Barack Obama won the Presidential election. Ch. 2 did a story on it and it was picked up bu CNN. The publisher said they didn't report it because they only report "local" news, but yet their had been editorials about the Presidential election where the editor urged readers to watch an internet video of "Barack Hussein Obama" before voting, as well as insinuating that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a U.S. citizen. They also have editorials from the Chief of the Kiefer police, whose website has anti-Obama pictures and sentiment. I was just wanting some thought of people outside of Sapulpa on this issue.

Link to story (//%22http://www.kjrh.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=7a12f9bd-67c3-416d-83bd-a63e96959fae%22)

Here's a link to the Chief's website images:
http://www.creekcountybeacon.com/gallery.htm (//%22http://www.creekcountybeacon.com/gallery.htm%22)



yes thank you bubba for bringing this horrendous issue to bear.  It is such a cover up.  Let me guess, you were one of the ones harrassing workers going in just to do their job.  I saw your gang on channel 2 protesting.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: RecycleMichael on November 13, 2008, 07:23:15 AM
The publisher has a right to do whatever they want. It is clear that he didn't want Obama to win and didn't feel compelled to cover news that he didn't think important to his readers.

Obama's election was historic. Newspapers all over America had record sales of the issue that announced it. It sounds like a missed opportunity to me.

It seems stupid to protest a newspaper for something they didn't cover. I guess these people just really want to embarrass him.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: TUalum0982 on November 13, 2008, 07:30:37 AM
honestly, who cares?  Look at newspapers across the country.  Majority of them have an agenda and will leave out stories that don't fit their "criteria".  This is not news in my opinion.  Like RM said, he probably missed a good opportunity to make some extra coin.  No need to blow this out of proportion.  It is not some major coverup.  It isn't like we needed ANOTHER newspaper to tell us that Obama won.  It was covered well IMO.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: cannon_fodder on November 13, 2008, 08:15:45 AM
I don't really care... but I see the issue.  Not that the claim held water before, but integrity isn't a big issue.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: waterboy on November 13, 2008, 08:21:35 AM
What? You guys aren't incensed by the biased media? So cosmopolitan of you to give the press a break when it is media from Pudville who abuses their privilege. A sin of ommission is just as bad as any other.

I don't care whether he covered it or not but his local only excuse was lame. I doubt he only publishes news of local interest. He's not Tulsa People or Urban Tulsa, he's a general interest rag. The Tulsa World could have used the same excuses that it was already common knowledge.

It was so very Okie of him, and disrespectful I might add, to express his anger by not publishing headlines inconsistent with his political leanings, but like you say, its his little party. His punishment is that he will be laughed at and ridiculed by the rest of the country, but we get the coattail effect.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: TeeDub on November 13, 2008, 11:09:01 AM

I for one live in Sapulpa and I had NO idea who won the election because my local newspaper didn't do a story on it.


Oh, not really...   What a non event.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: waterboy on November 13, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TeeDub


I for one live in Sapulpa and I had NO idea who won the election because my local newspaper didn't do a story on it.


Oh, not really...   What a non event.



Its pretty well established that in this day newspapers are not a source of breaking news. Thats not the point. They do, however, provide details that aren't possible in other media. Many people still rely on them (about 40% of this market) for facts and opinion because what they print has to be defensible, ergo more credibility. That leads to better reporters and editors than other media.

This guy used his position to show disrespect for his readers and the president-elect by not even noting who won the race. Journalistically sloppy and indulgent. Even though everyone knew the results, by not repeating them he looks unprofessional. One would guess you think Time and Newsweek didn't need to put him on their covers either.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: Hometown on November 13, 2008, 12:01:51 PM
Remember Easy Rider and the toothless hillbilly with a gun at the end?  I grew up in Oklahoma and I sure recognized him.

Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: sgrizzle on November 13, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
I personally am heartbroken to hear that the beacon of modern journalism known worldwide as "The Sapulpa Herald" might be tarnished in some way. However, I am most surprised to hear that Reagan is leaving office.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: waterboy on November 13, 2008, 01:13:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hometown

Remember Easy Rider and the toothless hillbilly with a gun at the end?  I grew up in Oklahoma and I sure recognized him.





That was my cousin Earl. He didn't suffer hippies too well.[;)]
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: Gold on November 13, 2008, 01:37:02 PM
I'm not sure the Herald's publisher worried much about subscriprions before or after the election.  I know he doesn't have to worry about my subscription.  There is a journalistic integrity issue in there somewhere, but the field of journalism also has much bigger problems than what this little paper does.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: zstyles on November 13, 2008, 02:02:23 PM
I am sure time will now stand still in SAPULPA okiehoma...wowie....its a PRIVATE COMPANY I am sure you feel they SHOULD DO what you tell them to do..but that's now how it works RIGHT NOW...maybe in a year or two that will be the case..but not now...
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: grahambino on November 13, 2008, 02:26:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by zstyles

I am sure time will now stand still in SAPULPA okiehoma...wowie....its a PRIVATE COMPANY I am sure you feel they SHOULD DO what you tell them to do..but that's now how it works RIGHT NOW...maybe in a year or two that will be the case..but not now...



so, why did he weasel out and say 'we only cover local news', when that wasn't exactly the truth?

Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: inteller on November 13, 2008, 03:25:21 PM
"wasn't exactly"...?  truth either exists or it does not.  No such thing as "truthiness" unles syou watch comedy central.

the guy stated his reason and that is good enough.  if you don't like his reason don't buy his paper.  I thought it made a lot of sense.  Especially since TW was PEDDLING their paper to whomever would buy the "historic" issue.  How can you compete with that?  You don't, you just report other news that might be of interest especially local news.  hell I wish TW published more local news about Tulsa.  Most of their "local" news is police blotters and an occasional biopic about someone I have no clue about (or care).
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: Gaspar on November 13, 2008, 04:57:41 PM
Newspapers are private company's last time I checked.  Supported by advertisers and readers.  They have a right to print what they want as long as they are truthful.

Their readers and advertisers decide weather to support them or not.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE:  ALL MEDIA IS BIAS.  

The consumer simply makes a choice as to what bias they can live with.  

I also noticed that the Thrifty Nickel didn't run an Obama headline either.  [}:)]

The Tulsa Now website didn't run a headline on the front page of their site stating "Obama Wins."

McDonald's didn't have it on the front of their menus.

All private companies/organizations printing what they want to print.

Please don't suggest that someone needs to regulate what newspapers print.  I just can't take any more of this Fairness.

Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: highschooljim on November 13, 2008, 10:49:38 PM
Wow first post and looks like I already made some friends huh? Not suprised though. I agree the editor and publisher can print what they want, but when the editor urges readers to watch a "Video portrait of Barack Hussien Obama" before voting, and also insinuates that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a citizen, as well as letting a small-town cop with anti-Obama images on his website write a column, then it shouldn't be a suprise to have people picketing your offices.
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: TUalum0982 on November 14, 2008, 05:36:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by highschooljim

Wow first post and looks like I already made some friends huh? Not suprised though. I agree the editor and publisher can print what they want, but when the editor urges readers to watch a "Video portrait of Barack Hussien Obama" before voting, and also insinuates that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a citizen, as well as letting a small-town cop with anti-Obama images on his website write a column, then it shouldn't be a suprise to have people picketing your offices.




If they don't like it, then don't buy the paper, simple enough.  Let their wallets do the talking.  No need to go and picket the damn place.  People these days get upset over the smallest things.  I am pissed off that the LA Times refused to release some video they had of Obama.  I think I will go picket them in L.A.  Gaspar is right, all media is bias.  CNN and MSNBC on the left, foxnews on the right.  They all have an agenda, if you don't like it then don't read their paper, watch their shows or buy their product.  It's that simple.  I don't understand why you are making such an uproar over this.  It is not the first time a paper left something out, and it won't be the last.  Are you in high school like your name implies?
Title: Sapulpa Herald Controversy
Post by: inteller on November 14, 2008, 09:32:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by highschooljim

Wow first post and looks like I already made some friends huh? Not suprised though. I agree the editor and publisher can print what they want, but when the editor urges readers to watch a "Video portrait of Barack Hussien Obama" before voting, and also insinuates that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a citizen, as well as letting a small-town cop with anti-Obama images on his website write a column, then it shouldn't be a suprise to have people picketing your offices.



well, it hasn't been proven otherwise that Obama -wasn't- born in Kenya, but it HAS been proven that his selective service registration was at the very least tampered with, and could have been completely fabricated.  the last person that could have attested to barack's birthplace died right before the election.  what a shame.