I think John Sullivan is one of the worst politicians to ever hold office in Oklahoma. I'v known him personally for over twenty years, and consider him a fun "dude" to hang out with, but his intelligence equals that of David Walters.
Last night I watched channel 6 ask the candidates a question regarding how low the campaigns had sunk with negativity. John's answer was basically "she started it" which, if you look at the time frame it is probably true. No biggie though, his "we're not for sale" ads are pretty stupid. Georgianna's turn and her answer "It's been entertaining" along with a cackle. She also started talking about she wished she had never run for office etc. etc. My jaw hit the floor. Her tact was awful and she just seemed completely ignorant. It was really pathetic.
I have never voted for John Sullivan. I have always backed his opponents and encouraged others to do the same but at this point I am going to have to take a big bite of a sh*t sandwich and vote for him.
This election year is taking a toll on me.
Mr. Burns
Bob Barr for President
I think you and I have established we know Sully from the old days. Back then, I'm sure he would have let the air out of her tires and beaten up her BF in retaliation.
I'd changed my vote to Oliver, but after hearing about her Gene Stipe-style campaign financing, I don't think I can vote for her in good conscience.
Sullivan has his special interests, but there is zero doubt she's bringing her own special interests with her, if elected.
Our district has a history of continuing to return incumbents until they are ready to move on to something else. I'm not sure I'm ready to have Oliver as our rep for the next 10, 12 or how many years she cares to stay there.
Not to get too personal, but is the gentleman in the photo with her on her website her dad or her husband? He looks like he could be one of McCain's drinking buddies.
Because Sullivan has trampled all over innocent people to advance his career -- he is my enemy.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I've got an Oliver sign in my yard and my household will gladly cast votes for her.
It is a tough choice. She hasnt' established herself well here. He sent me a large despicable flyer whose only truth lay in the spelling of his name.
My only tipping point is that those who know or have served Sullivan and his family are deadset against him. A young man who I know served his family at a restaurant. The kids were messy, obnoxious and unrestrained, the group was demanding and THEY DIDN'T EVEN TIP!!
Advantage Oliver. We can vote her out later when someone better comes along.
I vote by looks. I'm voting for Oliver.
I have worked with Georgianna for a while discussing environmental issues and I am impressed with her. I have had ten meetings with her, discussing green collar job creation, refinery and energy issues, and alternative solutions for waste disposal and power. She asks good questions, is willing to listen. I think she sincerely wants to go to Washington to really make a difference.
I also know John Sullivan from way back, back before he ever ran for his first public office. He is likable and support recycling efforts. But he has had seven years in Washington and I can only name one thing he has done for us.
It is time to give someone else a chance.
If this election has tought me anything, is that we aren't going to get to vote on our "ideal candidates" this year. We have experienced, corrupt career politicians challenged by inexperienced people with a tendency to stumble out of the gate. Almost every politician running has issued a loan to their campaign form themselves or their business. Oliver is the only candidate taken to task over it. She sold a new software package and support staff to another company that is just started (the website for the program isn't even built yet) but yet people who don't understand intellectual property are screaming "why didn't she list it as an asset before."
Yes, much of Oliver's campaign is "i'm not Sullivan" but that does attract a large number of voters, especially given the fact he won't debate and keeps shoveling ridiculous statements out the door through flyers and commercials. He's lived in DC for 14 years and criticized Oliver for living there for five (all the while she never really left Tulsa since her business still had a major office here the whole time. Little things get to me and Sullivan's recent air mattress commercial was too ridiculous for me to vote for him for any office.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
If this election has tought me anything, is that we aren't going to get to vote on our "ideal candidates" this year. We have experienced, corrupt career politicians challenged by inexperienced people with a tendency to stumble out of the gate. Almost every politician running has issued a loan to their campaign form themselves or their business. Oliver is the only candidate taken to task over it. She sold a new software package and support staff to another company that is just started (the website for the program isn't even built yet) but yet people who don't understand intellectual property are screaming "why didn't she list it as an asset before."
Yes, much of Oliver's campaign is "i'm not Sullivan" but that does attract a large number of voters, especially given the fact he won't debate and keeps shoveling ridiculous statements out the door through flyers and commercials. He's lived in DC for 14 years and criticized Oliver for living there for five (all the while she never really left Tulsa since her business still had a major office here the whole time. Little things get to me and Sullivan's recent air mattress commercial was too ridiculous for me to vote for him for any office.
Gawd I hate to sound like I'm defening Sully, but:
He's been in DC 7 years, not 7 terms and he's been there because we voted for him to be there. John was living in the district when we first voted him in and had lived there all his life, that I'm aware of (with the exception of school, possibly).
Oliver sold her company to campaign donors from out of state. She suddenly got interested in Oklahoma Dist. 1 politics less than a year ago and seems to have a lot of out of state donors interested in seeing her get into office. This company "sale" is real fishy.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
If this election has tought me anything, is that we aren't going to get to vote on our "ideal candidates" this year. We have experienced, corrupt career politicians challenged by inexperienced people with a tendency to stumble out of the gate. Almost every politician running has issued a loan to their campaign form themselves or their business. Oliver is the only candidate taken to task over it. She sold a new software package and support staff to another company that is just started (the website for the program isn't even built yet) but yet people who don't understand intellectual property are screaming "why didn't she list it as an asset before."
Yes, much of Oliver's campaign is "i'm not Sullivan" but that does attract a large number of voters, especially given the fact he won't debate and keeps shoveling ridiculous statements out the door through flyers and commercials. He's lived in DC for 14 years and criticized Oliver for living there for five (all the while she never really left Tulsa since her business still had a major office here the whole time. Little things get to me and Sullivan's recent air mattress commercial was too ridiculous for me to vote for him for any office.
Gawd I hate to sound like I'm defening Sully, but:
He's been in DC 7 years, not 7 terms and he's been there because we voted for him to be there. John was living in the district when we first voted him in and had lived there all his life, that I'm aware of (with the exception of school, possibly).
Oliver sold her company to campaign donors from out of state. She suddenly got interested in Oklahoma Dist. 1 politics less than a year ago and seems to have a lot of out of state donors interested in seeing her get into office. This company "sale" is real fishy.
Well obviously Conan is sexist.
/sarc
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
If this election has tought me anything, is that we aren't going to get to vote on our "ideal candidates" this year. We have experienced, corrupt career politicians challenged by inexperienced people with a tendency to stumble out of the gate. Almost every politician running has issued a loan to their campaign form themselves or their business. Oliver is the only candidate taken to task over it. She sold a new software package and support staff to another company that is just started (the website for the program isn't even built yet) but yet people who don't understand intellectual property are screaming "why didn't she list it as an asset before."
Yes, much of Oliver's campaign is "i'm not Sullivan" but that does attract a large number of voters, especially given the fact he won't debate and keeps shoveling ridiculous statements out the door through flyers and commercials. He's lived in DC for 14 years and criticized Oliver for living there for five (all the while she never really left Tulsa since her business still had a major office here the whole time. Little things get to me and Sullivan's recent air mattress commercial was too ridiculous for me to vote for him for any office.
Gawd I hate to sound like I'm defening Sully, but:
He's been in DC 7 years, not 7 terms and he's been there because we voted for him to be there. John was living in the district when we first voted him in and had lived there all his life, that I'm aware of (with the exception of school, possibly).
Oliver sold her company to campaign donors from out of state. She suddenly got interested in Oklahoma Dist. 1 politics less than a year ago and seems to have a lot of out of state donors interested in seeing her get into office. This company "sale" is real fishy.
You're worried about special interest money going to oliver when she only raised about $100,000 from donors and Sullivan has something like $2.7M?
Make that $500K from donors Grizz....
I wanted to vote Sullivan out, but I think she may have even less integrity than he does, if that's possible.
I voted yesterday, but I didn't vote for Beltway Buffy. The devil we know is better than the devil we don't.
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Originally posted by Conan71
Make that $500K from donors Grizz....
I wanted to vote Sullivan out, but I think she may have even less integrity than he does, if that's possible.
Her total contirubtions listed in the world was a little over $500K and then they said $400K of her donations were loans to her campaign from evergreen.
Maybe I'm missing something, but 500 minus 400 used to equal 100.
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Originally posted by Double A
I voted yesterday, but I didn't vote for Beltway Buffy. The devil we know is better than the devil we don't.
I don't think I can vote for attack-o-matic.
The best thing is to vote incumbents out. She wants a short ride, give her one NEXT cycle but in the meantime vote for change.
So Mr. Air-Mattress cannot afford a decent place to rent in DC? Huh. Wonder where his staff stays? Under a bridge? Sounds like someone is not so much watching pennies as is unable to budget creatively. But hey, he is the best we can do! Reward that kind of galling stupidity, people, have at it!
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
The best thing is to vote incumbents out. She wants a short ride, give her one NEXT cycle but in the meantime vote for change.
So Mr. Air-Mattress cannot afford a decent place to rent in DC? Huh. Wonder where his staff stays? Under a bridge? Sounds like someone is not so much watching pennies as is unable to budget creatively. But hey, he is the best we can do! Reward that kind of galling stupidity, people, have at it!
He said he doesn't rent an apartment, he is likely staying at a hotel instead.
Double A : Perfect way to say it!
"The devil we know is better than the devil we don't"
The devil we dont know is Obama!
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by Conan71
Make that $500K from donors Grizz....
I wanted to vote Sullivan out, but I think she may have even less integrity than he does, if that's possible.
Her total contirubtions listed in the world was a little over $500K and then they said $400K of her donations were loans to her campaign from evergreen.
Maybe I'm missing something, but 500 minus 400 used to equal 100.
Uh, the same Tulsa World also said the people who bought her worthless software development company were campaign contributors. D'oh!
Add it up, it's a page out of Uncle Stipey's campaign finance book. I'm sure it's an entirely "legal" transaction on the books, but pretty strange that equated to the amount she "loaned" her campaign.
OMG..I saw the channel 6 interview and almost threw up in my mouth watching the old bag say "if I would have known how hard this would have been I never would have ran" NICE TO KNOW LADY..when the tough times start you wanna quit!
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Originally posted by Conan71
Uh, the same Tulsa World also said the people who bought her worthless software development company were campaign contributors. D'oh!
Add it up, it's a page out of Uncle Stipey's campaign finance book. I'm sure it's an entirely "legal" transaction on the books, but pretty strange that equated to the amount she "loaned" her campaign.
Here, 5 months ago, they say aptbudget is a new venture, worth nothing, that they hope may be profitable. They also say it is creating a product which they generally don't do.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20080709/ai_n27903360
Some months later, after it doesn't take off, a company that they work with that IS a product developer, takes it off their hands for an amount likely about the same as what evergreen had spent on development. That company is based in Texas and is located here:
http://www.realpage.com/
So a company tries a business venture that is out of their scope, abandons it and sells their work off to a company who does work in that scope. That is so wacky!
So instead I should assume a small software development firm in Texas, that is not regulated by the federal government, is willing to spend $400,000 to buy the affections of an underdog candidate in Oklahoma? That's a wise investment!
LOL
Georgetown Gigi's sitting across from the election board headquarters today eyeing folks as they walk in and out.
Gave my wife the creeps, and she's a Democrat!
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
The best thing is to vote incumbents out. She wants a short ride, give her one NEXT cycle but in the meantime vote for change.
So Mr. Air-Mattress cannot afford a decent place to rent in DC? Huh. Wonder where his staff stays? Under a bridge? Sounds like someone is not so much watching pennies as is unable to budget creatively. But hey, he is the best we can do! Reward that kind of galling stupidity, people, have at it!
He said he doesn't rent an apartment, he is likely staying at a hotel instead.
Got it. But he is not saying that in his ad, he says he is watching his pennies and sleeping in a closet on an air mattress. I just wonder why, and how common that is, and what his staff does to make-do. I know Congress only has a three-day work week but does his thriftiness not mean that he voted three times to raise his salary not to meet expenses but to
profit from his office?
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Got it. But he is not saying that in his ad, he says he is watching his pennies and sleeping in a closet on an air mattress. I just wonder why, and how common that is, and what his staff does to make-do. I know Congress only has a three-day work week but does his thriftiness not mean that he voted three times to raise his salary not to meet expenses but to profit from his office?
The way I heard it is "I don't keep an apartment in DC, but I do keep an air mattress in my closet" I'm sure the air mattress is for when he has to stay longer than planned or the hotels are full, nothing more.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
The best thing is to vote incumbents out. She wants a short ride, give her one NEXT cycle but in the meantime vote for change.
So Mr. Air-Mattress cannot afford a decent place to rent in DC? Huh. Wonder where his staff stays? Under a bridge? Sounds like someone is not so much watching pennies as is unable to budget creatively. But hey, he is the best we can do! Reward that kind of galling stupidity, people, have at it!
He said he doesn't rent an apartment, he is likely staying at a hotel instead.
Got it. But he is not saying that in his ad, he says he is watching his pennies and sleeping in a closet on an air mattress. I just wonder why, and how common that is, and what his staff does to make-do. I know Congress only has a three-day work week but does his thriftiness not mean that he voted three times to raise his salary not to meet expenses but to profit from his office?
Whoa! Sullivan is a closeted Republican????
I wonder if he ever hung out with Foley or Craig?
Stood in line Saturday morning to vote waiting an hour and a half, watching Paul Tey shout from his perch. You gotta love the guy's spirit no matter how deranged.
I literally almost threw up when I picked Sullivan's name.
I hope God doesn't punish me for my decision.
Mr. Burns
Bob Barr for President
He's not going to punish YOU. It's much worse:
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Got it. But he is not saying that in his ad, he says he is watching his pennies and sleeping in a closet on an air mattress. I just wonder why, and how common that is, and what his staff does to make-do. I know Congress only has a three-day work week but does his thriftiness not mean that he voted three times to raise his salary not to meet expenses but to profit from his office?
The way I heard it is "I don't keep an apartment in DC, but I do keep an air mattress in my closet" I'm sure the air mattress is for when he has to stay longer than planned or the hotels are full, nothing more.
Then he is a proven liar - AGAIN. He says he does it to watch his pennies, an illustration of his commitment to watching how 'our' tax money is used. Oh welllll.