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Where's the one where McHoover is leading us into a depression?
His shenanigans on this bailout shows what a costly leader he would be.
Besides, he's also using the opportunity to skip out on the debate......leaving the only alternative to replacing this one with the veep debate in order to get Palin out of the noose.....
See through it.....
McCain is putting country first, Obama is putting Obama first.
Obama says were are going into a depression, but isn't doing anything to try to fix it. He is voting 'Present' like he has so many times before.
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McCain is putting country first, Obama is putting Obama first.
Obama says were are going into a depression, but isn't doing anything to try to fix it. He is voting 'Present' like he has so many times before.
McCain is grandstanding, plain and simple.
"Have to rush back to Washington"..my donkey.
He bails on Letterman with a lie, then doesn't show until this morning, and obviously the joint meeting with McSameBush was a political photo-op.
Some of his aisle-mates even think he's grandstanding....
By the way, McCain has a worse attendance record in the Senate than Obama, so that crap about coming back to the Senate to save the world is hooey.
McCain is inserting presidential politics into one of the biggest crisis we have faced in decades. His assertion that he and only he can "fix" this problem, and broker an agreement is nothing but political posturing. Obama is being presidential; McCain sees an opportunity for a political ploy.
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McCain is inserting presidential politics into one of the biggest crisis we have faced in decades. His assertion that he and only he can "fix" this problem, and broker an agreement is nothing but political posturing. Obama is being presidential; McCain sees an opportunity for a political ploy.
Oh really, let's see, who just this morning characterized this financial crisis as a "security" issue? Oh yeah, that flaming right wing nut job Bill Clinton.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=181663
As far as presidential politics go, last I checked both Obama and McCain were still U.S. Senators, elected to represent their constituencies. You might think Obama is acting presidential, but McCain is acting senatorial--which is still his job.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
McCain is inserting presidential politics into one of the biggest crisis we have faced in decades. His assertion that he and only he can "fix" this problem, and broker an agreement is nothing but political posturing. Obama is being presidential; McCain sees an opportunity for a political ploy.
Oh really, let's see, who just this morning characterized this financial crisis as a "security" issue? Oh yeah, that flaming right wing nut job Bill Clinton.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=181663
As far as presidential politics go, last I checked both Obama and McCain were still U.S. Senators, elected to represent their constituencies. You might think Obama is acting presidential, but McCain is acting senatorial--which is still his job.
I disagree, McCain is the one acting like he is already POTUS. And he isn't. He wants the world to stop and go to Washington DC with him so he can play Captain America. All he is doing is mucking things up because he has no idea what needs to be done beyond taking a few pictures of himself looking presidential. And the person he has chosen as his vice-presidential cohort has no idea how to answer a few simple questions that K. Couric asks. The Republican party is hurting hard. Talking heads Pfhoutenohour or how ever you spell her name and Bounds must wake up with a headache every morning. Are we seeing our very own Titanic heading for the ice fields?
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Originally posted by Cubs
McCain is putting country first, Obama is putting Obama first.
Obama says were are going into a depression, but isn't doing anything to try to fix it. He is voting 'Present' like he has so many times before.
If you believe that, then you believe Sarah Palin when she said "Thanks, but no thanks" to the bridge to nowhere...
You really have no clue about Obama or the use of "present" votes in the state senate of Illinois.... Obama voted "present" one out of every 31 votes... that means Obama voted "present" on 3.2% of his votes in the Illinois Senate...
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/24/fact_check_obamas_present_votes/
THE SPIN: Obama portrays himself as someone voters can trust to tell the truth and skip the usual political games. Clinton and John Edwards are using his "present" votes to offer a different picture -- one of Obama ducking tough issues or refusing to support common-sense legislation.
THE FACTS: Obama acknowledges that over nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate, he voted "present" 129 times. That was out of roughly 4,000 votes he cast, so those "presents" amounted to about one of every 31 votes in his legislative career.http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=274863
The two main rivals of Illinois' U.S. Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination accused him during a debate Monday (Jan. 21) of ducking important votes by voting "present" about 130 times during his eight years in the Illinois Senate.
But Obama's former colleagues who still serve in the Illinois Capitol say that the attacks are off-base and that either Obama's opponents don't understand how things work in Springfield or they are deliberately distorting his record.
"To insinuate the 'present' vote means you're indecisive, that you don't have the courage to hold public office, that's a stretch. But, it's good politics," said state Rep. Bill Black (R), a 22-year veteran of the House and his party's floor leader.http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html
Just to recap the sequence of the past two weeks:
1. McCain says the fundamentals of the economy are strong. Doesn't go over so well.
2. McCain says as president he would fire Cox, even though a president can't really do that, and conservatives really like Cox.
3. McCain says he agrees in principal to the Paulson proposal.
4. McCain admits he hasn't read the three-page proposal by Paulson.
5. McCain says the economy is in crises and he is suspending his campaign to go help resolve the situation.
6. The Senate reaches an bipartisan agreement in principal to rescue the American economy.
7. McCain arrives at Washington.
8. The agreement falls apart.
Last but not least, Washington Mutual, largest bank failure occurs.
Good job, McCain. Way to be presidential--like Bush, only worse.
Where in the world is Sarah Palin during all of this......?
She has the experience of managing the budget of Alaska right..?
Let's hear from Sarah...! What ideas does she have.??
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I forgot..... Sarah just gives good face
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Just to recap the sequence of the past two weeks:
1. McCain says the fundamentals of the economy are strong. Doesn't go over so well.
2. McCain says as president he would fire Cox, even though a president can't really do that, and conservatives really like Cox.
3. McCain says he agrees in principal to the Paulson proposal.
4. McCain admits he hasn't read the three-page proposal by Paulson.
5. McCain says the economy is in crises and he is suspending his campaign to go help resolve the situation.
6. The Senate reaches an bipartisan agreement in principal to rescue the American economy.
7. McCain arrives at Washington.
8. The agreement falls apart.
Last but not least, Washington Mutual, largest bank failure occurs.
Good job, McCain. Way to be presidential--like Bush, only worse.
Add in 5. A. Campaign suspension amounts to cancelling a single interview on Letterman. Other interviews, speeches, surrogate appearances, and ad buys continue on unabated.
Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't give a f___ who you are, but if you're a senator you need to be in DC right now working on the bailout. Extra-curriculars come second. While I think McCain is over-dramatizing, I think Obama is no more right in the matter.
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Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't give a f___ who you are, but if you're a senator you need to be in DC right now working on the bailout. Extra-curriculars come second. While I think McCain is over-dramatizing, I think Obama is no more right in the matter.
Hmm...last I checked (last night) he WAS in DC.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't give a f___ who you are, but if you're a senator you need to be in DC right now working on the bailout. Extra-curriculars come second. While I think McCain is over-dramatizing, I think Obama is no more right in the matter.
Hmm...last I checked (last night) he WAS in DC.
I haven't GPS tagged both candidates, just saying that now is not the time to be "too busy to participate" in your real job.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't give a f___ who you are, but if you're a senator you need to be in DC right now working on the bailout. Extra-curriculars come second. While I think McCain is over-dramatizing, I think Obama is no more right in the matter.
Hmm...last I checked (last night) he WAS in DC.
I haven't GPS tagged both candidates, just saying that now is not the time to be "too busy to participate" in your real job.
I agree with you. But now is also not the time for political grand-standing. Even members of his own party intonate he's a distraction.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't give a f___ who you are, but if you're a senator you need to be in DC right now working on the bailout. Extra-curriculars come second. While I think McCain is over-dramatizing, I think Obama is no more right in the matter.
Hmm...last I checked (last night) he WAS in DC.
I haven't GPS tagged both candidates, just saying that now is not the time to be "too busy to participate" in your real job.
I know, maybe Obama should have held a press conference to announce he was GOING TO WASHINGTON like McCain did so he could announce his presence with authority.
One is playing politics and grandstanding and one showed up at the Whitehouse without fanfare. You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
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You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
Any Senator NOT in Washington until this settled is NOT doing their JOB. People elected them to be Senators, not to run for POTUS. Campaigning is NOT their JOB. If a deal is not reached today, other members of Congress currently up for election will have to stay in DC and delay campaigning.
So should they.
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You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
Any Senator NOT in Washington until this settled is NOT doing their JOB. People elected them to be Senators, not to run for POTUS. Campaigning is NOT their JOB. If a deal is not reached today, other members of Congress currently up for election will have to stay in DC and delay campaigning.
So should they.
So, is saying 'I support what the members of my party have put forth' (paraphrasing) doing your job?
That kind of crap can be done on the phone or via a presser. Sounds to me like political grandstanding.
Surprise, surprise
When you support the proposal that your party is putting forth, saying that you support that proposal sounds like common sense.
What would you have liked him to do? Pull out a gun and start demanding people support a proposal they don't believe in?
These two yahoos are only PART of the process, they DONT sit at the head of the table. There is a president still in office if you recall, and if I remember correctly I think I saw him in the room yesterday.
BTW, what epiphany did Obama bring to the discussion yesterday?
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BTW, what epiphany did Obama bring to the discussion yesterday?
Probably "Mr. President, calm down, turn it over, the proposal is written on the other side of that piece of paper.
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BTW, what epiphany did Obama bring to the discussion yesterday?
Probably "Mr. President, calm down, turn it over, the proposal is written on the other side of that piece of paper.
Okay, now that's funny, I don't care who you are.
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You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
Any Senator NOT in Washington until this settled is NOT doing their JOB. People elected them to be Senators, not to run for POTUS. Campaigning is NOT their JOB. If a deal is not reached today, other members of Congress currently up for election will have to stay in DC and delay campaigning.
So should they.
Are you wanting them to go to Washington and stand around doing nothing until a compromise makes it out of committee for them to vote on? THAT'LL be an effective use of time and energy.
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by iplaw
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You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
Any Senator NOT in Washington until this settled is NOT doing their JOB. People elected them to be Senators, not to run for POTUS. Campaigning is NOT their JOB. If a deal is not reached today, other members of Congress currently up for election will have to stay in DC and delay campaigning.
So should they.
Are you wanting them to go to Washington and stand around doing nothing until a compromise makes it out of committee for them to vote on? THAT'LL be an effective use of time and energy.
They were asked by the President and Paulson to be involved in the process. Will they dominate the discussions, of course not. Will they be involved in other ways? Only time will tell
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Originally posted by iplaw
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You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
Any Senator NOT in Washington until this settled is NOT doing their JOB. People elected them to be Senators, not to run for POTUS. Campaigning is NOT their JOB. If a deal is not reached today, other members of Congress currently up for election will have to stay in DC and delay campaigning.
So should they.
Are you wanting them to go to Washington and stand around doing nothing until a compromise makes it out of committee for them to vote on? THAT'LL be an effective use of time and energy.
If the President asks you to be involved in a major policy discussion, you do it.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by iplaw
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You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
Any Senator NOT in Washington until this settled is NOT doing their JOB. People elected them to be Senators, not to run for POTUS. Campaigning is NOT their JOB. If a deal is not reached today, other members of Congress currently up for election will have to stay in DC and delay campaigning.
So should they.
So, is saying 'I support what the members of my party have put forth' (paraphrasing) doing your job?
That kind of crap can be done on the phone or via a presser. Sounds to me like political grandstanding.
Surprise, surprise
Wow, Bush sure didn't get any of that kind of consideration from Dims on 9/11 or Katrina.
"Fly him into harms way just so he can be another God Damn distraction in the midst of a real crisis!"
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by iplaw
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You tell me who is doing his job and who is not.
Any Senator NOT in Washington until this settled is NOT doing their JOB. People elected them to be Senators, not to run for POTUS. Campaigning is NOT their JOB. If a deal is not reached today, other members of Congress currently up for election will have to stay in DC and delay campaigning.
So should they.
Are you wanting them to go to Washington and stand around doing nothing until a compromise makes it out of committee for them to vote on? THAT'LL be an effective use of time and energy.
If the President asks you to be involved in a major policy discussion, you do it.
I can still barely remember when the office commanded respect, regardless who the bozo was sitting in the Oval Office. [;)]