The Republican presidential hopeful called Obama before he made the statement and told him he was going to suspend his campaign, according to a McCain senior adviser.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26872907/
I know, I know...he won't really but I thought it was a fun subject line.
Man, you beat me to it!
How quaint. All the republican legislators are in a tizzy till they figure out who is their real leader...Bush or McCain. Most everyone else is sitting back trying to figure out the best way to cover their butts. A few like Shumer who wants to dole out the money in parcels and see if it works and a few real maverick republicans continue to work on the best way to proceed for the country.
If republicans follow Mac, and he continues to be against it, they look like obstructionists who won't act to protect their country. If he continues to be against it and they follow Bush, they are at risk in the fall for following the lead of an unpopular President. Of course a negotiated compromise bill is going to pass so they can then blame an unpopular president and a liberal Democratic party. Great political stuff here. Cynical and self serving.
If Mac decides to support the bailout he suffers the wrath of true conservatives who want Wall Street to suffer and Dems to take the blame. Those who then follow him face that wrath this fall as well. Quite a quandary, but not to worry, Mac has a plan.
McCain scores well on this one by default. The important thing for his campaign is that this decision in his party...IS ALL ABOUT HIM! Screw the country! He'll transfer that attention and use it to rally the party behind the "Maverick". Even though Obama was the first candidate to suggest that CEO pay be limited and loans in foreclosure rewritten in any bill, look for Mac to steal that just like he did the change mantra. AND, by stopping the debate and grandstanding in the Senate, he'll take credit for a compromise even though Dems and Republicans in both houses are already negotiating with the President and have a bill that Bush will sign. What a guy.
While they all play Mexican Sweat Poker with our money, the country holds their breath.
Ok: It's interesting on the face of it, and succeeds in doing what Palin's selection did, which is completely change the momentum of the campaign (and just in time, too: McCain's numbers are really starting to sag). So that's a plus for him there. But I'm not really sure what he hopes to accomplish in Washington that isn't already being done. Congress is hashing through the biggest bank bailout in history, and they're being remarkably bipartisan about it. Of course, that's bipartisan in skewering Paulson's plan, but who's counting?
What a surprise.
McCain actually wants to do his job and be a part of solving this mess. He's a sentaor in a closely divided senate. Every vote counts at this point, Obama's included.
Obama's clearly not interested in voting because it's too risky and since too many people are watching he can't vote present. He's running from his duty to help guide America through this mess.
The debate Friday night can and should be postponed. No one is going to give a rat's donkey if the debate happens a few days later. If conventions can be postponed due to a natural disaster, a debate can be postponed for a financial crisis.
Obama better get on board with this or he's going to look foolish and selfish.
I think regardless of what Obama does, McCain needs to stick to his guns and skip the debate if they won't budge. Let Obama answer the typical hard hitting questions he gets from the MSM like, "What's your favorite movie" or "What's your favorite color" or "Boxers or briefs"
Or better yet, let him and Biden debate one another. They don't seem to agree about much lately.
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Originally posted by iplaw
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Obama better get on board with this or he's going to look foolish and selfish.
Or so say Republicans.
You can look at it both ways. McCain suspends his campaign because his poll numbers are dropping, so he's calling a time out.
On the other hand, Obama wants to continue on AND have dialog.
Since when does being a multitasker make you look 'foolish and selfish'? I guarantee you if the shoe were on the other foot, you'd be sayin' 'Obama's just stallin'. Right?
Either decision is going to be spun for political gain by BOTH parties. Who reached out first, though? Obama?
A sentaor can't possibly divide time between passing historic legislation in a 4 day time crunch and run a campaign. I know Obama thinks he's the Lord Messiah and can do it all, but I expect the undivided attention of these jackasses when they're asking for 700 billion dollars of our money.
Hmmm, looks like Bush might have been right and obstructionist Democrats got this one wrong...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
September 11, 2003
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt -- is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
''There is a general recognition that the supervisory system for housing-related government-sponsored enterprises neither has the tools, nor the stature, to deal effectively with the current size, complexity and importance of these enterprises,'' Treasury Secretary John W. Snow told the House Financial Services Committee in an appearance with Housing Secretary Mel Martinez, who also backed the plan....
(edited for brevity, full story is linked)
....Fannie Mae, which was previously known as the Federal National Mortgage Association, and Freddie Mac, which was the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, have been criticized by rivals for exerting too much influence over their regulators.
''The regulator has not only been outmanned, it has been outlobbied,'' said Representative Richard H. Baker, the Louisiana Republican who has proposed legislation similar to the administration proposal and who leads a subcommittee that oversees the companies. ''Being underfunded does not explain how a glowing report of Freddie's operations was released only hours before the managerial upheaval that followed. This is not world-class regulatory work.''
Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,'' Mr. Watt said.
Barney Frank and Mel Watt, I salute you... nothing to see here.... [:o)]
Here's a summary of the policy issues:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/whose-policies-led-to-the-credit-crisis/
Our lovely congress has tacked billions in earmarks to this financial bailout plan. Pelosi wants her new museum, and all of her goblins want their pets fed too.
If they continue like this and the bill goes into a long debate we will melt down.
It's commendable what McCain has chosen to do. He has always been the most successful member of congress for working across party lines, and perhaps he can help them come to some solution.
Pelosi and Reed are not going to bend, so it may be necessary to pay their blackmail to get a solution passed. Either way, someone needs to be there and take control of this congress or we all suffer.
A desperate joke..Ha Ha.....fun to see McLame try to put on his Superman costume to save the economy (something he knows nothing about).
He gets roasted for this....The devil knows this to be true. He is a loser. Doomed.
He had everything to lose and nothing to gain by debating.
Ya'll posters need to get on with reality.
HAIL MARY!
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Originally posted by Gaspar
Our lovely congress has tacked billions in earmarks to this financial bailout plan. Pelosi wants her new museum, and all of her goblins want their pets fed too.
If they continue like this and the bill goes into a long debate we will melt down.
It's commendable what McCain has chosen to do. He has always been the most successful member of congress for working across party lines, and perhaps he can help them come to some solution.
Pelosi and Reed are not going to bend, so it may be necessary to pay their blackmail to get a solution passed. Either way, someone needs to be there and take control of this congress or we all suffer.
Source?
Chickensh*t.....all of you wingnutz.
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Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar
Our lovely congress has tacked billions in earmarks to this financial bailout plan. Pelosi wants her new museum, and all of her goblins want their pets fed too.
If they continue like this and the bill goes into a long debate we will melt down.
It's commendable what McCain has chosen to do. He has always been the most successful member of congress for working across party lines, and perhaps he can help them come to some solution.
Pelosi and Reed are not going to bend, so it may be necessary to pay their blackmail to get a solution passed. Either way, someone needs to be there and take control of this congress or we all suffer.
Source?
Yeah, what conan said.
McCain Camp is trying to deep six the VP Debate out of fears that Palin will be a disaster. So, they are using this trumped Up "McCain Must be in D.C." excuse to say the First Presidential Debate should replace the VP Debate. A major poll today showed Palin as a major drag on the ticket and McCain is losing a point or two each day the economy is the headline story. So, they can't afford a Palin disaster. Pretty cynical.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-camp-to-propose-postponing-vp-debate/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080924/ap_on_el_pr/mccain;_ylt=Avk.Ukh9v4TArXMhiyBUkFSs0NUE
"With respect to the debates," Obama said in Tampa, Fla., where he is preparing for the debate Friday night, "it is my belief that this exactly time that the American people need to hear from the person who, within 40 days, will be responsible for this mess... It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one problem at once....In my mind, it's more important than ever that we try to present ourselves to the American people."
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/mccain_postpone_debate_for_cri.html
41 daze to go for McSame. Will he chant "Mission Accomplished!?"
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Originally posted by iplaw
What a surprise.
McCain actually wants to do his job and be a part of solving this mess. He's a sentaor in a closely divided senate. Every vote counts at this point, Obama's included.
Obama's clearly not interested in voting because it's too risky and since too many people are watching he can't vote present. He's running from his duty to help guide America through this mess.
The debate Friday night can and should be postponed. No one is going to give a rat's donkey if the debate happens a few days later. If conventions can be postponed due to a natural disaster, a debate can be postponed for a financial crisis.
Obama better get on board with this or he's going to look foolish and selfish.
As we all know confession is good for the soul.
I guess it is my time.
"I am a whiner and the economy is actually in very sound shape."
Why should we give money to bail out the Wall Street Executives if we can't give them a "tax-cut" to go with it...?
That is the definition of true intelligence and foresight.....
Vote for cracker and white cake the obvious superior choices.
I love watching Repubs and their water-carriers spin a horrible decision (suspending the campaign after taking a beating in the polls, ask to postpone the debate) at all costs.
This may hurt McCain much more than he realizes. How can you vote for a guy who can't multitask?
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw
A sentaor can't possibly divide time between passing historic legislation in a 4 day time crunch and run a campaign. I know Obama thinks he's the Lord Messiah and can do it all, but I expect the undivided attention of these jackasses when they're asking for 700 billion dollars of our money.
Get out the Dramamine...
[:O]
You forgot to say "Koolaid drinker." Do you every have anything substantive to say, or are you nothing more than a liberal chatty kathy doll? Pull string, get bullsh$t quote.
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Originally posted by iplaw
You forgot to say "Koolaid drinker." Do you every have anything substantive to say, or are you nothing more than a liberal chatty kathy doll? Pull string, get bullsh$t quote.
This from the guy that for years has been telling us what a great job Bush is doing.
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Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw
You forgot to say "Koolaid drinker." Do you every have anything substantive to say, or are you nothing more than a liberal chatty kathy doll? Pull string, get bullsh$t quote.
This from the guy that for years has been telling us what a great job Bush is doing.
But it's not really fair to call IPLAW or Guido or Gaspar or Conan "koolaid drinkers" when they've been making lotsa koolaid lately... lawyers always make the best koolaid, ya know...
pity.
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Originally posted by USRufnex
quote:
Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw
You forgot to say "Koolaid drinker." Do you every have anything substantive to say, or are you nothing more than a liberal chatty kathy doll? Pull string, get bullsh$t quote.
This from the guy that for years has been telling us what a great job Bush is doing.
But it's not really fair to call IPLAW or Guido or Gaspar or Conan "koolaid drinkers" when they've been making lotsa koolaid lately... lawyers always make the best koolaid, ya know...
pity.
Oh boy. Here comes the guy pulling the string on the liberal chatty kathy doll.
Here's one for the Hoooyeee Paloyeeeee:
(http://pictures.howbits.com/wp-content/uploads/soccerball-accident.jpg)
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Originally posted by iplaw
You forgot to say "Koolaid drinker." Do you every have anything substantive to say, or are you nothing more than a liberal chatty kathy doll? Pull string, get bullsh$t quote.
Back atcha, repubcounsel.
How about your substantive post on BidenGaffe?
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss
I love watching Repubs and their water-carriers spin a horrible decision (suspending the campaign after taking a beating in the polls, ask to postpone the debate) at all costs.
This may hurt McCain much more than he realizes. How can you vote for a guy who can't multitask?
It's not about multitasking as the Lord Messiah would have you to believe. Nor is the prudent response, "you've got my number" when we're in the middle of a crisis.
True leaders move towards the problem instinctively and actively engage in the process. Losers ride the pine and wait to be told what to do.
Yeah, cuz the best way to be bi-partisan is to suspend your campaign and pretend you're gonna bring everyone together a month before an important presidential election... [:o)]
I think that's about the umpteenth time you've used that pic, IPLAW....
If you want to talk about someone who wants to be a POLITICAL MESSIAH....
here's one for ya, ippy....
Sarah Palin Gets Protection From Witches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4HIc-yfgM
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Originally posted by USRufnex
Yeah, cuz the best way to be bi-partisan is to suspend your campaign and pretend you're gonna bring everyone together a month before an important presidential election... [:o)]
I think that's about the umpteenth time you've used that pic, IPLAW....
If you want to talk about someone who wants to be a POLITICAL MESSIAH....
here's one for ya, ippy....
Sarah Palin Gets Protection From Witches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4HIc-yfgM
Yeah, but she understands the Hoiiiiieeee Paloieeeeiiii!!!!!!!!!!
Get some oil on that Ipsqueaky....squeak squeak
What's the problem here? I am very much in favor of McCain suspending his campaign. More razzle-dazzle Senator! We just love it when you're so impulsive, rash and narcissistic..er...Maverick. Yes we do.
I think he should suspend it for about three weeks then cancel it.
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Originally posted by FOTD
McCain Camp is trying to deep six the VP Debate out of fears that Palin will be a disaster. So, they are using this trumped Up "McCain Must be in D.C." excuse to say the First Presidential Debate should replace the VP Debate. A major poll today showed Palin as a major drag on the ticket and McCain is losing a point or two each day the economy is the headline story. So, they can't afford a Palin disaster. Pretty cynical.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-camp-to-propose-postponing-vp-debate/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080924/ap_on_el_pr/mccain;_ylt=Avk.Ukh9v4TArXMhiyBUkFSs0NUE
"With respect to the debates," Obama said in Tampa, Fla., where he is preparing for the debate Friday night, "it is my belief that this exactly time that the American people need to hear from the person who, within 40 days, will be responsible for this mess... It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one problem at once....In my mind, it's more important than ever that we try to present ourselves to the American people."
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/mccain_postpone_debate_for_cri.html
41 daze to go for McSame. Will he chant "Mission Accomplished!?"
Why would they want to cancel the VP debate??? Maybe they are afraid of another response like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvUsdmqGYV8
Huh??
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss
I love watching Repubs and their water-carriers spin a horrible decision (suspending the campaign after taking a beating in the polls, ask to postpone the debate) at all costs.
This may hurt McCain much more than he realizes. How can you vote for a guy who can't multitask?
I think it's pretty noble. McCain realizes he's still on the SENATE payroll and as such has an obligation to the country which should take priority over his political aspirations. FWIW, I've said all along that U.S. Senators and members of the USHOR should be required to resign their seat to run for higher office. It's a taxpayer rip-off and they wind up being on the payroll, continue to rack up tenure on their pension and to recieve all other benefits whilst negleting their day job.
McCain's decision comes at the peril of losing the election in November. I think it speaks volumes about really caring about big issues and not paying lip service to it at a time when decisive actions and not mealy-mouthed speeches are in order.
Personally, I can't vote for a guy who has been running for President since he was in high school. Honestly, this is where experience is starting to show as real benefit on McCain's part. Biden ought to be in DC right now as well if he is not. These men have a job to do. The election will still be there Nov. 4.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Huh??
Almost as bad as this rank amateur:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACmxd2ZVkLM
Touche` [;)]
I call BS.
Noble?!? Are you kidding?
Good god, what do you think a Republican presidential candidate is going to accomplish a month before the election????... the same guy who flip-flopped on the Bush tax cuts... the same guy who pushes deregulation uber alles... who thinks Phil Gramm is a great guy, especially on economics policies...
Politics over country.
The very same reason he chose Sarah Palin.
He's consistently choosing politics over his country... and using the same Karl Rove-style campaign that completely belies his 2000 primary run against Bush... fire up the koolaid drinking base... unbelievable...
Completely and utterly political... if you don't believe me, I have a bridge in Alaska for you...
Compare McCain2000 to McCain2008... rinse... repeat...
total bs.
Couldn't resist...
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2ecmexl.jpg)
If Obama'd had the cajones to do it instead of McCain, you guys and gals would be peeing yourselves with all sorts of patriotic clap trap and glee right now.
That's a hillarious photo, Hoss. I'm adding it to my collection.
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
If Obama'd had the cajones to do it instead of McCain, you guys and gals would be peeing yourselves with all sorts of patriotic clap trap and glee right now.
That's a hillarious photo, Hoss. I'm adding it to my collection.
And conversely, you guys would be doing cartwheels saying how Obama couldn't multitask.
I say this has little to do with wanting to really do the right thing, but everything to do with appearing to do the right thing while trying to 'take a breath' because the McCain campaign is floundering a bit. This time, it appears the media ain't bitin'.
And now it appears there are talks about canceling or postponing the veep debate. Isn't that convenient?
This is too good. The train to the Presidency leads right through him....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E&eurl
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
Huh??
Almost as bad as this rank amateur:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACmxd2ZVkLM
Touche` [;)]
Touche? If you say so. I think I could make any candidate look bad if I spliced together a bunch of stuff. If the point is that Obama pauses a lot when he speaks, then I agree. I would rather him pause then to speak thoughtlessly (when is McCain going to fire the head of the FEC?[;)]).
I am sure that all of the candidates have said some stupid stuff on the trail. I just thought the one of Palin (who of course knows more than anyone about energy) talking gibberish was humorous.
You do have to wonder, though, if McCain's campaign is concerned about her ability to speak. They keep her constantly sequestered, and now are trying to postpone her debate. What are they afraid of?
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Originally posted by pmcalk
You do have to wonder, though, if McCain's campaign is concerned about her ability to speak. They keep her constantly sequestered, and now are trying to postpone her debate. What are they afraid of?
More Saturday Night Live fodder or an episode like the Jr. Miss "Well in The Iraq...."
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I am not sure McCain knows how to get to D.C.
He has missed 109 out of the last 110 votes. No other member has missed as many votes as him.
He is not on any committees that are involved in finance and his party won't be drafting the agreement.
There will be an agreement today and it will be signed by the President. McCain has nothing to do with it.
He is flying to Washington so he can act like he is involved. He is suspending his campaign because he and his VP candidate are not prepared for the debates and he needs to save his money hoping that he can launch an October surprise on Obama.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I am not sure McCain knows how to get to D.C.
He has missed 109 out of the last 110 votes. No other member has missed as many votes as him.
He is not on any committees that are involved in finance and his party won't be drafting the agreement.
How many votes has Obama been present for in the last 1.5 years?
How do you know who is drafting the agreement or how it's being drafted? Are you invovled?
Furthermore, even Bill Clinton is saying McCain's choice to delay the debate was in "good faith"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html
You guys are delusional. The guy that's been begging the Lord Messiah to debate for 6 motnhs now is somehow afraid of the Teleprompter reader?
Yes. Iplaw. I do know.
Obama has missed 48% of his votes since running for President. McCain has missed 64%.
Yes, I do know who is drafting the agreement. Democrat Barney Frank has been working with Secretary Paulson. Here is a link to the committee's work.
http://financialservices.house.gov/
Iplaw...you are the one who is uninformed. You just want to attack all democrats, but this time the democrats are coming up with the solutions.
President Bush invited McCain and Obama to be involved. The committee doesn't need them to be, but the American public needs to have confidence in the solution. Involving the two of them makes sense from a political perspective.
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Originally posted by iplawYou guys are delusional. The guy that's been begging the Lord Messiah to debate for 6 motnhs now is somehow afraid of the Teleprompter reader?
IP--do you know how to count? Six months ago was March. Obama didn't get the nomination until June.
McCain hasn't been begging to debate. He's been begging to do "townhalls" because he knows that, with any other format, McCain will lose big time.
You think Frank wrote that draft by himself? Get real. Put down the crack pipe. The DEMOCRATS AREN'T WORKING ALONE on this.
The final bill will be a conglomeration of the president's proposal and Congress' counter proposal. The bill, like all others will have admendments added by opposing party members, else they won't have enough consensus to pass the bill.
The president will have his say as well as both democrats and republicans. Even Reid was quoted as saying the final bill is worthless without republican support.
Democrats aren't the lone ranger in this process.
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
quote:
Originally posted by iplawYou guys are delusional. The guy that's been begging the Lord Messiah to debate for 6 motnhs now is somehow afraid of the Teleprompter reader?
IP--do you know how to count? Six months ago was March. Obama didn't get the nomination until June.
McCain hasn't been begging to debate. He's been begging to do "townhalls" because he knows that, with any other format, McCain will lose big time.
He has been asking Obama to do town hall meetings since he was the presumptive nominee, quite some time before he was nominated at the convention, but this isn't the first time I've had to point this out. Maybe it was more like almost 5 months (//%22http://www.slate.com/id/2191302/%22)...BEWARE: Slate defines townhall meetings as debates.
Townhalls are debates, unless you have a VERY strange and narrow definition of the term. Questions posed by real people and not moderators are the only difference.
In fact, one of the debates is a townhall, and I suspect it will be indistinguishable from the rest of the debates, sans the annoying moderators asking questions.
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Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
quote:
Originally posted by iplawYou guys are delusional. The guy that's been begging the Lord Messiah to debate for 6 motnhs now is somehow afraid of the Teleprompter reader?
IP--do you know how to count? Six months ago was March. Obama didn't get the nomination until June.
McCain hasn't been begging to debate. He's been begging to do "townhalls" because he knows that, with any other format, McCain will lose big time.
He has been asking Obama to do town hall meetings since he was the presumptive nominee, quite some time before he was nominated at the convention, but this isn't the first time I've had to point this out. Maybe it was more like almost 5 months (//%22http://www.slate.com/id/2191302/%22)...BEWARE: Slate defines townhall meetings as debates.
Townhalls are debates, unless you have a VERY strange and narrow definition of the term. Questions posed by real people and not moderators are the only difference.
In fact, one of the debates is a townhall, and I suspect it will be indistinguishable from the rest of the debates, sans the annoying moderators asking questions.
I disagree.
The town hall will be different. That format requires having a vast knowledge of the issues and solutions at your fingertips which comes from experience, not ideology, because it is far more random than fielding predictable questions from the MSM's.
Oops. You're correct. I'm sure McCain is afraid of any debate at this point...
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I have another question. When reporters quote Obama during the debates are they going to have to print his words in red letter?
Deal reach on a bailout.
Good news, now McCain can restart his campaign and turn his monocle to the debate.
(http://www.magicfitz.com/clink%20close%20up.jpg)
Too bad the impasse didn't last long enough to help McCain's "suspended" (failing) campaign.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/[img]http:
McCain is going to attend the debate.
Gee I hope they take the opportunity to point at one another tonight and tell the American people that it was the other guy's fault.
dudebag or Turd Sandwich?
(http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/6520/giantdudevsturdsandwich7om.jpg)
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Originally posted by FOTD
This is too good. The train to the Presidency leads right through him....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E&eurl
Last nights follow up.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcraxzVb09w&eurl
McCrazy makes me feel sullied too (so does Rep. Sully).....