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Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on September 16, 2008, 07:21:14 AM
TelePrompTer for president.

Put it on the ticket.

Obama's teleprompter hits the trail
Posted: 06:50 PM ET

Obama delivered his remarks at the Colorado State Fair of a teleprompter.

(CNN) — It appears Barack Obama's teleprompter is hitting the campaign trail.

The Democratic presidential nominee has never tried to hide the fact he delivers speeches off the device, though normally he doesn't use one at standard campaign rallies and town hall events.

But the Illinois senator used a teleprompter at both his Colorado events Monday — making for a particularly peculiar scene in Pueblo, where the prompter was set up in the middle of what is normally a rodeo ring.

Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Townsend on September 16, 2008, 08:58:58 AM
I'd imagine everyone is using anything they can to keep from being mis-quoted or using unfortunate verbage that can be turned around by the other side.

It could mean the difference for both campaigns.
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: iplaw on September 16, 2008, 09:12:49 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2634281602_784b2ac876.jpg?v=0)
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: CoffeeBean on September 16, 2008, 09:46:58 AM
The Evil Telepromptor (//%22http://juxtaposably.blogspot.com/2008/09/evil-telepromptor.html%22)
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Hoss on September 16, 2008, 09:55:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CoffeeBean

The Evil Telepromptor (//%22http://juxtaposably.blogspot.com/2008/09/evil-telepromptor.html%22)



Guess it works both ways.

I remember seeing some of the pundits during the RNC note about McCain's 'telepromptering'.
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: waterboy on September 16, 2008, 10:07:42 AM
We could drop teleprompters altogether like GB did during debates. Just hook up a receiving device in the back of his suit and send the speech from a control room.

Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: iplaw on September 16, 2008, 10:48:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

We could drop teleprompters altogether like GB did during debates. Just hook up a receiving device in the back of his suit and send the speech from a control room.



Where do you buy your tinfoil hats?  [;)]
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Conan71 on September 16, 2008, 10:51:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

We could drop teleprompters altogether like GB did during debates. Just hook up a receiving device in the back of his suit and send the speech from a control room.





Obama needs to get a different tailor, he's always got a string hanging off the back of his empty suit with a little ring on it.

Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on September 16, 2008, 10:58:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

We could drop teleprompters altogether like GB did during debates. Just hook up a receiving device in the back of his suit and send the speech from a control room.





Obama needs to get a different tailor, he's always got a string hanging off the back of his empty suit with a little ring on it.





That's the "Hope for the Change" string.

Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: FOTD on September 16, 2008, 11:27:54 AM
Babel thread.....don't vote for the smart black guy. Instead vote for the sick old mean and angry white guy and his know nothing veep.

Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: RecycleMichael on September 16, 2008, 12:06:06 PM
note to FOTD...

You ain't helping.
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on September 16, 2008, 03:54:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

note to FOTD...

You ain't helping.



Sure he's helping!

I've decided "a friend of the devil is a friend of mine."

[}:)]



Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on September 19, 2008, 01:55:30 PM
Here is Obama today sans teleprompter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ9vYCEjXeM

Memo to Barry:  You have three debates coming up.
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on September 19, 2008, 02:00:48 PM
Here's Linus again without his blanket:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on September 19, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

Here's Linus again without his blanket:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc



Wow.  They better get that thing fixed for the debates.

Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Conan71 on September 19, 2008, 02:47:32 PM
I thought he quit smoking dope when he was going to school at Columbia...

Wow, that's awful.  Maybe they just didn't pull the string all the way out.



Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on September 19, 2008, 02:57:21 PM
LOL
There's actually a website.
http://www.teleprompterpresident.com/

TELEPROMPTER FOR PRESIDENT 08'
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on September 19, 2008, 03:04:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

LOL
There's actually a website.
http://www.teleprompterpresident.com/

TELEPROMPTER FOR PRESIDENT 08'



That website is hillarious!
Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Conan71 on September 19, 2008, 03:46:36 PM
I can't find the actual scene shot from Goodfellas but when he goes off teleprompter I'm reminded of Joe Pesci:

"You stuttering Prick!"

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/goodfellas/_group_photos/joe_pesci2.jpg)

Title: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on September 19, 2008, 04:19:27 PM
Oh I can't wait for the debates.  

You all have a good weekend!

Time for a little BBQin.


(http://images.cafepress.com/product/307869730v3_240x240_Front.jpg)
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on March 24, 2009, 12:42:27 PM
Obama's teleprompter has its own blog:

http://baracksteleprompter.blogspot.com/


Of course TOTUS did fail Obama recently. Obama thanking himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7SDLwTdnqc



Redstate (yes it's right wing) posted a pretty funny video regarding TOTUS:

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2009/03/23/teleprompt-me-baby/


Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 01:19:38 PM
Have you ever tried to speak with a TelePrompTer?

It's not easy.  I respect anyone who can read and react so naturally with a crowd of people.  I had to use one in a journalism class back in college and found that you just have to zone out and really work at the expressions and inflections.  Once you get the hang of it, you can start to shift your line of sight and head from each TelePrompTer position, but it really takes years to master.

Imagine trying to follow the TelePrompTer during an important state dinner with the sounds of silverware and other conversations taking place around you, or outside with the glare from sunlight and flashes. 

You make it sound like this is some kind of crutch, when it's actually a skill that few can master with such success.

Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Hoss on March 24, 2009, 02:38:58 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 01:19:38 PM
Have you ever tried to speak with a TelePrompTer?

It's not easy.  I respect anyone who can read and react so naturally with a crowd of people.  I had to use one in a journalism class back in college and found that you just have to zone out and really work at the expressions and inflections.  Once you get the hang of it, you can start to shift your line of sight and head from each TelePrompTer position, but it really takes years to master.

Imagine trying to follow the TelePrompTer during an important state dinner with the sounds of silverware and other conversations taking place around you, or outside with the glare from sunlight and flashes. 

You make it sound like this is some kind of crutch, when it's actually a skill that few can master with such success.



Oh, you've gone and done it now, Scott...Gweed will start calling you an 'Obama-Spooner' soon!

;)
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 24, 2009, 03:52:30 PM
I will start it out

Obama-Spooner!!!
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on March 24, 2009, 04:00:05 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 01:19:38 PM
Have you ever tried to speak with a TelePrompTer?

It's not easy.  I respect anyone who can read and react so naturally with a crowd of people.  I had to use one in a journalism class back in college and found that you just have to zone out and really work at the expressions and inflections.  Once you get the hang of it, you can start to shift your line of sight and head from each TelePrompTer position, but it really takes years to master.

Imagine trying to follow the TelePrompTer during an important state dinner with the sounds of silverware and other conversations taking place around you, or outside with the glare from sunlight and flashes. 

You make it sound like this is some kind of crutch, when it's actually a skill that few can master with such success.



Um, Gas, assuming you are not being facetious, weren't you the one that started this thread? Where was the praise for Obama's skill in using a teleprompter and your problems in using one back then? Also, weren't you the one that posted the following in this thread:

LOL
There's actually a website.
http://www.teleprompterpresident.com/

TELEPROMPTER FOR PRESIDENT 08'

You also provided that link for all of us to visit, presumably to mock Obama for his reliance on this "crutch". Have you visited that site lately? Well check it out:  http://www.teleprompterpresident.com/

Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Hoss on March 24, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
I'm guessing Scott wasn't counting on the TelePrompter police reviving a six-month-old thread.  Leave it up to Gweed, though.

;D
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 04:11:51 PM
Quote from: guido911 on March 24, 2009, 04:00:05 PM
Um, Gas, assuming you are not being facetious, weren't you the one that started this thread? Where was the praise for Obama's skill in using a teleprompter and your problems in using one back then? Also, weren't you the one that posted the following in this thread:

LOL
There's actually a website.
http://www.teleprompterpresident.com/

TELEPROMPTER FOR PRESIDENT 08'

You also provided that link for all of us to visit, presumably to mock Obama for his reliance on this "crutch". Have you visited that site lately? Well check it out:  http://www.teleprompterpresident.com/



Yes Gueed, I was, but I've changed my mind. 

I think that President Obama and the TelePrompTer work as one in harmony.  Yes, it's a bit unnerving at first for foreign dignitaries and reporters, but it allows the President a fresh flowing supply of words and policy, available at a glance.

We've seen what happens when the TOTUS is not present, and I just think I can learn to accept President Obama and his apparatus as one.

FDR used to hide the fact that he needed a wheelchair because he thought that people would view him as weak for it. Well we live in a different world now where people are not judged in such a superficial fashion.

I would rather see President Obama stand proud with his TelePrompTer than belittle myself by poking fun at him for relying on something that is perhaps necessary for him.

Together they are a fantastic speaker.  So don't judge me for my change of heart.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on March 24, 2009, 04:21:05 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 04:11:51 PM
...I just think I can learn to accept President Obama and his apparatus as one...Together they are a fantastic speaker. 

Bwahahahaha
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 24, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Wow, this is starting to be the TulsaNow Forum equivalent of saying Rush Limbaugh is just an entertainer!
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 08:15:18 PM
All of the blogs are going crazy.  I'm watching the first presidential news conference without the TOTUS, and it's strange.  Under pressure from the media he's going commando and I feel for him. 

I've also noticed something else interesting as a pattern.  When President Obama reverses his position on something he simply sites "because it's the right thing to do" as a reason.  Sounds great.  I love multi-purpose catch phrases.  I wish he had the advantage of the TOTUS tonight, but hearing him um and uh, and search for words and ideas makes him more human.  I respect that. It was so very brave. I felt sorry for Axelrod biting his knuckles on the 4th row to the left.  They need to keep him off camera.  It's like Toto barking at the wizard.

Over the past 60 days many feared that President Obama was going to be some charismatic socialist, a pied piper that would lead an ignorant masses down a road to Socialism using only his cult of personality.  Tonight we saw the man.

I think I like this president.  Why?  Because it's the right thing to do.

Now that the vail is gone, no more crutch, no more cigarette, no more Teleprompter.

I look forward to great things.


Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on March 24, 2009, 08:21:35 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 08:15:18 PM
All of the blogs are going crazy.  I'm watching the first presidential news conference without the TOTUS, and it's strange.  Under pressure from the media he's going commando and I feel for him



Not exactly accurate. He had a tv monitor mounted in front of the camera he was reading from.  Not the same as TOTUS, but still using a crutch.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: guido911 on March 24, 2009, 08:21:35 PM
Not exactly accurate. He had a tv monitor mounted in front of the camera he was reading from.  Not the same as TOTUS, but still using a crutch.

I just saw the coverage. 

I am so wrong. 

He also had a huge live screen at the back of the room that the was getting answers to questions on.  O'Riley is yucking it up. 

If he had all of those tools why was he so lost?

I had such high hopes.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: RipTout on March 24, 2009, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on March 24, 2009, 08:15:18 PM
All of the RIGHT WING blogs are going crazy.  I'm watching the first presidential news conference without the TOTUS, and it's strange.  Under pressure from the media he's going commando and I feel for him. 

I've also noticed something else interesting as a pattern.  When President Obama reverses his position on something he simply sites "because it's the right thing to do" as a reason.  Sounds great.  I love multi-purpose catch phrases.  I wish he had the advantage of the TOTUS tonight, but hearing him um and uh, and search for words and ideas makes him more human.  I respect that. It was so very brave. I felt sorry for Axelrod biting his knuckles on the 4th row to the left.  They need to keep him off camera.  It's like Toto barking at the wizard.

Over the past 60 days many feared that President Obama was going to be some charismatic socialist, a pied piper that would lead an ignorant masses down a road to Socialism using only his cult of personality.  Tonight we saw the man.

I think I like this president.  Why?  Because it's the right thing to do.

Now that the vail is gone, no more crutch, no more cigarette, no more Teleprompter.

I look forward to great things.




You got a problem with fags?
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: RipTout on March 24, 2009, 11:33:33 PM
THE GALL!
Here is that golden moment-- "I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak."
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/03/video-president-obama-smacks-down-ed.html

That guy who controls the teleprompter is quick with his feeds to BO.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on March 25, 2009, 05:54:47 AM
I'm not sure this is the path to recovery?
(http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/wp-content/assets/19/1101/article_photo1_sm.jpg)

Why not just let us read the screen?

I noticed some of the reporters were.

Would this violate DC's Digital Billboard Ordinance?

Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: FOTD on March 31, 2009, 06:21:55 PM
The devil made me do it! HUFPO xxx.....

WINGNUTTIA! That's better than Dumbf***istan.

We live in the state of Dumbf***istan....Wingnuttia's largest population is well represented at our state capitoll.

Any of you Wingnuttians care to comment?


Why Does Obama's Teleprompter Hate America?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/why-does-obamas-telepromp_b_179288.html

"In the past couple of weeks, the teleprompter attack has gone full-blown viral among far-right tea baggers and bloggers (who, by the way, still haven't "gone Galt" as promised). Michelle Malkin, for example, posted a series of terrifically unfunny photoshopped images of the president and his teleprompters. Drudge ballyhooed a hilarious blog written by -- get this -- the president's teleprompter. And random members of broader wingnuttia have taken to calling the president "TOTUS" (Teleprompter of the United States).
So funny! I tell you what, here's more fuel for the far-right bloggers. A gift from me to them. President Obama, it turns out, needs a pen -- a PEN! -- in order to write words on paper and to sign his name. Zing! Pow! Time to work up some awesome Obama's Pen photoshops. In Pen We Trust! Barack HusseINK Obama! Sharpie of the United States -- or "SOTUS."

But okay, I get it. The claim from the far-right is that, without his teleprompter, President Obama is a dumb stupid. Yes, far-right Bush dead-enders are equating verbal performance with intelligence.

Say what you will about his politics, but no one with any degree of honesty can claim with a straight face that President Obama isn't one of the smartest presidents of the last 50-plus years."
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on March 31, 2009, 07:27:46 PM
I don't think President Obama is dumb or stupid, on the contrary, I think he's brilliant.  I don't necessarily agree with most of his politics, but I never doubt his intelligence. 

His reliance on the TOTUS is simply part of his method.  He performs far better with it than without it, and there is no shame in acknowledging that.  Many of us have a hard time putting our thoughts into words, and if technological aids such as the TOTUS make life easier for the President, than I can support that.

My father-in-law had a hip replacement last year, he experiences no pain, but he walks with a cane because the muscles are weak, and without his cane his gate seems labored or off balance to others.  He would rather use the cane than have people question his sobriety.  There is no shame in that.

The secret service has even taken special measures to ensure that the "technological package" (not TOTUS, actually code named "The Binky") arrives to all of the necessary meetings with The President (code name "Renegade").  It may be a bit offsetting to some foreign dignitaries but they will get used to it.  It does not change his policies whether he speaks like a Greek orator, or UM's and UH's like a teenager.  I would rather him sound good and represent the nation well, so I prefer that he use all of the tools at his disposal.




Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on April 03, 2009, 01:59:52 PM
The POTUS without TOTUS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3zft6_mZjs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftownhall%2Ecom%2Fblog%2Fg%2F3e28b10e%2Df242%2D41ff%2D9e0a%2D28e5466cfa2b&feature=player_embedded



TOTUS now has its own store:

http://www.cafepress.com/BOTeleprompter
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: FOTD on April 03, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
Geeb! Oh

If ridiculing and laughing at this Prez is all the Wingnutians can do, BO will be delt for 8 years.

So, keep it up!

Viagra?
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on April 03, 2009, 04:35:03 PM
The Q&A and the Town Hall meeting this morning in France was a bit painful, but all and all I think he did a good job of representing our position.  A lot of "um and uh" and no real answers to any questions (just like most politicians), and at one point he almost forgot Sarkozy's name, but "uh'ed" his way to it. 

The most uncomfortable part was when he had a serious long pregnant pause after a reporter asked him about discussions with Russia concerning the missile defense bases to be built in Europe.  While he was seeking his words, the camera panned in on Hillary in the front row.  She was smirking at his difficulty, and as she spotted the camera, she quickly changed her expression.  That made me a bit angry.  I don't care who she thinks she is, she serves our President now!

Besides being nervous and out of place (one can imagine), I think he did a relatively good job of not saying anything regrettable.  It was obvious he is exhausted, but he held it together very well.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on April 06, 2009, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on April 03, 2009, 04:35:03 PM
The Q&A and the Town Hall meeting this morning in France was a bit painful, but all and all I think he did a good job of representing our position.  A lot of "um and uh" and no real answers to any questions (just like most politicians), and at one point he almost forgot Sarkozy's name, but "uh'ed" his way to it. 

The most uncomfortable part was when he had a serious long pregnant pause after a reporter asked him about discussions with Russia concerning the missile defense bases to be built in Europe.  While he was seeking his words, the camera panned in on Hillary in the front row.  She was smirking at his difficulty, and as she spotted the camera, she quickly changed her expression.  That made me a bit angry.  I don't care who she thinks she is, she serves our President now!

Besides being nervous and out of place (one can imagine), I think he did a relatively good job of not saying anything regrettable.  It was obvious he is exhausted, but he held it together very well.

Austrian is a language?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr7zhnctF4c&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhotair%2Ecom%2Farchives%2F2009%2F04%2F06%2Fobamateurism%2Dof%2Dthe%2Dday%2D14%2Fcomment%2Dpage%2D1%2F%23comments&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on April 27, 2009, 10:45:41 AM
TOTUS fails Obama once again. This one is hilarious:

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0409/obama_gets_ahead_of_prompter_3813cbcb-1e4a-44c6-b1e7-26017e7b70c2.html
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on May 21, 2009, 11:27:02 AM
Damn you TOTUS Bill Gates is not the Secretary of Defense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RyESrsd6CI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhotair%2Ecom%2Farchives%2F2009%2F05%2F21%2Fvideo%2Dobama%2Dacknowledges%2Ddefense%2Dsecretary%2Dwilliam%2Dgates%2F&feature=player_embedded

Incidentally, epic FAIL Obama in trying to upstage Cheney's speech. Obama brought a knife to a gunfight.  :D
Don't believe me? Visit the blue blogs and see how they are reduced to b*tching about Cheney's draft deferments to cover for Obama (of course ignoring that Obama never served a day in the military and that Biden had just as many) or name calling.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: USRufnex on May 21, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Incidentally, Obama's speech this morning blew Cheney's away..... nanny-nanny-boo-boo.... and Cheney sure looked at his notes alot, maybe he shoulda used a teleprompter...   ::)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/05/67104589/1
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on May 21, 2009, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: USRufnex on May 21, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Incidentally, Obama's speech this morning blew Cheney's away..... nanny-nanny-boo-boo.... and Cheney sure looked at his notes alot, maybe he shoulda used a teleprompter...   ::)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/05/67104589/1



Bwahahahahahaha. "[O]bama 's speech this morning blew Cheney 's away" (FIFY). I really liked that Sec. of Defense William Gates comment (and he had TOTUS). As for Cheney, here he is lacing into the plan, or lack thereof, for closing Gitmo:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?iref=videoglobal

As a side note, since his own Director of National Intelligence has stated that EIT saved lives, I wonder how many American lives Obama is willing to sacrifice in order to uphold his opinion as to American core values?
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: USRufnex on May 21, 2009, 01:40:52 PM
Kinda wild to see the GOP take the NIMBY position on closing GITMO....
I like hearing Cheney's perspectives.... but then again, I liked hearing Michael Moore's perspectives.... which one is "propaganda"?... and which one is "patriotism and love of country"?... Buehler, Buehler?...

There is a debate to be had here..... and a reasonable debate between adults over policy is preferable to pithy little soundbite wars over teleprompters and gaffes....

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But you can't do that in Church of England, you can't say, "You must have tea and cake with the Vicar, or you die!" You can't have extreme points of view, you know. The Spanish Inquisition wouldn't have worked with Church of England.

"Talk! Will you talk!"

"But it hurts!"

"Well, loosen it up a bit, will you? Fine..."

Cause that's what it would be. "Tea and cake or death? Tea and cake or death? Tea and cake or death!" Students with beards, ( mimes demonstrating with picket signs ) "Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cookbook! Little Red Cookbook!"  Cause, "Cake or death?" That's a pretty easy question. Anyone could answer that.


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Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: USRufnex on May 21, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: guido911 on May 21, 2009, 01:21:56 PM

Bwahahahahahaha. "[O]bama 's speech this morning blew Cheney 's away" (FIFY). I really liked that Sec. of Defense William Gates comment (and he had TOTUS). As for Cheney, here he is lacing into the plan, or lack thereof, for closing Gitmo:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?iref=videoglobal

As a side note, since his own Director of National Intelligence has stated that EIT saved lives, I wonder how many American lives Obama is willing to sacrifice in order to uphold his opinion as to American core values?


Maybe you should stop listening for gaffes and playing right wing gotcha games... and focus on the substance of Obama's arguments...

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"...my single most important responsibility as President is to keep the American people safe. That is the first thing that I think about when I wake up in the morning. It is the last thing that I think about when I go to sleep at night.

This responsibility is only magnified in an era when an extremist ideology threatens our people, and technology gives a handful of terrorists the potential to do us great harm. We are less than eight years removed from the deadliest attack on American soil in our history. We know that al Qaeda is actively planning to attack us again. We know that this threat will be with us for a long time, and that we must use all elements of our power to defeat it.

Already, we have taken several steps to achieve that goal. For the first time since 2002, we are providing the necessary resources and strategic direction to take the fight to the extremists who attacked us on 9/11 in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We are investing in the 21st century military and intelligence capabilities that will allow us to stay one step ahead of a nimble enemy.

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We uphold our most cherished values not only because doing so is right, but because it strengthens our country and keeps us safe. Time and again, our values have been our best national security asset - in war and peace; in times of ease and in eras of upheaval.

Fidelity to our values is the reason why the United States of America grew from a small string of colonies under the writ of an empire to the strongest nation in the world.

It is the reason why enemy soldiers have surrendered to us in battle, knowing they'd receive better treatment from America's armed forces than from their own government.

It is the reason why America has benefited from strong alliances that amplified our power, and drawn a sharp and moral contrast with our adversaries.

It is the reason why we've been able to overpower the iron fist of fascism, outlast the iron curtain of communism, and enlist free nations and free people everywhere in common cause and common effort.

From Europe to the Pacific, we have been a nation that has shut down torture chambers and replaced tyranny with the rule of law. That is who we are.

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After 9/11, we knew that we had entered a new era - that enemies who did not abide by any law of war would present new challenges to our application of the law; that our government would need new tools to protect the American people, and that these tools would have to allow us to prevent attacks instead of simply prosecuting those who try to carry them out.

Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. And I believe that those decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that - too often - our government made decisions based upon fear rather than foresight, and all too often trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, we too often set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And in this season of fear, too many of us - Democrats and Republicans; politicians, journalists and citizens - fell silent.

In other words, we went off course.

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As Commander-in-Chief, I see the intelligence, I bear responsibility for keeping this country safe, and I reject the assertion that these are the most effective means of interrogation. What's more, they undermine the rule of law. They alienate us in the world. They serve as a recruitment tool for terrorists, and increase the will of our enemies to fight us, while decreasing the will of others to work with America. They risk the lives of our troops by making it less likely that others will surrender to them in battle, and more likely that Americans will be mistreated if they are captured. In short, they did not advance our war and counter-terrorism efforts - they undermined them, and that is why I ended them once and for all.

The arguments against these techniques did not originate from my Administration. As Senator McCain once said, torture "serves as a great propaganda tool for those who recruit people to fight against us."

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As our efforts to close Guantanamo move forward, I know that the politics in Congress will be difficult. These issues are fodder for 30-second commercials and direct mail pieces that are designed to frighten. I get it. But if we continue to make decisions from within a climate of fear, we will make more mistakes. And if we refuse to deal with these issues today, then I guarantee you that they will be an albatross around our efforts to combat terrorism in the future. I have confidence that the American people are more interested in doing what is right to protect this country than in political posturing.

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For over seven years, we have detained hundreds of people at Guantanamo. During that time, the system of Military Commissions at Guantanamo succeeded in convicting a grand total of three suspected terrorists. Let me repeat that: three convictions in over seven years. Instead of bringing terrorists to justice, efforts at prosecution met setbacks, cases lingered on, and in 2006 the Supreme Court invalidated the entire system. Meanwhile, over five hundred and twenty-five detainees were released from Guantanamo under the Bush Administration. Let me repeat that: two-thirds of the detainees were released before I took office and ordered the closure of Guantanamo.

There is also no question that Guantanamo set back the moral authority that is America's strongest currency in the world. Instead of building a durable framework for the struggle against al Qaeda that drew upon our deeply held values and traditions, our government was defending positions that undermined the rule of law. Indeed, part of the rationale for establishing Guantanamo in the first place was the misplaced notion that a prison there would be beyond the law - a proposition that the Supreme Court soundly rejected. Meanwhile, instead of serving as a tool to counter-terrorism, Guantanamo became a symbol that helped al Qaeda recruit terrorists to its cause. Indeed, the existence of Guantanamo likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained.

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There are no neat or easy answers here. But I can tell you that the wrong answer is to pretend like this problem will go away if we maintain an unsustainable status quo. As President, I refuse to allow this problem to fester. Our security interests won't permit it. Our courts won't allow it. And neither should our conscience.

Now, over the last several weeks, we have seen a return of the politicization of these issues that have characterized the last several years. I understand that these problems arouse passions and concerns. They should. We are confronting some of the most complicated questions that a democracy can face. But I have no interest in spending our time re-litigating the policies of the last eight years. I want to solve these problems, and I want to solve them together as Americans.

And we will be ill-served by some of the fear-mongering that emerges whenever we discuss this issue. Listening to the recent debate, I've heard words that are calculated to scare people rather than educate them; words that have more to do with politics than protecting our country.

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I understand that it is no secret that there is a tendency in Washington to spend our time pointing fingers at one another. And our media culture feeds the impulses that lead to a good fight. Nothing will contribute more to that than an extended re-litigation of the last eight years. Already, we have seen how that kind of effort only leads those in Washington to different sides laying blame, and can distract us from focusing our time, our effort, and our politics on the challenges of the future.

We see that, above all, in how the recent debate has been obscured by two opposite and absolutist ends. On one side of the spectrum, there are those who make little allowance for the unique challenges posed by terrorism, and who would almost never put national security over transparency. On the other end of the spectrum, there are those who embrace a view that can be summarized in two words: "anything goes." Their arguments suggest that the ends of fighting terrorism can be used to justify any means, and that the President should have blanket authority to do whatever he wants - provided that it is a President with whom they agree.

Both sides may be sincere in their views, but neither side is right. The American people are not absolutist, and they don't elect us to impose a rigid ideology on our problems.
They know that we need not sacrifice our security for our values, nor sacrifice our values for our security, so long as we approach difficult questions with honesty, and care, and a dose of common sense. That, after all, is the unique genius of America. That is the challenge laid down by our Constitution. That has been the source of our strength through the ages. That is what makes the United States of America different as a nation.

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Unlike the Civil War or World War II, we cannot count on a surrender ceremony to bring this journey to an end. Right now, in distant training camps and in crowded cities, there are people plotting to take American lives. That will be the case a year from now, five years from now, and - in all probability - ten years from now. Neither I nor anyone else can standing here today can say that there will not be another terrorist attack that takes American lives. But I can say with certainty that my Administration - along with our extraordinary troops and the patriotic men and women who defend our national security - will do everything in our power to keep the American people safe. And I do know with certainty that we can defeat al Qaeda. Because the terrorists can only succeed if they swell their ranks and alienate America from our allies, and they will never be able to do that if we stay true to who we are; if we forge tough and durable approaches to fighting terrorism that are anchored in our timeless ideals.

This must be our common purpose. I ran for President because I believe that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together. We will not be safe if we see national security as a wedge that divides America - it can and must be a cause that unites us as one people, as one nation. We have done so before in times that were more perilous than ours. We will do so once again. Thank you, God Bless you, and God bless the United States of America.



Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on May 21, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Holy Crap.  Ruf IS the TOTUS.

I knew it.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on May 27, 2009, 10:11:37 AM
We must end privacy in the Gulf of Aden:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoGPfXai0b0&feature=related

The Constitution was written 20 CENTURIES ago, says noted law professor:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhotair%2Ecom%2Farchives%2F2009%2F05%2F27%2Fobamateurism%2Dof%2Dthe%2Dday%2D44%2F&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: USRufnex on May 28, 2009, 08:35:45 AM
Thanks for proving my point, Guido.

Focus on gaffes over substance at your peril.

And equate Obama's to Bush's....

David Axelrod would like to thank you and all of freeper-nation....  :-*
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Conan71 on May 28, 2009, 08:48:48 AM
If gaffe-spotting hadn't been such a popular past time during the Bush admin, I don't think people would be so hard on gaffe-masters Obama and Biden.  Everyone is getting their paybacks, not just liberal Olbermann spooners ;)
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: USRufnex on May 28, 2009, 10:10:55 AM
I guess I'm more in line with the liberal John Stewart jocksniffers.... /snark.

(http://www.wmsoccer.com/archives/lebo.jpg)(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2p9QMRZ1S4I/R8Q6BqVAxaI/AAAAAAAAAOo/or3YF7Iaj9Y/s400/js2.jpg)

QuoteI am a Boortz and Gibson spooner.

Matthews and Olbermann will undoubtedly be masturbating under their desks this evening.

Matthews and Olbermann will undoubtedly be masturbating each other   under their desks this evening.

Some of y'all need to get laid.
Seriously, dudes. 


Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on May 28, 2009, 10:16:50 AM
Quote from: USRufnex on May 28, 2009, 10:10:55 AM

Some of y'all need to get laid.
Seriously, dudes. 


If that's an offer soocerboy, sorry, I'm straight.  As for Axelrod, f*ck that mysoginist. Here's that dooshnozzle (who obviously must be gay) calling Carrie Prejean a dog.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/05/classy-axelrod-prejean-is-dog-audio.html

Where is NOW with a response? crickets.

Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on June 08, 2009, 11:13:50 AM
Via drudge:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31051003#31155804



Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: FOTD on June 08, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: guido911 on June 08, 2009, 11:13:50 AM
Via drudge:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31051003#31155804




Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on July 13, 2009, 05:51:05 PM
TOTUS destroyed:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/if-a-teleprompter-falls-in-the-white-house-does-it-make-a-sound.html
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on October 23, 2009, 01:10:59 PM
Obama's teleprompter being racist once again:

Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: FOTD on October 23, 2009, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: guido911 on October 23, 2009, 01:10:59 PM
Obama's teleprompter being racist once again:



Doe Doe, you had to search long and hard on your network of right wing news analyzers to come up with that 5 second gaff. Certainly, that doesn't compare to Dumbya's daily slip ups on Letterman shows every evening for 8 years.
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: FOTD on January 18, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obamas_home_teleprompter
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on January 26, 2010, 09:25:42 AM
Jon Stewart re: TOTUS

http://videos.mediaite.com/video/Even-Jon-Stewart-Goes-After-Oba
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on February 04, 2010, 08:31:33 PM
I never knew that when I was in the Army I was a corpse-man:

Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Red Arrow on February 04, 2010, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: guido911 on February 04, 2010, 08:31:33 PM
I never knew that when I was in the Army I was a corpse-man:

Is that another name for Medic?
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Breadburner on February 10, 2010, 11:24:11 AM
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Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: guido911 on April 26, 2011, 08:59:16 PM
The inventor of the teleprompter has passed.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/04/26/bad-news-inventor-of-teleprompter-dead-at-91/

Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Gaspar on April 27, 2011, 05:10:40 PM
Will the president be issuing a statement?
Title: Re: TelePrompTer 08'
Post by: Teatownclown on April 26, 2012, 12:16:33 PM
Marco Rubio needs a teleprompter.... http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/25/11393670-rubio-loses-last-page-of-speech-wishes-he-had-obamas-teleprompter?lite

Wishy washy?

Calling Guido.....

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