This seems like a sure thing to me.
Between her daughter's drinking and pre-marital sex to her sister's divorce and the governor's attempts to get the ex fired...Every day there is another revelation...
Did McCain vett her at all?
I bet he didn't even google her. He says he doesn't use the internet...I bet he sent google a letter...
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
This seems like a sure thing to me.
Between her daughter's drinking and pre-marital sex to her sister's divorce and the governor's attempts to get the ex fired...Every day there is another revelation...
Did McCain vett her at all?
I bet he didn't even google her. He says he doesn't use the internet...I bet he sent google a letter...
The devil senses you are correct.....Levi Johnston vs. Sarah throwing chairs over having to have kids. The drama![:O][}:)][:D]
RM,
You're better than this.
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Originally posted by MH2010
RM,
You're better than this.
Apparently not.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
This seems like a sure thing to me.
Between her daughter's drinking and pre-marital sex to her sister's divorce and the governor's attempts to get the ex fired...Every day there is another revelation...
Did McCain vett her at all?
I bet he didn't even google her. He says he doesn't use the internet...I bet he sent google a letter...
Wasn't Obama's mother an unwed teenager when she became pregnant with him? Wasn't Obama raised by a white grandparents? Didn't Obama's father abandon him when he was young? Wasn't Obama the grass smoking, coke user in the 1980s. Oh, and let's not even talk about your girl Hillary and the REAL functional marriage she has with B.J. Clinton. Seriously, RM, your hypocrisy is starting to rival Waterboy.
B.J. Clinton .....the only correct comment you've made in ages.
LOL.
Promiscuous Palin? Premature Palin? P. U. Palin?
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Originally posted by FOTD
Promiscuous Palin? Premature Palin? P. U. Palin?
Fertile females . . .
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
This seems like a sure thing to me.
Between her daughter's drinking and pre-marital sex to her sister's divorce and the governor's attempts to get the ex fired...Every day there is another revelation...
Did McCain vett her at all?
I bet he didn't even google her. He says he doesn't use the internet...I bet he sent google a letter...
RecycleMichael:
If a black gangsta rapper knocks up your teenage daughter, be sure to vet the information promptly on this Forum.
We'll reciprocate with some kind words of encouragement.....
[:P]
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
This seems like a sure thing to me.
Between her daughter's drinking and pre-marital sex to her sister's divorce and the governor's attempts to get the ex fired...Every day there is another revelation...
Did McCain vett her at all?
I bet he didn't even google her. He says he doesn't use the internet...I bet he sent google a letter...
RecycleMichael:
If a black man knocks up your teenage daughter, be sure to vet the information promptly on this Forum.
We'll reciprocate with some kind words of encouragement.....
[:P]
Uh Oh.....more evidunce!
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Originally posted by guido911
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
This seems like a sure thing to me.
Between her daughter's drinking and pre-marital sex to her sister's divorce and the governor's attempts to get the ex fired...Every day there is another revelation...
Did McCain vett her at all?
I bet he didn't even google her. He says he doesn't use the internet...I bet he sent google a letter...
Wasn't Obama's mother an unwed teenager when she became pregnant with him? Wasn't Obama raised by a white grandparents? Didn't Obama's father abandon him when he was young? Wasn't Obama the grass smoking, coke user in the 1980s. Oh, and let's not even talk about your girl Hillary and the REAL functional marriage she has with B.J. Clinton. Seriously, RM, your hypocrisy is starting to rival Waterboy.
Still can't find anything good to say about your own candidate other than he's a pow war hero who likes pretty women? And now you have to go after me? Who's next, my little dog Checkers?[:D]
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Originally posted by waterboy
Who's next, my little dog Checkers?[:D]
I HATE that lil' commie pinko 'dog.' Izzit celebrating Ramadan, too?
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Who's next, my little dog Checkers?[:D]
I HATE that lil' commie pinko 'dog.' Izzit celebrating Ramadan, too?
I don't know but if he poops in my dining room again he'll be served up in a Ramakin.
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Originally posted by MH2010
RM,
You're better than this.
Thank you for saying so. I respect your opinion.
I am not the only one saying these things. I learned the drinking part from a three way radio interview between Neil Boortz, Jamie DuPree and Dick Morris. They are all conservative talk show hosts not only talking about the pictures of the daughter holding up jugs of bourbon to her mouth, they were giving out the websites.
It is just fascinating to me. It would be just as fascinating to me if it were an unknown democrat running for vice president. You guys all think it is partisan. Remember, I posted some very tough words about Obama and his friends in Chicago long before others were talking about it.
I didn't hold back on my criticism of Obama. I blogged about his church, his business partners and others. I was fascinated that all these details were just coming out about him and one of my problems with him was that he wasn't fully vetted.
I feel the same about Sarah Palin. I don't comdemn her actions or the actions of her family. I will be lucky to control my kids when they become teenagers.
But she has a good chance to be the vice-President and even the President of our country. She has yet to give a major speech in prime time. During the year and a half of campaigning between over a dozen major candidates from both parties her name never came up. Because she came out of nowhere politically in the last four days, Americans are desperate to learn more about her. That includes details about her that keep appearing every day in the media. Many of the details, like the boyfriend traveling to St. Paul were put out by her own campaign.
I only blame John McCain. Her life is filled with things that make politics seem unimportant right now. John McCain thrust her into the spotlight before she was ready. Instead of vetting her properly, he is letting the internet do his job.
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I only blame John McCain. Her life is filled with things that make politics seem unimportant right now. John McCain thrust her into the spotlight before she was ready. Instead of vetting her properly, he is letting the internet do his job.
You think Palin didn't weigh these things out before she accepted the offer?
John McCain didn't thrust ANYONE into the spotlight. She ACCEPTED an offer, she wasn't FORCED to do anything.
What evidence do you have that he didn't "vett" her properly? What defines proper vetting? Why is it so hard to believe that all these issues were known and didn't pose a problem to either McCain or Palin or her family? The only ones who seem to care about her daughter are democrats.
Most importantly, which if any of these issues make her unfit to serve?
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Originally posted by iplaw
Most importantly, which if any of these issues make her unfit to serve?
I didn't say she was unfit.
I think she is unready to be vice-president.
quote:
I think she is unready to be vice-president.
Based upon what information? Because you disagree with her on policy or becase of the irrelevant and often unsubstantiated crap that you started the post with?
The Dems are scared poopless. Desperate. Demented. Freaked out beyond all reason. Coattails alllll the way to the local level. All the GOP gloating is going to make me puke.
I don't think she is ready. I want a vice-President that is ready and engaged in a variety of issues.
Do you believe she has better knowledge of international issues and leaders than either of the two democrats running? Do you think she has better policies and understanding of the issue of universal health care? Do you think she will discuss either of these or any other substantive issue in her speech tonight with great insight?
She was introduced as McCain's running mate five days ago. Her speech was about how she grew up and her husband was a snow-mobile racer and her family meant so much to her. She talked about how she is against pork in government because she opposed a bridge (forgetting that she was for it before).
How does that speech make her ready to be vice-president? How can you be so sure that she is ready. You are blindly defending her with no knowledge and no defense? Her only answer is to attack her attackers.
Tell me how she is ready to be the second most powerful person in the world.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
quote:
Originally posted by MH2010
RM,
You're better than this.
Thank you for saying so. I respect your opinion.
I am not the only one saying these things. I learned the drinking part from a three way radio interview between Neil Boortz, Jamie DuPree and Dick Morris. They are all conservative talk show hosts not only talking about the pictures of the daughter holding up jugs of bourbon to her mouth, they were giving out the websites.
Jeez.
With conservative "friends" like that, who needs enemies?
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I don't think she is ready. I want a vice-President that is ready and engaged in a variety of issues.
Do you believe she has better knowledge of international issues and leaders than either of the two democrats running? Do you think she has better policies and understanding of the issue of universal health care? Do you think she will discuss either of these or any other substantive issue in her speech tonight with great insight?
She was introduced as McCain's running mate five days ago. Her speech was about how she grew up and her husband was a snow-mobile racer and her family meant so much to her. She talked about how she is against pork in government because she opposed a bridge (forgetting that she was for it before).
How does that speech make her ready to be vice-president? How can you be so sure that she is ready. You are blindly defending her with no knowledge and no defense? Her only answer is to attack her attackers.
Tell me how she is ready to be the second most powerful person in the world.
She has more experience than the dude at the top of your ticket.
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
The Dems are scared poopless. Desperate. Demented. Freaked out beyond all reason. Coattails alllll the way to the local level. All the GOP gloating is going to make me puke.
Maybe in your alternate universe... have some more koolaid.
quote:
Originally posted by USRufnex
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
The Dems are scared poopless. Desperate. Demented. Freaked out beyond all reason. Coattails alllll the way to the local level. All the GOP gloating is going to make me puke.
Maybe in your alternate universe... have some more koolaid.
In my alternate universe it was Powell/Bloomberg.
I can't believe no one sees the storm coming. I think Friday will be a bad day for the Obamites.
Buckle up.
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar
I can't believe no one sees the storm coming. I think Friday will be a bad day for the Obamites.
Buckle up.
Why? Please illuminate these devil's for Christ's sake.
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I don't think she is ready. I want a vice-President that is ready and engaged in a variety of issues.
Do you believe she has better knowledge of international issues and leaders than either of the two democrats running? Do you think she has better policies and understanding of the issue of universal health care? Do you think she will discuss either of these or any other substantive issue in her speech tonight with great insight?
She was introduced as McCain's running mate five days ago. Her speech was about how she grew up and her husband was a snow-mobile racer and her family meant so much to her. She talked about how she is against pork in government because she opposed a bridge (forgetting that she was for it before).
How does that speech make her ready to be vice-president? How can you be so sure that she is ready. You are blindly defending her with no knowledge and no defense? Her only answer is to attack her attackers.
Tell me how she is ready to be the second most powerful person in the world.
How does
ANYTHING that Obama's
SAID in the past two years qualify him for President?
Sinators talk and talk.
Governors, well have to
GOVERN. Administer.
Budget.
Negotiate.
Sign death warrants.
Approve or veto legislation.
Call Up the National Guard as necessary.
She has ample experience to be either VP or President.
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw
Quote
What evidence do you have that he didn't "vett" her properly? What defines proper vetting?
She wasn't properly vetted because they've lost complete control over the media narrative about Palin. That's the bottom line. The proof is that she hasn't spoken once to any media outlet anywhere since being introduced. That's 5 days of campaigning -- and 5 days of "momentum" -- lost to her heretofore unknown history. The proof is also in the leaky ship. Her portion of the ticket is taking on so much water from fellow conservatives, media scrutiny, and the lightest of touches from the Obama camp. There's so much coming out about her that it's almost impossible to know which way to turn.
Really. She wasn't vetted because if she had, it wouldn't be this kind of news.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Tell me how she is ready to be the second most powerful person in the world.
How does a plagiarizing, corrupt, six term Senator, who has made questionable foreign policy votes over the years equate to "Real Change" RM?
Please don't try to impress upon any of us that your comments aren't partisan. You were incredibly hard on Obama, yet somehow he became entirely acceptible when Hillary threw in the towel.
You made some serious accusations about Obama's fitness for President, just exactly how has he satisfied you so quickly?
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
quote:
Originally posted by MH2010
RM,
You're better than this.
Thank you for saying so. I respect your opinion.
I am not the only one saying these things. I learned the drinking part from a three way radio interview between Neil Boortz, Jamie DuPree and Dick Morris. They are all conservative talk show hosts not only talking about the pictures of the daughter holding up jugs of bourbon to her mouth, they were giving out the websites.
It is just fascinating to me. It would be just as fascinating to me if it were an unknown democrat running for vice president. You guys all think it is partisan. Remember, I posted some very tough words about Obama and his friends in Chicago long before others were talking about it.
I didn't hold back on my criticism of Obama. I blogged about his church, his business partners and others. I was fascinated that all these details were just coming out about him and one of my problems with him was that he wasn't fully vetted.
I feel the same about Sarah Palin. I don't comdemn her actions or the actions of her family. I will be lucky to control my kids when they become teenagers.
But she has a good chance to be the vice-President and even the President of our country. She has yet to give a major speech in prime time. During the year and a half of campaigning between over a dozen major candidates from both parties her name never came up. Because she came out of nowhere politically in the last four days, Americans are desperate to learn more about her. That includes details about her that keep appearing every day in the media. Many of the details, like the boyfriend traveling to St. Paul were put out by her own campaign.
I only blame John McCain. Her life is filled with things that make politics seem unimportant right now. John McCain thrust her into the spotlight before she was ready. Instead of vetting her properly, he is letting the internet do his job.
Did you know your daughter is out on www.Youtube.com drinking shots with a black gangsta rapper?
His nickname is Cockzilla.
You're gonna love it.
You'll be hummin' this all day.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRnOHsRS48
ROTFLMAO!
The Ballad of Sarah Palin......Queen of the Alaskan Frontier
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She wasn't properly vetted because they've lost complete control over the media narrative about Palin. That's the bottom line.
You mean the "narrative" concerning her family that shouldn't even be a part of the discourse right now? Weak, very weak indeed.
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Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Tell me how she is ready to be the second most powerful person in the world.
How does a plagiarizing, corrupt, six term Senator, who has made questionable foreign policy votes over the years equate to "Real Change" RM?
Please don't try to impress upon any of us that your comments aren't partisan. You were incredibly hard on Obama, yet somehow he became entirely acceptible when Hillary threw in the towel.
You made some serious accusations about Obama's fitness for President, just exactly how has he satisfied you so quickly?
Don't waste your time Conan. I already tried to get RM to explain himself. I even c/p links of older threads that he started about Obama. To RM, it's party over everything else.
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Did you know your daughter is out on www.Youtube.com drinking shots with a black gangsta rapper?
His nickname is Cockzilla.
You're gonna love it.
According to RM this is now officially TRUE because it's been posted on the Internet. Good work FB.
Slamdunk! Obama belongs on Springer:
http://www.tmz.com/2008/09/02/barack-makes-his-tory-with-his-two-dads/
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
How does a plagiarizing, corrupt, six term Senator, who has made questionable foreign policy votes over the years equate to "Real Change" RM?
Please don't try to impress upon any of us that your comments aren't partisan. You were incredibly hard on Obama, yet somehow he became entirely acceptible when Hillary threw in the towel.
You made some serious accusations about Obama's fitness for President, just exactly how has he satisfied you so quickly?
Did I mention "change"?
Did I say I find Obama "entirely acceptable"?
I am sorry that you feel obliged to attack me and Biden instead of answering the question about the republican woman running for Vice-President.
No, I don't think Obama is ready either. There, are you happy?
McCain is ready to be President. Biden is ready to be President. I don't think Obama and Palin are.
But there is a big difference between Obama and Palin. Obama has worked for eighteen months campaigning all across America, meeting the public, giving major policy speeches, building a team and a website that is ready to work. He also has a special gift...his speaking style. While I don't think he is completely ready, his ability to speak and inspire others makes up a lot of ground.
Palin has done none of these things. Listen to her tonight and tell me if she is a gifted speaker. Don't just react like the trained audience in the room that is going to support every word she says.
I am not surprised at the defense of Palin by the republicans. They know they have to.
Democrats fall in love with their candidate, republicans fall in line with theirs.
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I don't think she is ready. I want a vice-President that is ready and engaged in a variety of issues.
I'd like the same from your presidential candidate, but we can't always get what we want.
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Do you believe she has better knowledge of international issues and leaders than either of the two democrats running?
I'm still trying to figure out what international experience Obama has other than his "citizens of the world" fiasco.
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Do you think she has better policies and understanding of the issue of universal health care?
That it's a joke policy and that government can't possibly run healthcare in an efficient manner, then yes.
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Do you think she will discuss either of these or any other substantive issue in her speech tonight with great insight?
I have no idea, I haven't read her speech. Did Obama give any specifics on how he plans to deal with these issues in his speech. I don't recall much detail on policy in his speech.
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She was introduced as McCain's running mate five days ago. Her speech was about how she grew up and her husband was a snow-mobile racer and her family meant so much to her. She talked about how she is against pork in government because she opposed a bridge (forgetting that she was for it before).
How does that speech make her ready to be vice-president? How can you be so sure that she is ready. You are blindly defending her with no knowledge and no defense? Her only answer is to attack her attackers.
Well, since it was her first speech don't you think you should give her some time to make her case. Do you always judge people so quickly?
Secondly, how did BO's speech make him ready to be VP? What specific parts of his speech provided euclidation of his policy stances at all?
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
How does a plagiarizing, corrupt, six term Senator, who has made questionable foreign policy votes over the years equate to "Real Change" RM?
Please don't try to impress upon any of us that your comments aren't partisan. You were incredibly hard on Obama, yet somehow he became entirely acceptible when Hillary threw in the towel.
You made some serious accusations about Obama's fitness for President, just exactly how has he satisfied you so quickly?
Did I mention "change"?
Did I say I find Obama "entirely acceptable"?
I am sorry that you feel obliged to attack me and Biden instead of answering the question about the republican woman running for Vice-President.
No, I don't think Obama is ready either. There, are you happy?
McCain is ready to be President. Biden is ready to be President. I don't think Obama and Palin are.
But there is a big difference between Obama and Palin. Obama has worked for eighteen months campaigning all across America, meeting the public, giving major policy speeches, building a team and a website that is ready to work. He also has a special gift...his speaking style. While I don't think he is completely ready, his ability to speak and inspire others makes up a lot of ground.
Palin has done none of these things. Listen to her tonight and tell me if she is a gifted speaker. Don't just react like the trained audience in the room that is going to support every word she says.
I am not surprised at the defense of Palin by the republicans. They know they have to.
Democrats fall in love with their candidate, republicans fall in line with theirs.
Tonight will be an interesting offering.
As for Obama's speaking ability, I have to agree, he is an engaging and talented orator, however he is not on the same level with Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan. They could speak from the hip and weave a spell on their audience. Obama charming but clumsy when he speaks without a script, prone to make statements that thrill the crowd, but come back to bite.
Biden is an old pro. All teeth and winks. A politician of the highest order. Kissing babies and flashing trademark expressions.
Palin is new, full of youth and energy. I have viewed a few of her old speeches and debates and now I understand why McCain respects her. She is very much like him, willing to work with anyone, and not afraid to piss off anyone.
She offers a needed influx of conservative energy to the ticket, and she serves as a serious trap to Obama and Biden. If they veer into attack based on personal issues rather than politics then they ruin everything they have worked so hard to push off onto their proxies.
As it stands now the media proxies are out of control and Obama can no longer rely on them without risking serious PR problems. So he will have to tackle his own promotion and walk very lightly.
The upcoming days will be a test of Palin and most importantly of Obama.
Keep an eye on your candidate. This will show you what kind of leader he will be as president.
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Obama has worked for eighteen months campaigning all across America, meeting the public, giving major policy speeches, building a team and a website that is ready to work.
This is some funny sh$t. Now campaigning is relevant experience? Someone should tell Ralph Nader. He's got to be ready to be president by now.
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He also has a special gift...his speaking style.
Yeah, and he's CLEAN too!
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
No, I don't think Obama is ready either. There, are you happy?
McCain is ready to be President. Biden is ready to be President. I don't think Obama and Palin are.
Much happier, thank you. [;)]
So why are you pimping the candidacy of someone who is not ready to be President? Last time I checked, the ticket reads: "Obama/Biden" not the other way around.
I don't think Americans want another Vice President running the country from the passenger seat, do we?
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
She wasn't properly vetted because they've lost complete control over the media narrative about Palin. That's the bottom line.
You mean the "narrative" concerning her family that shouldn't even be a part of the discourse right now? Weak, very weak indeed.
No. I mean all of it. The abuse of power trial (for which she has now refused to testify), the questionable political affiliations, the connection to the famed Bridge to Nowhere, etc. The family stuff is part of it but certainly not all.
One of the phrases I've heard used several times to describe this has been "a botched rollout," and I couldn't agree more. Because the whole point of vetting someone is to keep what is happening right now to Sarah Palin from happening at all. Hence: either she wasn't vetted properly, or McCain's team is inept. QED.
Yes. Campaigning across America does help prepare you to lead. He learned first hand the issues and the people he will be leading.
I think she was busy in Alaska most of that time.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Yes. Campaigning across America does help prepare you to lead. He learned first hand the issues and the people he will be leading.
I think she was busy in Alaska most of that time.
Maybe posting on threads can count to! RM for prez! Yer a shoo-in!
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Yes. Campaigning across America does help prepare you to lead. He learned first hand the issues and the people he will be leading.
I think she was busy in Alaska most of that time.
Yes, she was very busy being Governor of the largest state in the U.S.
How did Obama ever learn the issues and the people? That blowhard Obama NEVER quit talking for one minute.
He's a just a refinement of the "community activist" that he's been all his vocational life.
TALKING to get the vote out for the Cook County Democrat Political Machine.
He's a professional pol. A coat-holder.
And, a completely empty suit.
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Originally posted by we vs us
No. I mean all of it. The abuse of power trial (for which she has now refused to testify), the questionable political affiliations, the connection to the famed Bridge to Nowhere, etc. The family stuff is part of it but certainly not all.
William Ayers and Rev. Wright ring any bells? And I didn't see you bother to mention that she torpedoed the bridge to nowhere. That project didn't die on it's own, but I'm sure you just "forgot" to mention that. The family stuff is not "part" of anything unless you're a scumbag and equally willing to look into your own party's family problems.
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One of the phrases I've heard used several times to describe this has been "a botched rollout," and I couldn't agree more. Because the whole point of vetting someone is to keep what is happening right now to Sarah Palin from happening at all. Hence: either she wasn't vetted properly, or McCain's team is inept. QED.
So anyone running for office must have a perfectly manicured past with a policy history that the opposing party approves of? You seem to think that because she isn't fit to run as a democrat she's not ready. This garbage has nothing to do with "vetting" and everything to do with partisan hackjobs.
QED...not even close pal.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
How does a plagiarizing, corrupt, six term Senator, who has made questionable foreign policy votes over the years equate to "Real Change" RM?
Please don't try to impress upon any of us that your comments aren't partisan. You were incredibly hard on Obama, yet somehow he became entirely acceptible when Hillary threw in the towel.
You made some serious accusations about Obama's fitness for President, just exactly how has he satisfied you so quickly?
Did I mention "change"?
Did I say I find Obama "entirely acceptable"?
I am sorry that you feel obliged to attack me and Biden instead of answering the question about the republican woman running for Vice-President.
No, I don't think Obama is ready either. There, are you happy?
McCain is ready to be President. Biden is ready to be President. I don't think Obama and Palin are.
But there is a big difference between Obama and Palin. Obama has worked for eighteen months campaigning all across America, meeting the public, giving major policy speeches, building a team and a website that is ready to work. He also has a special gift...his speaking style. While I don't think he is completely ready, his ability to speak and inspire others makes up a lot of ground.
Palin has done none of these things. Listen to her tonight and tell me if she is a gifted speaker. Don't just react like the trained audience in the room that is going to support every word she says.
I am not surprised at the defense of Palin by the republicans. They know they have to.
Democrats fall in love with their candidate, republicans fall in line with theirs.
So Obama's special gift - his speaking style qualifies him to be President?
Adolph Hitler had a very special style of speaking too.
He enraptured audiences.
Led them right off the cliff into
die Katastrophe.The Catastrophy of Spring 1945.
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
How does a plagiarizing, corrupt, six term Senator, who has made questionable foreign policy votes over the years equate to "Real Change" RM?
Please don't try to impress upon any of us that your comments aren't partisan. You were incredibly hard on Obama, yet somehow he became entirely acceptible when Hillary threw in the towel.
You made some serious accusations about Obama's fitness for President, just exactly how has he satisfied you so quickly?
Did I mention "change"?
Did I say I find Obama "entirely acceptable"?
I am sorry that you feel obliged to attack me and Biden instead of answering the question about the republican woman running for Vice-President.
No, I don't think Obama is ready either. There, are you happy?
McCain is ready to be President. Biden is ready to be President. I don't think Obama and Palin are.
But there is a big difference between Obama and Palin. Obama has worked for eighteen months campaigning all across America, meeting the public, giving major policy speeches, building a team and a website that is ready to work. He also has a special gift...his speaking style. While I don't think he is completely ready, his ability to speak and inspire others makes up a lot of ground.
Palin has done none of these things. Listen to her tonight and tell me if she is a gifted speaker. Don't just react like the trained audience in the room that is going to support every word she says.
I am not surprised at the defense of Palin by the republicans. They know they have to.
Democrats fall in love with their candidate, republicans fall in line with theirs.
So Obama's special gift - his speaking style qualifies him to be President?
Adolph Hitler had a very special style of speaking too.
He enraptured audiences.
Led them right off the cliff into die Katastrophe.
The Catastrophy.
YOU'RE a Nazi!
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
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Originally posted by Conan71
How does a plagiarizing, corrupt, six term Senator, who has made questionable foreign policy votes over the years equate to "Real Change" RM?
Please don't try to impress upon any of us that your comments aren't partisan. You were incredibly hard on Obama, yet somehow he became entirely acceptible when Hillary threw in the towel.
You made some serious accusations about Obama's fitness for President, just exactly how has he satisfied you so quickly?
Did I mention "change"?
Did I say I find Obama "entirely acceptable"?
I am sorry that you feel obliged to attack me and Biden instead of answering the question about the republican woman running for Vice-President.
No, I don't think Obama is ready either. There, are you happy?
McCain is ready to be President. Biden is ready to be President. I don't think Obama and Palin are.
But there is a big difference between Obama and Palin. Obama has worked for eighteen months campaigning all across America, meeting the public, giving major policy speeches, building a team and a website that is ready to work. He also has a special gift...his speaking style. While I don't think he is completely ready, his ability to speak and inspire others makes up a lot of ground.
Palin has done none of these things. Listen to her tonight and tell me if she is a gifted speaker. Don't just react like the trained audience in the room that is going to support every word she says.
I am not surprised at the defense of Palin by the republicans. They know they have to.
Democrats fall in love with their candidate, republicans fall in line with theirs.
So Obama's special gift - his speaking style qualifies him to be President?
Adolph Hitler had a very special style of speaking too.
He enraptured audiences.
Led them right off the cliff into die Katastrophe.
The Catastrophy.
YOU'RE a Nazi!
AM not.
I held my nose and voted for Bush 2x; NOT Buchanan.
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Originally posted by iplaw
QuoteOriginally posted by we vs us
No. I mean all of it. The abuse of power trial (for which she has now refused to testify), the questionable political affiliations, the connection to the famed Bridge to Nowhere, etc. The family stuff is part of it but certainly not all.
William Ayers and Rev. Wright ring any bells? And I didn't see you bother to mention that she torpedoed the bridge to nowhere. That project didn't die on it's own, but I'm sure you just "forgot" to mention that. The family stuff is not "part" of anything unless you're a scumbag and equally willing to look into your own party's family problems.
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Congress torpedoed the Bridge to Nowhere, not Palin. She was for it for a loooooong time.
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"You did good shorty.... Now do I have a surprise for you......!"
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[}:)]
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Congress torpedoed the Bridge to Nowhere, not Palin. She was for it for a loooooong time.
You need to do some Googling. She quit supporting that beast when she took a closer look and saw all the waste and over-runs in it.
It's incredible how people on here take Coburn to task for reeling in waste. They say he doesn't "bring home the bacon" for Oklahoma. Yet, Sarah Palin appears to have been a proactive leader who brought Federal money into her city and state (which does not have near the population growth, nor increasing tax pool like other states do) and she's somehow evil?
What a bunch of partisan hacks.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Congress torpedoed the Bridge to Nowhere, not Palin. She was for it for a loooooong time.
...she's somehow evil?
What a bunch of partisan hacks.
Let's start taking their names. Then,
After the election, our GeheimesStaatsPolizei can take them to the "Re-education" camps.
One-way trip.
Wink-Wink.
[;)]
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Bit of an exaggeration there; Didn't Barack the Redeemer spend only EIGHT years in the Illinois State Legislator, and TWO years in the U.S. Sinate. 8 + 2 = 10 years "Publik" Service.
You left out Palin being President of the PTA, and two terms on the City Council. Meany.
She defeated an incumbent Good-Old Boy's imbedded GOP Governor in the Primary, then defeated a previous Democrat Governor in the General Election.
Obama defeated a GOP STAND-IN Alan Keyes, after GOP Senate Candidate Mr. Ryan couldn't take the public sliming after a California Democrat Judge UNSEALED his steamy He-said/She-said sealed divorce case file. How HANDY!
In order to slime him. Mr. Ryan admitted in a deposition that he wanted to SLEEP WITH his wife, Actress Jeri "Juggs" Ryan.
Well, YEAH, dude. So does every other male over the age of 13 in America. That's news?
That's how we got Senator Obama the Redeemer, care of the Cook County Democrat Political Machine.
STOP THE MACHINE.
[:(!]
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
You left out Palin being President of the PTA, and two terms on the City Council.
She defeated an incumbent Good-Old Boy's GOP Governor, then defeated a previous Democrat Governor.
Obama defeated a GOP STAND-IN Alan Keyes, after Mr. Ryan couldn't take the slime of a California Democrat Judge UNSEALING a sealed divorce file.
In order to slime him. He admitted in a deposition that he wanted to SLEEP WITH his wife, Actress Jeri "Juggs" Ryan.
That's how we got Senator Obama the Redeemer, care of the Cook County Democrat Political Machine.
STOP THE MACHINE.
[:(!]
So much experience required to run a country can be learned from running the PTA of a town of 8000.
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
You left out Palin being President of the PTA, and two terms on the City Council.
She defeated an incumbent Good-Old Boy's GOP Governor, then defeated a previous Democrat Governor.
Obama defeated a GOP STAND-IN Alan Keyes, after Mr. Ryan couldn't take the slime of a California Democrat Judge UNSEALING a sealed divorce file.
In order to slime him. He admitted in a deposition that he wanted to SLEEP WITH his wife, Actress Jeri "Juggs" Ryan.
That's how we got Senator Obama the Redeemer, care of the Cook County Democrat Political Machine.
STOP THE MACHINE.
[:(!]
So much experience required to run a country can be learned from running the PTA of a town of 8000.
It called the
Building Blocks of Experience:
PTA
City Council
Mayor
Governor
Vice President
President
In that order.
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
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Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by we vs us
No. I mean all of it. The abuse of power trial (for which she has now refused to testify), the questionable political affiliations, the connection to the famed Bridge to Nowhere, etc. The family stuff is part of it but certainly not all.
William Ayers and Rev. Wright ring any bells? And I didn't see you bother to mention that she torpedoed the bridge to nowhere. That project didn't die on it's own, but I'm sure you just "forgot" to mention that. The family stuff is not "part" of anything unless you're a scumbag and equally willing to look into your own party's family problems.
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One of the phrases I've heard used several times to describe this has been "a botched rollout," and I couldn't agree more. Because the whole point of vetting someone is to keep what is happening right now to Sarah Palin from happening at all. Hence: either she wasn't vetted properly, or McCain's team is inept. QED.
So anyone running for office must have a perfectly manicured past with a policy history that the opposing party approves of? You seem to think that because she isn't fit to run as a democrat she's not ready. This garbage has nothing to do with "vetting" and everything to do with partisan hackjobs.
QED...not even close pal.
No, that's not right. She doesn't have to have a perfectly manicured past, whether she's running as a Democrat, or a Republican, or an Independent. But she has to have a past that is explainable, her past has to be able to be doled out in a controlled fashion so as to control the story being told, and McCain's surrogates all have to be on point. It's all about prepping her for going national. You'll notice I'm not talking about her fitness as a politician, or as a candidate, or whether she's electable or her experience or anything else you're assuming. I'm just talking about whether the McCain people did what should've been done. And they flat didn't.
Obama, btw, actually addressed the Wright debacle directly with a prime time speech, and then publicly disavowed him. Palin is in lockdown and won't even speak to the media. So really, I'm not sure what point you're making.
Oh, and it was the McCain people who released news of Bristol's pregnancy to the media over the weekend. Wasn't a Democratic oppo team, or a liberal blog, or a private investigator or Drudge. It was John McCain's campaign.
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Originally posted by we vs us
No, that's not right. She doesn't have to have a perfectly manicured past, whether she's running as a Democrat, or a Republican, or an Independent. But she has to have a past that is explainable, her past has to be able to be doled out in a controlled fashion so as to control the story being told, and McCain's surrogates all have to be on point. It's all about prepping her for going national. You'll notice I'm not talking about her fitness as a politician, or as a candidate, or whether she's electable or her experience or anything else you're assuming. I'm just talking about whether the McCain people did what should've been done. And they flat didn't.
I'm still trying to find out what McCain "didn't" do that gives you concern. Maybe you could start with actual specifics instead of generalizations so we can discuss them specifically.
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Obama, btw, actually addressed the Wright debacle directly with a prime time speech, and then publicly disavowed him. Palin is in lockdown and won't even speak to the media. So really, I'm not sure what point you're making.
Yeah, after he sat in the moron's church for 20 years and weeks after Wright was brought to light. Wright had to make an donkey of himself at yet another press conference before Obama felt the need to distance himself.
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Oh, and it was the McCain people who released news of Bristol's pregnancy to the media over the weekend. Wasn't a Democratic oppo team, or a liberal blog, or a private investigator or Drudge. It was John McCain's campaign.
So because they released the information to counter disgusting rumors on scumbag liberal blogs, that made her private life and that of her family fair game?
Sad and pathetic, yet completely typical.
Palin won her Mayor's race by getting 616 people to vote for her.
We get twice that in a recall election in district three council races.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Palin won her Mayor's race by getting 616 people to vote for her.
We get twice that in a recall election in district three council races.
The real question is, who gives a damn? More people vote for Ralph Nader every election than voted for Biden in the primaries. Who cares?
It would have been very nice if the "Dow" would have responded with the enthusiasm that has engulfed the GOP...........![;)]
Don't worry. BO will fix the jobs problem driving down the DOW today. He's going to ensure that more people lose their jobs by hiking taxes on the businesses that employ them... [;)]
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
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Originally posted by iplaw
Don't worry. BO will fix the jobs problem driving down the DOW today. He's going to ensure that more people lose their jobs by hiking taxes on the businesses that employ them... [;)]
He could always start a war and create a labor shortage... Don'tcha think?
Maybe that would offset the tax problem...
I would have to ask someone familiar with "the math" to be sure.
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
You left out Palin being President of the PTA, and two terms on the City Council.
She defeated an incumbent Good-Old Boy's GOP Governor, then defeated a previous Democrat Governor.
Obama defeated a GOP STAND-IN Alan Keyes, after Mr. Ryan couldn't take the slime of a California Democrat Judge UNSEALING a sealed divorce file.
In order to slime him. He admitted in a deposition that he wanted to SLEEP WITH his wife, Actress Jeri "Juggs" Ryan.
That's how we got Senator Obama the Redeemer, care of the Cook County Democrat Political Machine.
STOP THE MACHINE.
[:(!]
So much experience required to run a country can be learned from running the PTA of a town of 8000.
Or a state with a 40 Billion dollar budget. That's billion with a B.
But I'm sure that's not important. After-all, Obama was a community organizer.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
And that's all that matters for democrats at this point. Smearing is all that's left...no pun intended...or not.
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Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
And that's all that matters for democrats at this point. Smearing is all that's left...no pun intended...or not.
That's all they are interested in since there's no accomplishments for Obama to run on himself. No one seems to be able to properly rebut Gov. Palin's assertion that he's never authored two pieces of legislation, so they will just ramp up the smearing. She obviously pissed off a lot of people down at the DNC, she must be THAT good.
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Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
And that's all that matters for democrats at this point. Smearing is all that's left...no pun intended...or not.
True, after you finish pointing out the relevant facts (i.e., that she was before the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, that she is currently under two ethics investigations for abuse of power, that she received over 6 million $ in earmarks for Wasilla (a town of 6 thousand) and that she requested more earmarks per person than any other state, that she spoke before a radical political group, that she characterized the Iraq war as a mission of God, and that she has virtually no experience to name a few examples) all you have left is smearing her family--that same family that she and republican party hold out as reasons to support her.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
And that's all that matters for democrats at this point. Smearing is all that's left...no pun intended...or not.
True, after you finish pointing out the relevant facts (i.e., that she was before the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, that she is currently under two ethics investigations for abuse of power, that she received over 6 million $ in earmarks for Wasilla (a town of 6 thousand) and that she requested more earmarks per person than any other state, that she spoke before a radical political group, that she characterized the Iraq war as a mission of God, and that she has virtually no experience to name a few examples) all you have left is smearing her family--that same family that she and republican party hold out as reasons to support her.
Wow, read Hufpo or Kos much?
This is what puzzles me as to why you dislike her so much. Other than the Iraq war part, she sounds a lot like a Democrat to me.
Give me the name and number of any Democrat that wants to teach the Christian Bible in Public Schools.
That alone is a deal killer.
This position would have been unthinkable until the last decade or so when Republicans bought their votes by pandering to the religous nuts.
Guess what? Moderate Republicans want their party freed from religious nuts but this election is demonstrating that the religious nuts are all you have going for you.
Long gone are the days when you had great moderate leaders like Ford and Rockefeller
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by pmcalk
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Originally posted by iplaw
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Originally posted by pmcalk
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
And that's all that matters for democrats at this point. Smearing is all that's left...no pun intended...or not.
True, after you finish pointing out the relevant facts (i.e., that she was before the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, that she is currently under two ethics investigations for abuse of power, that she received over 6 million $ in earmarks for Wasilla (a town of 6 thousand) and that she requested more earmarks per person than any other state, that she spoke before a radical political group, that she characterized the Iraq war as a mission of God, and that she has virtually no experience to name a few examples) all you have left is smearing her family--that same family that she and republican party hold out as reasons to support her.
Wow, read Hufpo or Kos much?
This is what puzzles me as to why you dislike her so much. Other than the Iraq war part, she sounds a lot like a Democrat to me.
Everything that I wrote has been proven by sources other than Huffingtonpost or Dailykos. Is there anything that I wrote that you would like to challenge?
No, because Conan will repeat the same lies over and over and over again.... like this one....
That's all they are interested in since there's no accomplishments for Obama to run on himself. No one seems to be able to properly rebut Gov. Palin's assertion that he's never authored two pieces of legislation, so they will just ramp up the smearing. She obviously pissed off a lot of people down at the DNC, she must be THAT good.
Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
That's all you do, Conan.... I've responded. Others have responded. You must like Palin, because she spent the entire night lying about Obama...
By repeating the same lie (that Obama doesn't write any of his legislation).... you lose all credibility in this thread and all the other threads....
But keep beating that dead horse... after you've been owned over and over again on this issue...
(http://blogs.amnestyusa.org/pub/amnestyusa/death-penalty/beating-a-dead-horse.gif)
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Legislative_Experience_Senator_Barack_Obama_D_IL
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Originally posted by USRufnex
No, because Conan will repeat the same lies over and over and over again.... like this one....
That's all they are interested in since there's no accomplishments for Obama to run on himself. No one seems to be able to properly rebut Gov. Palin's assertion that he's never authored two pieces of legislation, so they will just ramp up the smearing. She obviously pissed off a lot of people down at the DNC, she must be THAT good.
Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
That's all you do, Conan.... I've responded. Others have responded. You must like Palin, because she spent the entire night lying about Obama...
By repeating the same lie (that Obama doesn't write any of his legislation).... you lose all credibility in this thread and all the other threads....
But keep beating that dead horse... after you've been owned over and over again on this issue...
(http://blogs.amnestyusa.org/pub/amnestyusa/death-penalty/beating-a-dead-horse.gif)
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Legislative_Experience_Senator_Barack_Obama_D_IL
No, you responded with more articles talking about all these bills he "sponsored" "approved" "voted for" "passed". The closest you got was from faux conservative Andrew Sullivan. Not even the mighty Sullivan manages to detail what these bills were that Obama authored.
I dropped the gauntlet, you failed in your mission Grasshopper. You may not snatch the marble from my hand.
Look, you know why you are voting for Obama and I respect the hell out of that. You didn't just blindly decide to vote for him, you've done your research and I don't think I've ever seen you waver on him. Based on my research, he's not the candidate for me. All ugliness aside, I do respect that you've looked into your candidate and you have not been a party-line pantywaste.
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Originally posted by Hometown
Give me the name and number of any Democrat that wants to teach the Christian Bible in Public Schools.
That alone is a deal killer.
Proof please?
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Originally posted by pmcalk
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Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
And that's all that matters for democrats at this point. Smearing is all that's left...no pun intended...or not.
True, after you finish pointing out the relevant facts (i.e., that she was before the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, that she is currently under two ethics investigations for abuse of power, that she received over 6 million $ in earmarks for Wasilla (a town of 6 thousand) and that she requested more earmarks per person than any other state, that she spoke before a radical political group, that she characterized the Iraq war as a mission of God, and that she has virtually no experience to name a few examples) all you have left is smearing her family--that same family that she and republican party hold out as reasons to support her.
Leaving aside the fact that half of what you presented is only one side of the story...what would be equally fascinating is if you'd bother to look that closely into the past activities and faults of your own candidates...
You've done more research into a woman who's been in the campaign for less than a week than you have for your candidate who's been running for the better part of two years.
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Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Well, if that is so important to you, McCains record isn't so remarkable and Palin was lucky to get out of undergrad.
• Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College for one semester in 1982
• Transferred to North Idaho College in 1982 and selected to major in business administration
•Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985 (UPDATE)
• Graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a B.S. in communications and journalism
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Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
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Originally posted by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
If she doesn't make it to Jerry Springer, there is always the National Enquirer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml
Not that I care about whether she had an affair or not, or even believe the National Enquirer, but I am sure this won't help her image.
And that's all that matters for democrats at this point. Smearing is all that's left...no pun intended...or not.
True, after you finish pointing out the relevant facts (i.e., that she was before the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, that she is currently under two ethics investigations for abuse of power, that she received over 6 million $ in earmarks for Wasilla (a town of 6 thousand) and that she requested more earmarks per person than any other state, that she spoke before a radical political group, that she characterized the Iraq war as a mission of God, and that she has virtually no experience to name a few examples) all you have left is smearing her family--that same family that she and republican party hold out as reasons to support her.
Leaving aside the fact that half of what you presented is only one side of the story...what would be equally fascinating is if you'd bother to look that closely into the past activities and faults of your own candidates...
You've done more research into a woman who's been in the campaign for less than a week than you have for your candidate who's been running for the better part of two years.
How typical. Instead of responding, you try to throw mud on the other candidate. Yes, there is always two sides to every story, but apparently, we'll never know the other side. She has no plans to appear on any Sunday talk show. She isn't campaigning. Word is that she won't take any questions from reporters.
If you aren't ready to answer questions, you aren't ready to run for the second highest position in the United States. And you definitely aren't ready to be in that position.
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Originally posted by jne
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Well, if that is so important to you, McCains record isn't so remarkable and Palin was lucky to get out of undergrad.
• Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College for one semester in 1982
• Transferred to North Idaho College in 1982 and selected to major in business administration
•Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985 (UPDATE)
• Graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a B.S. in communications and journalism
Actually, here is the latest Palin college update:
* Hawaii Pacific University: Fall 1982 as a freshman in business administration program
* North Idaho College (2-year college): Spring 1983 and Fall 1983 (2 semesters as a general studies major)
* University of Idaho: Fall 1984 to Spring 1985 (journalism major with emphasis in broadcast news)
* Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985
* University of Idaho: Spring 1986, Fall 1986, Spring 1987
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Well, if that is so important to you, McCains record isn't so remarkable and Palin was lucky to get out of undergrad.
• Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College for one semester in 1982
• Transferred to North Idaho College in 1982 and selected to major in business administration
•Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985 (UPDATE)
• Graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a B.S. in communications and journalism
Lucky? How so? Care to elaborate? According to my calcs that was five years, quite common these days.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Well, if that is so important to you, McCains record isn't so remarkable and Palin was lucky to get out of undergrad.
• Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College for one semester in 1982
• Transferred to North Idaho College in 1982 and selected to major in business administration
•Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985 (UPDATE)
• Graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a B.S. in communications and journalism
Lucky? How so? Care to elaborate? According to my calcs that was five years, quite common these days.
Not with 5 transfers.
Lets see her grades. Could be totally wrong, but here's how it looks: She failed out of Hawaii, went to community college (more her speed), took another shot at the university thing, whoops better go back to Alaska and get the tough classes done at an easier school, then transfer them back to graduate.
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Well, if that is so important to you, McCains record isn't so remarkable and Palin was lucky to get out of undergrad.
• Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College for one semester in 1982
• Transferred to North Idaho College in 1982 and selected to major in business administration
•Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985 (UPDATE)
• Graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a B.S. in communications and journalism
Lucky? How so? Care to elaborate? According to my calcs that was five years, quite common these days.
Not with 5 transfers.
Lets see her grades. Could be totally wrong, but here's how it looks: She failed out of Hawaii, went to community college (more her speed), took another shot at the university thing, whoops better go back to Alaska and get the tough classes done at an easier school, then transfer them back to graduate.
I don't have the least hesitation at somebody taking 5 years to graduate. Hell, I did (transferred from a private school out of state). State schools do a good job of screwing schedules and giving bad advisement, making it tough to get your requirements done in 4, but if I were interviewing somebody with that history, I would have to ask, "you have a hard time getting your sh*t together or what?"
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Well, if that is so important to you, McCains record isn't so remarkable and Palin was lucky to get out of undergrad.
• Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College for one semester in 1982
• Transferred to North Idaho College in 1982 and selected to major in business administration
•Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985 (UPDATE)
• Graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a B.S. in communications and journalism
Lucky? How so? Care to elaborate? According to my calcs that was five years, quite common these days.
Not with 5 transfers.
Lets see her grades. Could be totally wrong, but here's how it looks: She failed out of Hawaii, went to community college (more her speed), took another shot at the university thing, whoops better go back to Alaska and get the tough classes done at an easier school, then transfer them back to graduate.
These attacks on Palin are getting hysterical. We have heard about her hair being twenty years out of date, she's a bad mother, and now this. As for seeing her grades, show us Obama's.He won't release them, perhaps at the time Palin was bouncing from college to college, Obama was bouncing from coke dealer to coke dealer.
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Well, if that is so important to you, McCains record isn't so remarkable and Palin was lucky to get out of undergrad.
• Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College for one semester in 1982
• Transferred to North Idaho College in 1982 and selected to major in business administration
•Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985 (UPDATE)
• Graduated in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a B.S. in communications and journalism
Lucky? How so? Care to elaborate? According to my calcs that was five years, quite common these days.
Not with 5 transfers.
Lets see her grades. Could be totally wrong, but here's how it looks: She failed out of Hawaii, went to community college (more her speed), took another shot at the university thing, whoops better go back to Alaska and get the tough classes done at an easier school, then transfer them back to graduate.
These attacks on Palin are getting hysterical. We have heard about her hair being twenty years out of date, she's a bad mother, and now this. As for seeing her grades, show us Obama's.He won't release them, perhaps at the time Palin was bouncing from college to college, Obama was bouncing from coke dealer to coke dealer.
,"said the pot to the kettle.
Oh, the new attack is Palin did cocaine in the 1980s?
She admits to smoking dope when it was legal in Alaska...but she didn't like it. So far, anyhow, she's not engaged in illegal drug use.
That's one place she and I differ... I would have enjoyed it. [8D]
Where did you read that it was 5 schools in 5 years? I read 6 transfers (once going back to a former school) in 6 years.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5728215
And it appears that McCain didn't even look into her college years.
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She admits to smoking dope when it was legal in Alaska...but she didn't like it. So far, anyhow, she's not engaged in illegal drug use.
That's one place she and I differ... I would have enjoyed it. [8D]
She said, and I paraphrase her:
"She smoked some marijuana when it was legal in Alaska, and unlike Bill Clinton, she Definitely inhaled."
Cuil.
I wonder if Obama got the blue-lipped look snorting coke?
Got to do another line, Michelle. Hand me the $100 bill.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Where did you read that it was 5 schools in 5 years? I read 6 transfers (once going back to a former school) in 6 years.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5728215
And it appears that McCain didn't even look into her college years.
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Originally posted by jne
* Hawaii Pacific University: Fall 1982 as a freshman in business administration program
* North Idaho College (2-year college): Spring 1983 and Fall 1983 (2 semesters as a general studies major)
* University of Idaho: Fall 1984 to Spring 1985 (journalism major with emphasis in broadcast news)
* Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985
* University of Idaho: Spring 1986, Fall 1986, Spring 1987
OK, here it is (I think):
Graduated HS Spring 1981 and then the party started.
* Hawaii-Hilo:Fall 1982 (it was too rainy there)
* Hawaii Pacific University: Fall 1982 as a freshman in business administration program
* North Idaho College (2-year college): Spring 1983 and Fall 1983 (2 semesters as a general studies major)
* University of Idaho: Fall 1984 to Spring 1985 (journalism major with emphasis in broadcast news)
* Matanuska-Susitna College, Palmer, Alaska: Fall 1985
* University of Idaho: Spring 1986, Fall 1986, Spring 1987
Leave Sarah Palin alone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi7pYuQU3RE
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Where did you read that it was 5 schools in 5 years? I read 6 transfers (once going back to a former school) in 6 years.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5728215
And it appears that McCain didn't even look into her college years.
She's got a college degree and transferred around getting it. Why do we care? Obama attended three universities. BFD. She's a great selection, she's got all of you grasping at straws.
Where on earth do you draw the conclusion that McCain didn't look into her college years?
"She attended Idaho, whose mascot is the Vandals, from fall 1984 to spring 1985."
Ooooh, oooohhh, Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! She went to a school where the mascot is the "Vandals"! That's another scandal waiting to happen.
Sarah Palin Embraces Vandalism
"It's true she's a vandal!"
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Where did you read that it was 5 schools in 5 years? I read 6 transfers (once going back to a former school) in 6 years.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5728215
And it appears that McCain didn't even look into her college years.
She's got a college degree and transferred around getting it. Why do we care? Obama attended three universities. BFD. She's a great selection, she's got all of you grasping at straws.
Where on earth do you draw the conclusion that McCain didn't look into her college years?
"She attended Idaho, whose mascot is the Vandals, from fall 1984 to spring 1985."
Ooooh, oooohhh, Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! She went to a school where the mascot is the "Vandals"! That's another scandal waiting to happen.
You were the one who wanted to examine Obama's transcript remember?
The Vandal got the handle on the scandals....
What were the other 5 schools in those remaining 5 years??
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Where did you read that it was 5 schools in 5 years? I read 6 transfers (once going back to a former school) in 6 years.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5728215
And it appears that McCain didn't even look into her college years.
She's got a college degree and transferred around getting it. Why do we care? Obama attended three universities. BFD. She's a great selection, she's got all of you grasping at straws.
Where on earth do you draw the conclusion that McCain didn't look into her college years?
"She attended Idaho, whose mascot is the Vandals, from fall 1984 to spring 1985."
Ooooh, oooohhh, Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! She went to a school where the mascot is the "Vandals"! That's another scandal waiting to happen.
You were the one who wanted to examine Obama's transcript remember?
Obama has embargoed his college grades and courses.
Courses in Beginning, Intermediate and Advanced Marxist-Leninism MIGHT not look too good to the public.
Political Science Major, right?
Studying the Mother Religion.
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Originally posted by Rico
It would have been very nice if the "Dow" would have responded with the enthusiasm that has engulfed the GOP...........![;)]
Wall Street is afraid Obama may win........
Hence, the PLUMMET.
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by jne
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Where did you read that it was 5 schools in 5 years? I read 6 transfers (once going back to a former school) in 6 years.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5728215
And it appears that McCain didn't even look into her college years.
She's got a college degree and transferred around getting it. Why do we care? Obama attended three universities. BFD. She's a great selection, she's got all of you grasping at straws.
Where on earth do you draw the conclusion that McCain didn't look into her college years?
"She attended Idaho, whose mascot is the Vandals, from fall 1984 to spring 1985."
Ooooh, oooohhh, Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! She went to a school where the mascot is the "Vandals"! That's another scandal waiting to happen.
You were the one who wanted to examine Obama's transcript remember?
Obama has embargoed his college grades and courses.
Courses in Beginning, Intermediate and Advanced Marxist-Leninism MIGHT not look too good to the public.
Political Science Major, right?
Studying the Mother Religion.
Bear, you've just explained to me why someone wouldn't want their coursework to be public information. Because people like you will point out one course and repeat it until it is stuck in our heads like a bad commercial jingle.
I sure hope he studies Marx & Lenin, as well as, Hobbes & Locke, Machiavelli, John Stuart Mill, and of the other great minds that explored politics and society. God forbid we have someone running for executive office who has a relevant academic background.
The stock market plummetted 300 points after Palin's speech and friendly bear says it is wall street being afraid of Obama winning.
He must realize that wall street is afraid of a McCain/Palin four years.
I am so glad bear is correct this time.
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The stock market plummetted 300 points after Palin's speech and friendly bear says it is wall street being afraid of Obama winning.
He must realize that wall street is afraid of a McCain/Palin four years.
I am so glad bear is correct this time.
Economic experts stated the stock market drop was due to poor retail sales, lower consumer confidence, and higher unemployment.
And, the discovery of a mysterious, large gas cloud eminating from Uranus, which drove down natural gas spot market prices.
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
The stock market plummetted 300 points after Palin's speech and friendly bear says it is wall street being afraid of Obama winning.
He must realize that wall street is afraid of a McCain/Palin four years.
I am so glad bear is correct this time.
Economic experts stated the stock market drop was due to poor retail sales, lower consumer confidence, and higher unemployment.
And, the discovery of a mysterious, large gas cloud eminating from Uranus, which drove down natural gas spot market prices.
Experts? I hope its not the same ones McCain uses to do his vetting! Since you don't note which experts one has to wonder just where your stuff comes from...The World?
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Originally posted by waterboy
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
The stock market plummetted 300 points after Palin's speech and friendly bear says it is wall street being afraid of Obama winning.
He must realize that wall street is afraid of a McCain/Palin four years.
I am so glad bear is correct this time.
Economic experts stated the stock market drop was due to poor retail sales, lower consumer confidence, and higher unemployment.
And, the discovery of a mysterious, large gas cloud eminating from Uranus, which drove down natural gas spot market prices.
Experts? I hope its not the same ones McCain uses to do his vetting! Since you don't note which experts one has to wonder just where your stuff comes from...The World?
You must be a terrible business man.
This is Yahoo news from last Thursday COB, after the DJIA dropped 340 points.
Here's the link.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080904/wall_street_box.html?.v=1
The remark about the mysterious large gas cloud around Uranus was read on Astrology Today.
[}:)]
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Really, your kidding, right? I mean, you must be kidding to somehow imply that he made bad grades and still became the president of the
HARVARD LAW REVIEW.You know Harvard law school is routinely ranked either first or second in the nation, right? Of the thousands that try to get in, only 10% are accepted. In 2009 (//%22http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/index.php/1/desc/GPALow/2009%22), the range of GPAs at Harvard was between 3.75 and 3.95. Of the 500 or so that attend Harvard, only around 40 (//%22http://www.bcgsearch.com/crc/book2005/harvard.html%22) make it to Law Review. Having competed to get on a Law Review journal, I can tell you it is extremely competitive, and very difficult to do. So, from the top 12% of the top 10% of the country, Obama is chosen to to head up the Law Review. You can't get more remarkable than that.
I am not sure why you referred to the NYT article, since it in no way backs up your claim that his career was unremarkable. I would suggest you read this:
http://www.bcgsearch.com/crc/book2005/harvard.html
That is why I am voting for him. He is someone who is firmly committed to his positions, but someone who can listen to other voices as well.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iraqniphobia
The fact that people think someone who was a sports reporter, became mayor of a town of 8000, and governor of one of the least populated states for less than two years is somehow more experienced than someone who graduated from Columbia, Harvard, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and 12 years in public service is down right baffling.
Obama has refused to release any information regarding his grades at Columbia or Harvard. Being president of the Law Review doesn't automatically say anything about his educational prowess nor leadership skills.
People who have been asked have said his time at Columbia and Harvard were rather unremarkable other than being the first black president of the review.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260
Really, your kidding, right? I mean, you must be kidding to somehow imply that he made bad grades and still became the president of the HARVARD LAW REVIEW.
You know Harvard law school is routinely ranked either first or second in the nation, right? Of the thousands that try to get in, only 10% are accepted. In 2009 (//%22http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/index.php/1/desc/GPALow/2009%22), the range of GPAs at Harvard was between 3.75 and 3.95. Of the 500 or so that attend Harvard, only around 40 (//%22http://www.bcgsearch.com/crc/book2005/harvard.html%22) make it to Law Review. Having competed to get on a Law Review journal, I can tell you it is extremely competitive, and very difficult to do. So, from the top 12% of the top 10% of the country, Obama is chosen to to head up the Law Review. You can't get more remarkable than that.
I am not sure why you referred to the NYT article, since it in no way backs up your claim that his career was unremarkable. I would suggest you read this:
http://www.bcgsearch.com/crc/book2005/harvard.html
That is why I am voting for him. He is someone who is firmly committed to his positions, but someone who can listen to other voices as well.
Then just let him show us his GRADES at Columbia and Harvard.
He's EMBARGOED them.
I suspect it is probably NOT his grades.
It is his Poli Sci major at Columbia.
He studied his mother Theology of Marxist - Leninism.
Beginning Marxist - Leninism 101. An "A".
Intermediate Marxist - Leninism 201. An "A".
and,
Advanced Marxist - Leninism 401. An "A+",
Communism 9-1-1.
He's for the Social Collective.
He's a bearded Marxist-Leninist.
WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!
Simple.
Are you REALLY voting for a Commie??
For God's Sake, save America!
Vote for McCain - Palin!
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Bear spam.
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Bear spam.
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And, his Columbia University Transcript shows WHAT courses did he take?
He's embargoes its release.
Shredding machines working overtime at Columbia U. this weekend.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I don't think she is ready. I want a vice-President that is ready and engaged in a variety of issues.
Do you believe she has better knowledge of international issues and leaders than either of the two democrats running? Do you think she has better policies and understanding of the issue of universal health care? Do you think she will discuss either of these or any other substantive issue in her speech tonight with great insight?
She was introduced as McCain's running mate five days ago. Her speech was about how she grew up and her husband was a snow-mobile racer and her family meant so much to her. She talked about how she is against pork in government because she opposed a bridge (forgetting that she was for it before).
How does that speech make her ready to be vice-president? How can you be so sure that she is ready. You are blindly defending her with no knowledge and no defense? Her only answer is to attack her attackers.
Tell me how she is ready to be the second most powerful person in the world.
How does ANYTHING that Obama's SAID in the past two years qualify him for President?
Sinators talk and talk.
Governors, well have to GOVERN.
Administer.
Budget.
Negotiate.
Sign death warrants.
Approve or veto legislation.
Call Up the National Guard as necessary.
She has ample experience to be either VP or President.
Because if you tell yourself something long enough, you tend to start believing it!
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Originally posted by USRufnex
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Bear spam.
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And, his Columbia University Transcript shows WHAT courses did he take?
He's embargoes its release.
Shredding machines working overtime at Columbia U. this weekend.
Panic, panic!!
Warning! Warning!
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