I bet he will pick a non-politician.
My guess is Meg Whitman. She is young (52), seen as bi-partisan, and was CEO of E-bay during it's growth.
If he doesn't pick her, she is going to run for Governor of California in 2010.
The Repiglicans have no surprises.....the Utah car salesman.
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I bet he will pick a non-politician.
My guess is Meg Whitman. She is young (52), seen as bi-partisan, and was CEO of E-bay during it's growth.
If he doesn't pick her, she is going to run for Governor of California in 2010.
Going nonpolitcal is an interesting theory (and he'd get a woman on the GOP ticket -- not an inconsiderable feat) but I think he's going to try to put a state in play, or at least keep one competitive. So my money's on Charlie Crist of FLA.
ROFL!
It's Fred Thompson!
http://fredpresident08.blogspot.com/2008/08/fred-thompson-is-mccains-vp-pick.html
McCain will make his announcement on August 29th.
That is the day after Obama gives his acceptance speech. McCain is trying to limit the bounce the convention gives a candidate.
It is also McCain's 72nd birthday.
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McCain will make his announcement on August 29th.
That is the day after Obama gives his acceptance speech. McCain is trying to limit the bounce the convention gives a candidate.
It is also McCain's 72nd birthday.
Day after Denver....minor correction. The Obamafest is on the 28th. Dylan's the 27th....
I guess it doesn't matter anyway.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003840273
AP correctly calls Joe Lieberman a PRICK
www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vn...
An AP story on possible vice presidential choices referred to him as "Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential prick in 2000 who now is an independent."
At least we can have a good laugh about it; the term is rather mild. Liar-man is one of the worst, most evil, lying, hypocrites on the planet- and he has a lot of competition.
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003840273
AP correctly calls Joe Lieberman a PRICK
www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vn...
An AP story on possible vice presidential choices referred to him as "Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential prick in 2000 who now is an independent."
At least we can have a good laugh about it; the term is rather mild. Liar-man is one of the worst, most evil, lying, hypocrites on the planet- and he has a lot of competition.
That says a lot about the Democrat party. Lieberman decides to follow his personal convictions and they cannibalized him for not toeing the party line on foreign policy.
How does following his own convictions make him a liar?
He is speaking at the republican convention.
I'd say Lieberman has left the democratic party.
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He is speaking at the republican convention.
I'd say Lieberman has left the democratic party.
Not until after his party threw him under the bus in '06.
I'd leave too if I were him.
This would be a bold move by McCain, it's his best chance to recruit independents who don't have war issues. Biggest liability is the anti-war crowd wouldn't dream of voting for this ticket.
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Originally posted by FOTD
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003840273
AP correctly calls Joe Lieberman a PRICK
www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vn...
An AP story on possible vice presidential choices referred to him as "Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential prick in 2000 who now is an independent."
At least we can have a good laugh about it; the term is rather mild. Liar-man is one of the worst, most evil, lying, hypocrites on the planet- and he has a lot of competition.
That says a lot about the Democrat party. Lieberman decides to follow his personal convictions and they cannibalized him for not toeing the party line on foreign policy.
How does following his own convictions make him a liar?
It doesn't. But it doesn't make him a Democrat, either.
There's following your own convictions and then there's carrying water for the other side. It's party politics: members of both sides of the aisle have to toe certain lines to keep their affiliation. Lieberman has not only been stepping over those lines, but he's been leaping over them with gusto, yelling "nanny nanny boo boo" back at his erstwhile colleagues. It's embarrassing.
I mean, let's be honest. In an election season, how can you stand on the stage with the Republican nominee and publicly criticize the Democratic nominee -- over and over and over -- and still hope to remain a Democrat? There may be political reasons to keep him in the caucus, but from this rank-and-file Dem's POV, Lieberman needs to be taken to the curb, ASAP.
McCain would be pretty stupid to pick Lieberman as his running mate. Lieberman is pro-choice, which would alienate the GOP's Christianists, big-time.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by FOTD
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003840273
AP correctly calls Joe Lieberman a PRICK
www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vn...
An AP story on possible vice presidential choices referred to him as "Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential prick in 2000 who now is an independent."
At least we can have a good laugh about it; the term is rather mild. Liar-man is one of the worst, most evil, lying, hypocrites on the planet- and he has a lot of competition.
That says a lot about the Democrat party. Lieberman decides to follow his personal convictions and they cannibalized him for not toeing the party line on foreign policy.
How does following his own convictions make him a liar?
It doesn't. But it doesn't make him a Democrat, either.
There's following your own convictions and then there's carrying water for the other side. It's party politics: members of both sides of the aisle have to toe certain lines to keep their affiliation. Lieberman has not only been stepping over those lines, but he's been leaping over them with gusto, yelling "nanny nanny boo boo" back at his erstwhile colleagues. It's embarrassing.
I mean, let's be honest. In an election season, how can you stand on the stage with the Republican nominee and publicly criticize the Democratic nominee -- over and over and over -- and still hope to remain a Democrat? There may be political reasons to keep him in the caucus, but from this rank-and-file Dem's POV, Lieberman needs to be taken to the curb, ASAP.
The Democrats took him to the curb in '06. This is what they get for turning their backs on a colleague who had a difference of opinion on the WOT.
Very few in the Democrat party came out against the war until it became expedient in the '04 election. "Let's see, how will we be different than the GOP this time? I know let's be against the war because most liberals are against the war".
Lieberman never ran for cover, nor apologized. That took a lot more balls than:
"I was before it before I was against it"
or
"Bush lied"
Busheviks did lie....and Liebermann was their Israeli sock puppy on the other side of the aisle.
Obama was never for it.....get it?
The devil worshippers are hoping it is the Repiglican in shadow Lie-berman so Rush can spew it out his arse.....
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Busheviks did lie....and Liebermann was their Israeli sock puppy on the other side of the aisle.
Obama was never for it.....get it?
The devil worshippers are hoping it is the Repiglican in shadow Lie-berman so Rush can spew it out his arse.....
Obama, like so many votes he avoided AFTER being elected to the Senate, is not on official record as being for or against it. He's a smart guy alright, doesn't leave much of a paper trail for an aspiring POTUS.
Biden is such an expert on foreign policy, he voted for Iraq then said:
"I was for it before I was against it, Bush lied".
Biden as a running mate? Big mistake, he will get crucified, Biden is all over the place on foreign policy initiatives.
Lieberman kicked himself to the curb by tossing the rules when he realized he couldn't win playing by the rules. Liberman doesn't get team sports, but he does understand a grubby, ugly kind of survival.
I love to hear my fellow Democrats rip big loser Lieberman.
And I would love to see Lieberman and McCain on the same ticket. Sure fire laugh riot.
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The Democrats took him to the curb in '06. This is what they get for turning their backs on a colleague who had a difference of opinion on the WOT.
Very few in the Democrat party came out against the war until it became expedient in the '04 election. "Let's see, how will we be different than the GOP this time? I know let's be against the war because most liberals are against the war".
Lieberman never ran for cover, nor apologized. That took a lot more balls than:
"I was before it before I was against it"
or
"Bush lied"
Naw, they never took him to the curb. They've been quietly making common cause with him on lots of votes outside of foreign policy. Remember, he left the party, not the other way around. And actually, he never left the party. He calls himself an "Independent Democrat," whatever that means. Which means he's affiliated but he isn't. Or when it suits him. Or when he's not hanging with Republicans. Or something.
'06-'09 has been a convenient time for him to move off the reservation. He could play all he wanted to, ideologically, and still hold power in a divided Senate. When every vote counts, you have to come to Lieberman.
As far as the GWOT thing goes, you say tomato, I say banana. The Dems as a party were slow to realize what most of their constituents knew, and that was how flimsy the entire construct, from soup to nuts, was. You name it -- Iraq, WMDs,and that whole mess, ignoring Afghanistan and missing Bin Laden, Guantanamo, torture and the black prison sites around the world, and in general erosion of civil liberties at home -- it's all been a sham. But the Dems were so busy conciliating and compromising with the Republicans they never looked up to see the big picture. By 2004, enough evidence had come out that, if they hadn't changed their stance, they would've been out the door. That's not flip-floppery, that's doing what they were voted in to do: represent the changing views of their people.
The alternative to "expediency" is an obstinate boulder like Bush, who in the face of all evidence, insists his course is still right. That's not moral character, that's intransigence.
Joe Lieberman (Traitor-CT) to Speak At Republican Convention
http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7622
Does not appear this schmoe will be the old wrinkley guys running mate. This is fair play for the GOP. After all, the demo's have invited the mayor of Fairbanks, Alaska to speak in Denver
Hopefully, the senate democrats will call this turd what he really is, a reich-wing rethug.
It amazes me when someone steps out from the quagmire of partisan politics to try and do the right thing for America, party-be-damned, he's castigated for it.
Personally, I'm tired of a priveleged few in the DNC and RNC dictating to the rest of us what is and is not best for America via their proxies in the Senate and HOR.
I admire guys like Lieberman and Coburn who aren't afraid to go against the flock.
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I admire guys like Lieberman and Coburn who aren't afraid to go against the flock.
When everything is coming your way, you are in the wrong lane.
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Originally posted by Conan71
I admire guys like Lieberman and Coburn who aren't afraid to go against the flock.
Even if they're horribly wrong?
They do flock. They flock with some really ugly birds.
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Originally posted by Conan71
I admire guys like Lieberman and Coburn who aren't afraid to go against the flock.
When everything is coming your way, you are in the wrong lane.
That's my point. I'm not against personal conviction, and I'm ok with disagreement within the party, but there is a point where the level of disagreement changes the fundamental nature of the disagreer. For many of us, Lieberman's discarded enough of what it means to be a Dem that he shouldn't be accorded the label anymore.
And I would suggest that it isn't the DNC who want to toss Lieberman overboard. They're moneymen, and bettors-on-sure-things, and Lieberman commands enough of both to make him palatable to the party leadership. The people who want Lieberman gone are mid-range rank and filers who think we're being played pretty much every night of the week when he shows up on stage with the opposition candidate thrashing his own party. Or ex party.
Sorry for the rant, but Lieberman pisses me off just like Zell Miller pissed me off.
A duchebag that refuses to meet the press, is a radical extremist, and a mean person.
Mean people suck.
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A duchebag that refuses to meet the press, is a radical extremist, and a mean person.
Mean people suck.
You must still be upset with your ex-wife. You've got serious wemmen issues.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by FOTD
A duchebag that refuses to meet the press, is a radical extremist, and a mean person.
Mean people suck.
You must still be upset with your ex-wife. You've got serious wemmen issues.
No, the devil loves women and respects them and admires many women. Women are devil's cake! He does not use women.
So, being the mean person you are Conan, you are wrong. Ask your ex how many times you were wrong and just plain mean.
This devil's a kind bud. He just does not understand why people the ilk of John McCain (R-Idiot) uses women and refuses to allow them to open up to the media. What are they all hiding besides her stupidity? Husbands who control their wives lose out in the end. You know that.[:P][:P][}:)][:D]