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« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2014, 10:44:54 am »



They should be looking at criminal charges for harboring/aiding/abetting a criminal!

This guy intentionally chose a path that could reasonably be shown to be attempted murder depending on illness spread.  He made a conscious effort to chance exposing many people - not just his family.  It is pure blind luck that no one has come up with it yet in his family.  It has been 20 days, so tomorrow should be the 'safe' time if the CDC is right.  And if none of the people around him has started to show symptoms yet - that probably won't be widely advertised if it happens...may take several days to come out.





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« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2014, 12:21:42 pm »

A spokesperson for Deaconess Hospital in Oklahoma City says they've finished evaluating a patient that had been isolated for exhibiting possible Ebola symptoms, and determined the patient does not have Ebola.

http://www.okcfox.com/story/26754650/patient-at-deaconess-hospital-being-evaluated-for-possible-ebola-symptoms
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« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2014, 09:04:00 am »

I guess the WHO needs to quit listening to fright wing radio, they now claim we could see up to 10,000 new cases per week and the death rate is now 70%.  Margaret Chan, the director of WHO calls it the modern era’s greatest health emergency.

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WHO: 10,000 new Ebola cases per week could be seen

GENEVA (AP) — The death rate in the Ebola outbreak has risen to 70 percent and there could be up to 10,000 new cases a week in two months, the World Health Organization warned Tuesday.

WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward gave the grim figures during a news conference in Geneva. Previously, WHO had estimated the death rate at around 50 percent.

Aylward said the 70 percent death rate was "a high mortality disease" in any circumstance and that the U.N. health agency was still focused on trying to get sick people isolated and provide treatment as early as possible.

He told reporters that if the world's response to the Ebola crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, "a lot more people will die" and there will be a huge need to deal with the spiraling numbers of cases.

For the last four weeks, there's been about 1,000 new cases per week — including suspected, confirmed and probable cases, he said, adding that the U.N. health agency is aiming to get 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak.

WHO increased its Ebola death toll tally to 4,447 people on Tuesday, nearly all of them in West Africa, from 8,914 cases.

Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia have been hardest hit nations in the current outbreak. Aylward said WHO was very concerned about the continued spread of Ebola in the three countries' capital cities —Freetown, Conakry and Monrovia.

He said the agency was still focused on trying to treat Ebola patients, despite the huge demands on the broken health systems in West Africa.

"It would be horrifically unethical to say that we're just going to isolate people," he said, noting that new strategies like handing out protective equipment to families and setting up very basic clinics — without much treatment — was a priority.

In Berlin, a U.N. medical worker infected with Ebola in Liberia died despite "intensive medical procedures." The St. Georg hospital in Leipzig said Tuesday that the 56-year-old man, whose name has not been released, died overnight of the infection.

The man tested positive for Ebola on Oct. 6, prompting Liberia's U.N. peacekeeping mission to place 41 other staff members under "close medical observation."

He arrived in Leipzig for treatment on Oct. 9. The hospital's chief executive, Dr. Iris Minde, said at the time there was no risk of infection for other people, since he was kept in a secure isolation ward specially equipped with negative pressure rooms that are hermetically sealed.

He was the third Ebola patient to be flown to Germany for treatment. The first man recovered and returned home to Senegal. A Uganda aid worker is still being treated in Frankfurt.

http://news.yahoo.com/10-000-ebola-cases-per-week-could-seen-124410379.html

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« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2014, 09:10:24 am »

I guess the WHO needs to quit listening to fright wing radio,


Why's that?
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« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2014, 09:11:59 am »

Why's that?

Swake mentioned a few pages back that all this hysteria is the fault of Rush, Fox, and Clear Channel.  So I assume Ms. Chan must be an ardent consumer of their news.
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« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2014, 09:17:42 am »

Swake mentioned a few pages back that all this hysteria is the fault of Rush, Fox, and Clear Channel.  So I assume Ms. Chan must be an ardent consumer of their news.

How many new cases in the US?  Don't think Rush, FOX and Clear channel care about West Africa.  West Africa doesn't sell commercial time.
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« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2014, 01:59:04 pm »

I guess the WHO needs to quit listening to fright wing radio, they now claim we could see up to 10,000 new cases per week and the death rate is now 70%.  Margaret Chan, the director of WHO calls it the modern era’s greatest health emergency.

Ebola was/is not a massive concern for a modern, clean, low-density society with good healthcare.  Of course that was the message. . .

The first step in an epidemiological scenario like this (both from a micro and macro perspective) is to quarantine individuals, and cut off travel to and from the hot-zone(s).  Unfortunately like every other policy decision made by this administration, it will be made only after significant pressure from the public, and it will be made too late. We will likely see several more cases, before restrictions are instituted.

That, however does not stop Ebola as a funding issue. . .as with all offerings of imminent disaster, this virus has political value to the left    Wink

The left will follow their established pattern: 
1. Find out what the populous is scared of
2. If they have no fears, create ____
3. Promote the idea that you have the only solution to ____
4. Provide a narrative where the opposition wants them to die from ____
5. Rinse and repeat.

Ebola just offers a new side-car to the current vehicles.

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« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2014, 02:14:34 pm »


The left Washington will follow their established pattern: 
1. Find out what the populous is scared of
2. If they have no fears, create ____
3. Promote the idea that you have the only solution to ____
4. Provide a narrative where the opposition wants them to die from ____
5. Rinse and repeat.

Ebola just offers a new side-car to the current vehicles.

Fixed that for you
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« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2014, 02:24:19 pm »

Fixed that for you

BREAKING:
They just discovered images of a top secret $500 million NIH Ebola research lab in California.
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« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2014, 05:50:35 pm »

This has become a Geico commercial, and the United States is acting like the group of kids who pass on the waiting car - that is running - and choose to hide behind the chainsaws!!


Stop people from coming here on airplanes from ebola affected countries - by whatever path they take.  It's not rocket science....

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« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2014, 07:02:13 pm »

This has become a Geico commercial, and the United States is acting like the group of kids who pass on the waiting car - that is running - and choose to hide behind the chainsaws!!


Stop people from coming here on airplanes from ebola affected countries - by whatever path they take.  It's not rocket science....



Can’t do that Heir, that’s racist, uncaring, and just plain fear-mongering.  You been listening to Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly...did you get Murdoched?
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« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2014, 07:36:39 pm »

Can’t do that Heir, that’s racist, uncaring, and just plain fear-mongering.  You been listening to Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly...did you get Murdoched?



I listen to them every chance I get - until I can't any more.  Usually quite a bit.  But no...I haven't been Murdoched... still have a brain - high functioning - and the ability to reason!

See Bernie LaPlante explanation of Life, the Universe, and Everything..... (third quote)...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104412/quotes

Or;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSijB9-Hw7g



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« Reply #87 on: October 15, 2014, 07:36:05 am »

And now a second health care worker has contracted Ebola in Dallas.  According to the nurse’s union, Dallas Presbyterian lacked protocols to deal with Thomas Duncan’s case.  Overall, more than 70 health care workers had contact with Duncan.  They also had contact with other patients, their own family members, etc.  Transmission of this disease seems to be much easier than other diseases which are borne in bodily fluids such as HIV.  But hey, no worries, our government will protect us from everything!

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A national nurses union is decrying an absence of protocols at the Dallas hospital where a man died of Ebola and a nurse was infected while caring for him.

Leaders of the National Nurses Union read a statement Tuesday which they said represented concerns from a number of nurses that work at Texas Health Presbyterian in Dallas. The union officials declined to identify the Dallas nurses or say how many were participating in the statement.

But they were vociferous in citing a lack of protocols on the day that Thomas Eric Duncan was admitted with extreme symptoms of Ebola.

Among the flaws cited by the group included:

insufficient garb worn by the emergency personnel
the fact that Duncan was left "for hours" in a non-quarantined zone
that his lab samples were sent in the same way that normal specimens are sent
hospital official allowed nurses involved with Duncan to take care of other patients
other ways in which the hospital did not immediately react to the situation.
 
African Ebola outbreak could result in 5-10,000 new cases weekly

"Were protocols breached?" said union spokeswoman Rose Ann DeMoro, "There were no protocols."

"These nurses are not well protected. They're not prepared to handle Ebola or any other pandemic," said DeMoro. "We are deeply alarmed."

DeMoro said the nurses who had come forward were afraid to reveal their identities "because of a culture of threat in the hospitals."

Tuesday night, Texas Health Presbyterian issued a statement in response to the nurses' charges.

"Patient and employee safety is our greatest priority and we take compliance very seriously. We have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment, including mandatory annual training and a 24-7 hotline and other mechanisms that allow for anonymous reporting. Our nursing staff is committed to providing quality, compassionate care, as we have always known, and as the world has seen firsthand in recent days. We will continue to review and respond to any concerns raised by our nurses and all employees."

Also Tuesday, the nation's top disease-fighting agency acknowledged Tuesday that federal health experts failed to do all they should have done to prevent Ebola from spreading from a Liberian man who died last week in Texas to the nurse who treated him.

 
CDC ramps up Ebola training for health care workers

Agency Director Tom Frieden outlined a series of steps designed to stop the spread of the disease in the U.S., including increased training for health care workers and changes at the Texas hospital where the virus was diagnosed to minimize the risk of more infections.

A total of 76 people at the hospital might have had exposure to Thomas Eric Duncan, and all of them are being monitored for fever and other symptoms daily, Frieden said.

That figure confirmed an Associated Press report on Monday that nurse Nina Pham was among about 70 hospital staffers who were involved in Duncan's care after he was hospitalized, based on medical records provided by Duncan's family.

 Ebola protocols reevaluated following nurse's infection

The announcement of the government's stepped-up effort came after top health officials repeatedly assured the public over the last two weeks that they were doing everything possible to control the outbreak by deploying infectious-disease specialists to the hospital where Duncan was diagnosed with Ebola and later died.

"I wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the patient - the first patient - was diagnosed. That might have prevented this infection. But we will do that from today onward with any case anywhere in the U.S.," Frieden said.

Frieden described the new response team as having some of the world's leading experts in how to care for Ebola and protect health care workers. They planned to review everything from how the isolation room is physically laid out, to what protective equipment health workers use, to waste management and decontamination.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nurses-union-dallas-hospital-lacked-ebola-protocols/

Frieden’s “Great job Brownie” moment is coming.
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« Reply #88 on: October 15, 2014, 09:16:46 am »

The media is going to make this the nurse's fault before this is all over.
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-nurse-contracted-ebola-understood-risks-153314500.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory
Nurse infected with Ebola knew risks of her work

Dosen't really change the fact that the patient she cared for should have never been here in the first place.
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« Reply #89 on: October 15, 2014, 09:27:24 am »

You know, I find it a bit ironic that the entire country freaks out when 1 person that has Ebola dies in this country.

However, 10,000 annual deaths by firearms?  Meh, who cares.
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