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Title: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: TeeDub on April 30, 2017, 10:14:03 am
I hear that the Russell Stovers at Utica Square is not getting its lease renewed.  

Supposedly their last day is May 11 and everything is currently discounted.

A store closing sign with 75% off was attached to the store this morning.  (Or so I hear.)


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 30, 2017, 10:40:35 am
I hear that the Russell Stovers Chocoladefabriken Lindt & Sprüngli AG at Utica Square is not getting its lease renewed.  

Supposedly their last day is May 11 and everything is currently discounted.

A store closing sign with 75% off was attached to the store this morning.  (Or so I hear.)

FIFY ;)

So is this Utica Square deciding not to renew the lease or the store not renewing? Apparently they may be re-branding the stores as Lindt after being purchased.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morning_call/2014/07/russell-stover-to-be-bought-for-1-5-billion.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morning_call/2014/07/russell-stover-to-be-bought-for-1-5-billion.html)

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/03/08/russell-stover-candies-lindt-profits.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/03/08/russell-stover-candies-lindt-profits.html)




Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: patric on April 30, 2017, 12:04:50 pm
FIFY ;)

So is this Utica Square deciding not to renew the lease or the store not renewing? Apparently they may be re-branding the stores as Lindt after being purchased.

With the long-term construction at their doorstep I imagine a number of businesses would be under-performing.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: cbs on April 30, 2017, 07:05:33 pm
You guys will like what's going in there. It will be a similar thing. I can't find if it's been publicly announced so I won't spill the beans until I can confirm it's public.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: sgrizzle on April 30, 2017, 08:30:31 pm
You guys will like what's going in there. It will be a similar thing. I can't find if it's been publicly announced so I won't spill the beans until I can confirm it's public.

Will it be built before or after the things replacing Petty's and Miss Jackson's?


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Red Arrow on April 30, 2017, 08:54:24 pm
You guys will like what's going in there. It will be a similar thing. I can't find if it's been publicly announced so I won't spill the beans until I can confirm it's public.

You can tell us.  We won't tell anyone.
 
 ;D



Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 30, 2017, 10:03:00 pm
You guys will like what's going in there. It will be a similar thing. I can't find if it's been publicly announced so I won't spill the beans until I can confirm it's public.


(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m82/Quattrocentric/Waiting_zps9ss2sruk.jpg)


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: cbs on April 30, 2017, 10:31:53 pm
Will it be built before or after the things replacing Petty's and Miss Jackson's?

Don't have a timeline but it's someone who doesn't putz around and is a perfect fit for Utica Square.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Dspike on May 01, 2017, 07:20:11 am
I have no actual knowledge. But based on those hints, I'm guessing Glacier Confection. Would be a good fit. If so, hope its in addition to the downtown spot.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: DowntownDan on May 01, 2017, 07:31:07 am
I have no actual knowledge. But based on those hints, I'm guessing Glacier Confection. Would be a good fit. If so, hope its in addition to the downtown spot.

Facebook comments have said its Glacier.  I actually like the idea of a local shop being there, but I get the nostalgia of Russel Stover having been there for so long.  It was unlikely to last much longer anyway because RS is being acquired by a Swiss company and has been closing shops like this for a while.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Tulsasaurus Rex on May 01, 2017, 07:44:18 am
Glacier is (also?) opening a new location in the building on Archer between Cincinnati at Detroit being rehabbed by the Kaiser Foundation.

"With nine of the 10 retail tenants confirmed, the building will include Strange Donuts, Goods Bodega, Lone Wolf restaurant and bar, Glacier Confection, Holy Mountain Records, Magic City Books, and Made." http://gtrnews.com/greater-tulsa-reporter/14554/east-village-brady-see-new-projects

Does that cut make it more or less likely they're going to Utica Sq? Maybe once you're in the mood to expand you expand a lot. On the other hand, they could already have their hands full opening one new store and don't have time for two.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: RecycleMichael on May 01, 2017, 09:29:46 am
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/russell-stover-location-to-close-at-utica-square/article_a688f3c6-834b-5679-a299-fc94aaaf6dbd.html


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: sgrizzle on May 01, 2017, 09:48:55 am
Glacier is (also?) opening a new location in the building on Archer between Cincinnati at Detroit being rehabbed by the Kaiser Foundation.

"With nine of the 10 retail tenants confirmed, the building will include Strange Donuts, Goods Bodega, Lone Wolf restaurant and bar, Glacier Confection, Holy Mountain Records, Magic City Books, and Made." http://gtrnews.com/greater-tulsa-reporter/14554/east-village-brady-see-new-projects

Does that cut make it more or less likely they're going to Utica Sq? Maybe once you're in the mood to expand you expand a lot. On the other hand, they could already have their hands full opening one new store and don't have time for two.

The two location thing concerned me too. Especially in the same timeframe. "Expanded my own business too fast" is one of the "why do you want to work here" checkboxes on the Taco Bell assistant manager application.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: hello on May 01, 2017, 10:34:50 am
Hopefully they are not moving in the Archer building and another cool tenant is. We don't need to have two chocolate shops by the same company one block away from each other.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Tulsasaurus Rex on May 01, 2017, 10:49:26 am
Hopefully they are not moving in the Archer building and another cool tenant is. We don't need to have two chocolate shops by the same company one block away from each other.

That bothered me, too.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: saintnicster on May 01, 2017, 10:56:31 am
Hopefully they are not moving in the Archer building and another cool tenant is. We don't need to have two chocolate shops by the same company one block away from each other.
http://www.okmag.com/blog/2017/01/20/sweet-success/
Quote
.. Copeland says Glacier’s building at Brady Street and Boston Avenue just couldn’t accommodate tours or classes. Glacier’s next step will change that.

“In June 2017, we’re going to be launching a new facility at [215 E. Archer St.] in downtown Tulsa, and that is going to have a full bean-to-bar production facility,” Copeland says. “We’ll be going right from the cacao pod. We’ll be doing roasting, cracking, winnowing and conching to make the chocolate from scratch from the tree. We’ll be doing tours. We’ll be doing classes. We’ll have an educational component finally in place that’s structured. It’s going to have floor-to-ceiling glass walls where you’ll be able to see the entire process. It’s going to be a lot of fun.”

The feel that I get from this article is that Glacier is moving into the new building, not just opening a second shop there...


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Tulsasaurus Rex on May 01, 2017, 01:54:33 pm
The feel that I get from this article is that Glacier is moving into the new building, not just opening a second shop there...

Cool, thanks. And of course that means something new can go in their old store front!


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: sgrizzle on May 01, 2017, 04:07:12 pm
They are moving their small store into a brand new larger location, while also opening a second location at Utica square, theoretically.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: swake on May 01, 2017, 05:05:14 pm
They are moving their small store into a brand new larger location, while also opening a second location at Utica square, theoretically.

That article says they are taking 7,000 square feet downtown and that includes space for production. I would guess the Russell Stovers storefront would just remain a storefront. That little building can't be much over 1,000 square feet.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: TeeDub on May 01, 2017, 10:08:17 pm

Fingers crossed for Cloud 9 to move there.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: guido911 on May 02, 2017, 03:03:13 am
Fingers crossed for Cloud 9 to move there.


I swear to the Almighty I was going to post this exact message here.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: cbs on May 02, 2017, 09:21:56 am
You guys don't miss anything!

Answer is, all of the above. New big Archer building location AND new store in former Russell Stover's location.

http://ktul.com/news/local/russell-stovers-utica-square-location-closing

Cheers!

[edited for clarification]


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Oil Capital on May 02, 2017, 10:45:24 am
According to the KTUL story, it opened in Utica Square in 1952 but apparently didn't become a "staple" in Utica Square until 1962. (Someone needs to brush up on their math skills.)

It's good to confirm that Utica Square is not just terminating leases helter-skelter with no plans for replacement tenants (as they apparently did a couple years ago...)


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 02, 2017, 11:24:15 am
It was bad enough when they closed 71st store - this is ridiculous!   (We went to both on a fairly regular basis).

I heard a couple months ago that Lindt had bought them and knew right then it was gonna be the end of Russell Stover.  Get rid of solid, mid-scale chocolate - not like a good chocolatier, but meets a good price point value - and insert just another wax based Hershey's style mess.  It's a shame.


Guess we will have to settle for Godiva' in the mall...if they are still there - haven't been there in a long time!

I did get to spend 3 days at Godiva's factory in Pennsylvania a few years ago, working on the roof, surrounded by the smells of chocolate!  Break time was always in the retail shop downstairs looking for bargains.  Was able to bring back about 20 lbs of chocolate at about $1.50 a pound (factory 'seconds') as carry on luggage!  Filled the plane with aroma of chocolate - people's heads were exploding...!



Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: sgrizzle on May 02, 2017, 07:46:50 pm
You guys don't miss anything!

Answer is, all of the above. New big Archer building location AND new Russell Stover's location.

http://ktul.com/news/local/russell-stovers-utica-square-location-closing

Cheers!

New Russell Stover's location?


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: cbs on May 03, 2017, 10:31:21 am
New Russell Stover's location?

I edited to clarify - new Glacier in the former Russell Stover's location, not another Russell Stover's.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 03, 2017, 10:35:29 am
http://www.okmag.com/blog/2017/01/20/sweet-success/
The feel that I get from this article is that Glacier is moving into the new building, not just opening a second shop there...


Sounds like it may be a left-coast kind of place...that would be nice!   Maybe get some freshly made nibs!!



Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: DowntownDan on May 03, 2017, 12:03:20 pm
New Russell Stover's location?

Wal-mart, aisle 4.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Oil Capital on December 21, 2017, 11:43:27 am
anyone know the status of Glacier taking the Russell Stover space at Utica Square?


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: dsjeffries on December 21, 2017, 11:51:00 am
anyone know the status of Glacier taking the Russell Stover space at Utica Square?

They've been open since at least Black Friday. I stopped in and bought a few things that day. Nice people, same great chocolate.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 21, 2017, 02:05:42 pm
I spoke with Glacier in the Tulsa Arts District a few days back, they are also frantically working to get the new place open.  New place will be a "coffee bar" type of place, focused on the actual chocolate and drinks.  The current  downtown location will also stay, focusing on truffles and the like.  All around pretty awesome!


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 23, 2017, 07:55:56 pm
They've been open since at least Black Friday. I stopped in and bought a few things that day. Nice people, same great chocolate.


Selling Russel Stovers?  Or are they chocolatiers??

Guess I will have to go see them...


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: hello on December 26, 2017, 12:52:32 pm
I spoke with Glacier in the Tulsa Arts District a few days back, they are also frantically working to get the new place open.  New place will be a "coffee bar" type of place, focused on the actual chocolate and drinks.  The current  downtown location will also stay, focusing on truffles and the like.  All around pretty awesome!

Lots of places to get coffee in a couple block radius...Chimera, Gypsy, Antoinette, Magic City, Press, now Glacier, Shuffles (I think) and the Flats on Archer I thought was gonna have coffee on the first floor. I personally only enjoy the coffee from Chimera but still, good to have options. 


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: BKDotCom on December 27, 2017, 08:45:33 am

Selling Russel Stovers?  Or are they chocolatiers??


WAT?


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: joiei on December 27, 2017, 10:01:38 am

Selling Russel Stovers?  Or are they chocolatiers??



They make their own chocolates that are very good.  I understand they will be starting to manufacture chocolates from bean to bar. 


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 27, 2017, 05:15:01 pm
WAT?


Wondering if they did the chocolate in house - next post clarified it for me.


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 27, 2017, 05:15:28 pm
They make their own chocolates that are very good.  I understand they will be starting to manufacture chocolates from bean to bar.  


Gonna have to go there soon.  Sounds great.  Have been to a couple places like that in Seattle area and really like nibs.




Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: BKDotCom on December 27, 2017, 07:43:19 pm

Gonna have to go there soon.  Sounds great.  Have been to a couple places like that in Seattle area and really like nibs.


Brady District location currently has much better selection.
But Utica square has more free samples  :)


Title: Re: Russell Stovers to close?
Post by: Oil Capital on January 02, 2018, 09:31:24 am
If I were Glacier, I'd be complaining to my landlord (Utica Square). Glacier is still not shown on the Utica Square map; Nothing has been posted in their "News" section; and worst of all... a search of the Utica Square site for "chocolate" brings up a lovely promotional piece for Russell Stover, but no mention of Glacier.