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Title: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: cynical on May 14, 2012, 08:23:15 am
Fountains in roundabouts just don't seem to be a good combination.  San Antonio is throwing in the towel on theirs. They are removing it and will replace it with greenery. What's the hold up on the Bartlett Square fountain, anyway?

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_10284.shtml (http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_10284.shtml)



Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: Townsend on May 14, 2012, 08:26:01 am
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Neighbors will help the city decide what to put in its place.

That'll go well.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: TheArtist on May 14, 2012, 07:39:43 pm
Egads, hit by 26 drunk drivers in only 3 years.   I don't know why on earth they are thining of removing that fountain though.   Better have them hit the fountain than you or me.  Remove the fountain, just gonna up the chance of those drunk drivers hitting something, or someone, else.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: sauerkraut on May 15, 2012, 11:57:21 am
I don't like 'em.... Keep the runnabouts in Europe.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: Hoss on May 15, 2012, 12:02:17 pm
I don't like 'em.... Keep the runnabouts in Europe.

Wow..it's 'roundabout'.

Last I checked roundabouts were all over America, but probably not in Omaha so you wouldn't be used to them.  I drive the Admiral/Mingo Traffic Circle every day at least twice.  Technically, that's a 'rotary' and not a 'runnabout'.

 ::)


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: Townsend on May 15, 2012, 12:06:01 pm
I don't like 'em.... Keep the runnabouts in Europe.

Seriously, who is this?  I claim shenanigans. 

You're doing a pretty good job though.

It must be hard to fake mental illness.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: LandArchPoke on May 15, 2012, 07:09:44 pm
Fountains in roundabouts just don't seem to be a good combination.  San Antonio is throwing in the towel on theirs. They are removing it and will replace it with greenery. What's the hold up on the Bartlett Square fountain, anyway?

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_10284.shtml (http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_10284.shtml)



They must have had a lot of Owasso Cheerleaders move to San Antonio in the last few years.  ;D

I don't like 'em.... Keep the runnabouts in Europe.

Ah yes, European socialism is invading our street planning with these fancy communist runnabouts


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: godboko71 on May 16, 2012, 09:33:07 am
Oh noo traffic calming with less safety issues as a traditional intersection. RUN!


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: AquaMan on May 16, 2012, 11:50:33 am
Just drove through one in OKC near the St. Anthony's hospital there. Really moved traffic smoothly and quickly. No signs of Owasso cheerleaders having been there. Perhaps them Thunder people has more smarts than us Tulsey sophisticates?


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: Townsend on May 16, 2012, 12:44:09 pm
Ireland has them all over.  Far superior in my opinion.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: nathanm on May 16, 2012, 12:55:20 pm
Just drove through one in OKC near the St. Anthony's hospital there.

Don't post and drive.

(http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/50531-image/jtext.jpg)


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: sauerkraut on May 18, 2012, 09:24:01 am
A few years ago in Hilliard Ohio (a suburb of Columbus, Ohio)  the city was  rebuilding some 2-lane streets and installed those "Run-a-bouts" at the intersections, I did not like it, maybe I'm old fashioned but I'd just as soon have a stop sign, Run-a-bouts take up alot of space too. Maybe they are something that has to grow on you and something that takes getting used to. I drive that run-a-bout on Mingo & Admiral more than I'd like to- but that's only because I-244 is such a mess and choked with traffic with all the const. work going on it's less hassle to take that run-a-bout to highway 169 than to mess with I-244.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: Townsend on May 18, 2012, 11:45:15 am
A few years ago in Hilliard Ohio (a suburb of Columbus, Ohio)  the city was  rebuilding some 2-lane streets and installed those "Run-a-bouts" at the intersections, I did not like it, maybe I'm old fashioned but I'd just as soon have a stop sign, Run-a-bouts take up alot of space too. Maybe they are something that has to grow on you and something that takes getting used to. I drive that run-a-bout on Mingo & Admiral more than I'd like to- but that's only because I-244 is such a mess and choked with traffic with all the const. work going on it's less hassle to take that run-a-bout to highway 169 than to mess with I-244.

A runabout:

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4Z4Kh1Tyg0mmzGLQkuAY7N5LgtVX5OP6W11LgDLaPIY6XGEd6bw)


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: sauerkraut on May 19, 2012, 09:02:11 am
A runabout:

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4Z4Kh1Tyg0mmzGLQkuAY7N5LgtVX5OP6W11LgDLaPIY6XGEd6bw)
Are you really sure? That looks like a "Walk-a-'bout" to me one of the early models at that. ???


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: Red Arrow on May 19, 2012, 09:32:02 am
A few years ago in Hilliard Ohio (a suburb of Columbus, Ohio)  the city was  rebuilding some 2-lane streets and installed those "Run-a-bouts" at the intersections, I did not like it, maybe I'm old fashioned but I'd just as soon have a stop sign, Run-a-bouts take up alot of space too. Maybe they are something that has to grow on you and something that takes getting used to. I drive that run-a-bout on Mingo & Admiral more than I'd like to- but that's only because I-244 is such a mess and choked with traffic with all the const. work going on it's less hassle to take that run-a-bout to highway 169 than to mess with I-244.

Roundabouts are not the answer to every intersection.  They are to some.  I suggest you read about them.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/research/safety/00068/



Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: sgrizzle on May 21, 2012, 01:34:00 pm
A runabout:

(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4Z4Kh1Tyg0mmzGLQkuAY7N5LgtVX5OP6W11LgDLaPIY6XGEd6bw)

(http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/tumblr_la2rp8bgAw1qa6ql2o1_500.gif)


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: PonderInc on May 25, 2012, 09:43:53 am
What's the hold up on the Bartlett Square fountain, anyway?

Still in design phase, I guess.  I was at a presentation a while back and Howell & Vancuren showed an example similar to that of the proposed design.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7268089002_bbb6c1c153.jpg)

If memory serves, the idea was that if a car drove over it, the fountain wouldn't get hurt (though I guess the car might need an alignment...)  Thus the "under carriage wash" comments... 

What scares me is that just the other day, I saw a young child break away from his mom to sprint to the current fountain "box."  (He wanted to climb up on it.)  The kid didn't look left or right, he just ran for it.  Fortunately, there wasn't any traffic at the time.  I'm worried that if the fountain looks like a splash pad in the middle of the street, it won't be good for kids and traffic to mix in the middle of Main St.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: Townsend on May 25, 2012, 09:46:45 am
What scares me is that just the other day, I saw a young child break away from his mom to sprint to the current fountain "box."  (He wanted to climb up on it.)  The kid didn't look left or right, he just ran for it.  Fortunately, there wasn't any traffic at the time.  I'm worried that if the fountain looks like a splash pad in the middle of the street, it won't be good for kids and traffic to mix in the middle of Main St.


Leash 'em or keep control of 'em. 

Drivers be vigilant.  There be pedestrians here.


Title: Re: Fountains and roundabouts
Post by: carltonplace on May 25, 2012, 09:55:31 am
What scares me is that just the other day, I saw a young child break away from his mom to sprint to the current fountain "box."  (He wanted to climb up on it.)  The kid didn't look left or right, he just ran for it.  Fortunately, there wasn't any traffic at the time.  I'm worried that if the fountain looks like a splash pad in the middle of the street, it won't be good for kids and traffic to mix in the middle of Main St.


I think the Owasso cheerleaders swing by after 2AM which is Fountain DEFCON 1 alert period