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« Reply #945 on: August 01, 2018, 02:22:26 pm » |
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Strange...seems like 796 isn't quite there yet. I wonder why?
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #947 on: August 03, 2018, 09:26:13 am » |
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Five- and six-figure donors to anti-788 campaign: Arvest Bank: $25,000 BancFirst Corp.: $10,000 Chesapeake Energy Corp.: $25,000 Chickasaw Nation: $100,000 Cimarex Energy Co.: $75,000 ConocoPhillips: $50,000 Continental Resources: $100,000 Cox Communications: $25,000 Creek Real Estate (Enid): $10,000 Devon Energy Corp.: $100,000 Dolese Bros. Co. (OKC): $25,000 Enable Midstream Partners: $25,000 Forward Oklahoma City (through Greater OKC Chamber): $190,000 Gulfport Energy Corp.: $50,000 Helmerich & Payne: $15,000 IBC Bank: $20,000 Love's Travel Stops & Country Stores: $25,000 Newfield Exploration Co.: $100,000 OG&E Energy Corp.: $25,000 Oklahoma Hospital Association: $25,000 Oklahoma State Medical Association: $75,000 Phillips 66: $25,000 Robert Funk (CEO of Express Employment Professionals): $10,000 Robert Howard II (retired Mercedes-Benz dealer): $50,000 Smart Approaches to Marijuana (advocacy group in Virginia): $10,000 Tulsa's Future (through Tulsa Regional Chamber): $25,000 https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/energy-firms-top-list-of-biggest-donors-to-campaign-opposing/article_9273036e-a644-570e-8595-55e21ee94c80.html
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #948 on: August 03, 2018, 10:02:53 am » |
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Five- and six-figure donors to anti-788 campaign: Arvest Bank: $25,000 BancFirst Corp.: $10,000 Chesapeake Energy Corp.: $25,000 Chickasaw Nation: $100,000 Cimarex Energy Co.: $75,000 ConocoPhillips: $50,000 Continental Resources: $100,000 Cox Communications: $25,000 Creek Real Estate (Enid): $10,000 Devon Energy Corp.: $100,000 Dolese Bros. Co. (OKC): $25,000 Enable Midstream Partners: $25,000 Forward Oklahoma City (through Greater OKC Chamber): $190,000 Gulfport Energy Corp.: $50,000 Helmerich & Payne: $15,000 IBC Bank: $20,000 Love's Travel Stops & Country Stores: $25,000 Newfield Exploration Co.: $100,000 OG&E Energy Corp.: $25,000 Oklahoma Hospital Association: $25,000 Oklahoma State Medical Association: $75,000 Phillips 66: $25,000 Robert Funk (CEO of Express Employment Professionals): $10,000 Robert Howard II (retired Mercedes-Benz dealer): $50,000 Smart Approaches to Marijuana (advocacy group in Virginia): $10,000 Tulsa's Future (through Tulsa Regional Chamber): $25,000 https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/energy-firms-top-list-of-biggest-donors-to-campaign-opposing/article_9273036e-a644-570e-8595-55e21ee94c80.htmlGood to know. Cox is the only one of those I buy from, with just an occasional stop at Love's. Gonna cut cable loose and it will be easy to stop going to Love's.
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #949 on: August 03, 2018, 10:46:00 am » |
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Good to know. Cox is the only one of those I buy from, with just an occasional stop at Love's. Gonna cut cable loose and it will be easy to stop going to Love's.
The Cox opposition to medical marijuana is a bit of a suprise because their top TV station in this market came out in favor of meducal marijuana. http://www.fox23.com/videos/news/fox-rant-the-case-for-medical-marijuana/vCM4X8/Its amazing how many of these large corporations bankrolled the opposition because they were apparently led to believe it would legalize stoned employees, and didnt bother reading the measure to discover otherwise.
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #950 on: August 04, 2018, 06:18:09 pm » |
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Oklahoma's zero-tolerance DUI metabolite law is illegitimate, not targeting drunks so much as sinners. The law is based on the premise that since marijuana was illegal, any finding of the drug (no matter how old or minuscule, might as well be considered "impairment" even though a person might not actually be impaired. There are a lot of "gaps" the legislature needs to fill with Medical Marijuana lawmaking https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/what-gaps-will-the-legislature-need-to-fill-in-medical/article_7c268d5d-e850-59ed-8ec1-448fed51a5ec.htmlbut our sham DUI law isnt even on the list to be considered. Taking into account all the ramifications (revenue, public safety fears), calling a special session of the legislature isnt that outrageous a suggestion when you consider the earliest look at the issues wouldnt be until next February.
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #951 on: August 07, 2018, 08:25:05 am » |
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Well then...
Green the Vote fabricated signatures (for presumably both the recreational petition and the 'hands off the medical SQ' petition), admitted to it last night.
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« Reply #952 on: August 07, 2018, 08:30:21 am » |
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Well then...
Green the Vote fabricated signatures (for presumably both the recreational petition and the 'hands off the medical SQ' petition), admitted to it last night.
Source? EDIT: NM, found a source. Newon6 in their headlines.
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Libertarianism is a system of beliefs for people who think adolescence is the epitome of human achievement.
Global warming isn't real because it was cold today. Also great news: world famine is over because I just ate - Stephen Colbert.
Somebody find Guido an ambulance to chase...
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« Reply #953 on: August 07, 2018, 09:40:58 am » |
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Well then...
Green the Vote fabricated signatures (for presumably both the recreational petition and the 'hands off the medical SQ' petition), admitted to it last night.
That is insane...what possible motivation could there be for that other than someone inside actually trying to shoot it down... Geez... Or they were partying just a little bit too early in the process!! Disappointing...now there is gonna be a much bigger mountain to climb to start over again!!
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #954 on: August 07, 2018, 10:11:00 am » |
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Well then...
Green the Vote fabricated signatures (for presumably both the recreational petition and the 'hands off the medical SQ' petition), admitted to it last night.
No they did not "fabricate signatures." One of the board inflated the count of signatures to appear higher, with the intent of motivating voters. There's a big difference between exaggerating the number of signatures for PR and actually forging signatures. Had someone fabricated signatures they would have been looking at some time behind bars, but that apparently wasnt the case. Its a bad tactic, as the actual numbers dont always catch up to the forecast. https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/marijuana/i-have-let-you-down-green-the-vote-leaders-inflated/article_7f96071a-03a2-5bf7-ad1b-5d14ffe079a6.html
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #955 on: August 07, 2018, 10:58:50 am » |
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They may not have fabricated actual signatures on a petition, but saying you have ~60,000 more signatures than you actually have is definitely a fabrication. If they were looking to build trust and credibility with the public, this is not the way to do it.
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« Reply #956 on: August 07, 2018, 11:18:02 am » |
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They may not have fabricated actual signatures on a petition, but saying you have ~60,000 more signatures than you actually have is definitely a fabrication. If they were looking to build trust and credibility with the public, this is not the way to do it.
you mean like the same way that the medical commission used bribes and the like to get their way in the drafting of the rules for MM?
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Libertarianism is a system of beliefs for people who think adolescence is the epitome of human achievement.
Global warming isn't real because it was cold today. Also great news: world famine is over because I just ate - Stephen Colbert.
Somebody find Guido an ambulance to chase...
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« Reply #957 on: August 07, 2018, 12:35:44 pm » |
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They may not have fabricated actual signatures on a petition, but saying you have ~60,000 more signatures than you actually have is definitely a fabrication. If they were looking to build trust and credibility with the public, this is not the way to do it.
Not a fabrication - it was a flat out lie! Very disappointing they seemed to think lying would somehow 'help' the cause - believers would be more likely to respond/mobilize if they saw it falling short. I thought it was doing well, so didn't get petitions to have signed. If I had known the truth, I would have gotten some blank sheets and hit up everyone I know - it is a pain to search out the locations and travel there... Shame on me! I didn't go get some and do that anyway...!
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #958 on: August 07, 2018, 02:35:19 pm » |
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you mean like the same way that the medical commission used bribes and the like to get their way in the drafting of the rules for MM?
Yes, lying about the number of signatures or being unable to count names with a 50% accuracy will cause people not to trust you in the same way ignoring the clear language of the initiative and using bribes to change the rules will cause people not to trust you. It will be interesting to see if the legislative group that has had Green the Vote involved in the discussion of implementing medical marijuana drops them.
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« Reply #959 on: August 07, 2018, 02:38:07 pm » |
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Not a fabrication - it was a flat out lie!
Very disappointing they seemed to think lying would somehow 'help' the cause - believers would be more likely to respond/mobilize if they saw it falling short. I thought it was doing well, so didn't get petitions to have signed. If I had known the truth, I would have gotten some blank sheets and hit up everyone I know - it is a pain to search out the locations and travel there...
Shame on me! I didn't go get some and do that anyway...!
It was an odd strategy that does not appear to be well thought out. Maybe Jeff Spicoli was heading up the operation.
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