Do students have the same rights as cattle?

[patric]

I like the idea of having kids scan their ID to get into a restroom. Restrooms are one of the hardest places to keep safe in a school. (You can't install cameras in them and faculty never go in because they have their own restrooms.) It's a prime location for bullying, vandalism and drug deals. Because schools have a primary responsibility of keeping kids safe, courts have given a wider latitude to school officials concerning the right to privacy. School officials do not need probable cause to search a student's car, locker or backpack. They only need reasonable suspicion that the student is breaking a school rule. The right to privacy has to be balanced against the school's interest in safety and student discipline. It's obviously too intrusive to install cameras in student restrooms, but having kids scan their ID does not strike me as too intrusive, and it gives a record of who was in the restroom at what times.

There's nothing to stop a bully from taking someone else s ID, or several people walking thru a door on one persons card swipe.

[shadows]

In the recent insinuations, accusations, and disclosures by the teachers/students sexual actives, the constant surveillance of the species could circumvent the need for further action as the beast’s and man are partially defined on this form as of a common ancestor,  the cattle and the man species are driven by the same desires, being commanded by nature to reproduce.  The use a locating devised at all time could be construed to be an asset in a crime infested society if the locating devises were common among the educating process.                 

[custosnox]

I like the idea of having kids scan their ID to get into a restroom. Restrooms are one of the hardest places to keep safe in a school. (You can't install cameras in them and faculty never go in because they have their own restrooms.) It's a prime location for bullying, vandalism and drug deals. Because schools have a primary responsibility of keeping kids safe, courts have given a wider latitude to school officials concerning the right to privacy. School officials do not need probable cause to search a student's car, locker or backpack. They only need reasonable suspicion that the student is breaking a school rule. The right to privacy has to be balanced against the school's interest in safety and student discipline. It's obviously too intrusive to install cameras in student restrooms, but having kids scan their ID does not strike me as too intrusive, and it gives a record of who was in the restroom at what times.

How would this be any different from just installing a camera outside of the bathroom?  Besides, this just tells who goes in and out, not what happens in there.

[lalumna]

How would this be any different from just installing a camera outside of the bathroom?  Besides, this just tells who goes in and out, not what happens in there.

Just additional accountability. Kids already have barcodes on their IDs, which are used to purchase their meals. If RFIDs become a cost-effective alternative that has additional uses, I don't see a problem with using them to provide additional security in a school. Rather than pulling up camera footage and gathering all the principals around to try and identify one kid out of a student population of 2000, you could look at the log.