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Title: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 01, 2013, 11:59:17 am Passed and signed today!
House Bill 1909 requires able able-bodied individuals, ages 18 to 50 who are not disabled or raising a child, to perform at least 20 hours of work activities as a condition of receiving food stamps. Thank you speaker Shannon. Oklahoma just got a little better today. (https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/554437_451536178246788_1054341234_n.jpg) Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Conan71 on May 01, 2013, 12:22:27 pm Wait?!?!?! House Speaker Shannon is...b-b-b-black?!?!?
Not possible! Remember the Oklahoma House is full of racist, homophobic, xenophobes! Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: RecycleMichael on May 01, 2013, 12:24:36 pm Wait?!?!?! House Speaker Shannon is...b-b-b-black?!?!? Why do you go there? Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 01, 2013, 01:03:57 pm Looks Oklahoman to me.
Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: takemebacktotulsa on May 01, 2013, 01:50:53 pm I was on food stamps a couple of years ago, and I was working 40+ hours per week. They helped me out tremendously.
A lot of people don't realize that someone can work 40-50 hours per week at minimum wage and STILL qualify for food stamps. What the state needs to (but they never will) is raise the minimum wage to a humane number. AKA a living wage. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 01, 2013, 02:16:50 pm I was on food stamps a couple of years ago, and I was working 40+ hours per week. They helped me out tremendously. A lot of people don't realize that someone can work 40-50 hours per week at minimum wage and STILL qualify for food stamps. What the state needs to (but they never will) is raise the minimum wage to a humane number. AKA a living wage. On the contrary, I think everyone realizes that. Food stamps are designed to be temporary, just as a minimum wage job is. This law ensures that people like you have the availability of food stamps when you need them, and the other people, those unwilling to lift a finger to help themselves, are given a bit more encouragement. Necessity is an effective teacher. Being poor sucks by design. As a result of the discomfort of being poor, people like you strive to improve themselves, their skill-sets and seek better employment with higher income. If we guaranteed everyone a "living wage," then more productive workers would be comfortable just working a "living wage" and the unskilled would simply end up being chronically unemployed. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ct1Moeaa-W8[/youtube] Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Conan71 on May 01, 2013, 02:31:48 pm Looks Oklahoman to me. Actually looks like he and Tiger Woods were separated at birth. Uncanny resemblance. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: cannon_fodder on May 01, 2013, 04:48:17 pm Quote homophobic, xenophobes. . . Well, that part is true. Luckily the xenophobia is currently reserves for non-Christians/non-Jews (especially Muslims) and Hispanics. The homophobia is also creeping away, but still very common even in the State House. Overall this looks like a good bill: http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2013-14%20ENR/hB/HB1909%20ENR.PDF Quote BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA: SECTION 1. AMENDATORY 56 O.S. 2011, Section 241.3, is amended to read as follows: Section 241.3 A. Except as otherwise provided by law or waiver, all able-bodied recipients eighteen (18) years of age to fifty (50) years of age, who are not disabled or raising minor children, may receive food stamps for only three (3) months in each thirty-six-month period except in months in which such recipients are employed for at least twenty (20) or more hours per week. The Department of Human Services shall enforce the provisions of this section and any approved waivers or other provisions pursuant to law in effect for this state as of the effective date of this act in designated areas and populations. B. 1. A family applying for food stamps after the fifteenth (15th) day of each month shall be eligible to receive the total amount of their initial allotment and their regular first allotment. 2. A household allotment of food stamps may be reduced by up to twenty-five percent (25%) if a family is sanctioned in another program established pursuant to the Statewide Temporary Assistance Responsibility System. 3. An individual in a treatment center shall designate the treatment center as the recipient of such individual’s food stamp allotment. 4. Operating procedures for the food stamp programs in local offices may vary to reflect local differences. 5. The Department is authorized to use the amount of a household food stamp allotment to subsidize a job under a work supplementation or support program. C. Beginning October 1, 2013, the Department of Human Services shall not request a waiver to provide Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program services to able-bodied adults without dependents. [underlined in the original] SECTION 2. This act shall become effective September 1, 2013. It appears there is a waiver provision is something strange is going on, I wonder what the definition of "abled bodied" means, and section "C" leaves me a bit confused... but the intent seem sound. Entitlement reform HAS to happen. This is a reasonable attempt at entitlement reform while protecting the purpose of the benefit and not wasting taxpayer money on either lazy people, scammers, or on worthless "controls" to make legislators feel tough. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 01, 2013, 06:39:13 pm Luckily the xenophobia is currently reserves for non-Christians/non-Jews (especially Muslims) and Hispanics. The homophobia is also creeping away, but still very common even in the State House. Love the satire! Not sure the homophobia is creeping away. It is common just about everywhere I go. The rednecks and 'good ole boys' just can't seem to let it go - no matter how irrelevant it is to their lives. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Conan71 on May 01, 2013, 09:16:55 pm Love the satire! Not sure the homophobia is creeping away. It is common just about everywhere I go. The rednecks and 'good ole boys' just can't seem to let it go - no matter how irrelevant it is to their lives. Probably helps them divert focus from their relationship with the sheep herd. Baaaaahhh! Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 02, 2013, 06:40:05 am Love the satire! Not sure the homophobia is creeping away. It is common just about everywhere I go. The rednecks and 'good ole boys' just can't seem to let it go - no matter how irrelevant it is to their lives. Don't forget Alektorophobia. I hear it's big in Oklahoma. Not so much in Arkansas. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 02, 2013, 06:44:20 am Well, that part is true. Luckily the xenophobia is currently reserves for non-Christians/non-Jews (especially Muslims) and Hispanics. The homophobia is also creeping away, but still very common even in the State House. Overall this looks like a good bill: http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2013-14%20ENR/hB/HB1909%20ENR.PDF It appears there is a waiver provision is something strange is going on, I wonder what the definition of "abled bodied" means, and section "C" leaves me a bit confused... but the intent seem sound. Entitlement reform HAS to happen. This is a reasonable attempt at entitlement reform while protecting the purpose of the benefit and not wasting taxpayer money on either lazy people, scammers, or on worthless "controls" to make legislators feel tough. My only concern is that the bill is only 3 pages long which may anger some people used to larger page counts for legislation, and there is no mention of funding for a coyote insemination facility in Sallisaw. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Red Arrow on May 02, 2013, 06:50:47 am and there is no mention of funding for a coyote insemination facility in Sallisaw. That's because they moved it to Muldrow to keep it out of the public's eye. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Conan71 on May 02, 2013, 07:37:52 am That's because they moved it to Muldrow to keep it out of the public's eye. ;D Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: DTowner on May 02, 2013, 10:12:38 am It appears there is a waiver provision is something strange is going on, I wonder what the definition of "abled bodied" means, and section "C" leaves me a bit confused... but the intent seem sound. Entitlement reform HAS to happen. This is a reasonable attempt at entitlement reform while protecting the purpose of the benefit and not wasting taxpayer money on either lazy people, scammers, or on worthless "controls" to make legislators feel tough. The phrase "able bodied" is from the Food Stamp Act as it was reformed as part of welfare reform act of 1996 and was defined by the food stamp regulations. The 1996 reform placed a time limit for benefits to any able bodied person between the ages of 18-50 with no dependents (among many other changes). Many of the reforms in the 1996 act have been seriously eroded since its enactment. To implement this new provision, Oklahoma will have to get a waiver from the feds. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 02, 2013, 10:56:25 am Probably helps them divert focus from their relationship with the sheep herd. Baaaaahhh! .....where the men are men, and the sheep are nervous....? Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 02, 2013, 10:58:13 am Don't forget Alektorophobia. I hear it's big in Oklahoma. Not so much in Arkansas. I see it regularly related to geese, but not so much chickens anymore. We love our chickens - the ones bred with pretty colors and made to fight!! Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 02, 2013, 11:18:20 am I see it regularly related to geese, but not so much chickens anymore. We love our chickens - the ones bred with pretty colors and made to fight!! . . .like mine breaded. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 02, 2013, 12:38:47 pm . . .like mine breaded. Gizzards for lunch today. Yum! Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 02, 2013, 12:52:32 pm Gizzards for lunch today. Yum! Too chewy. I'll be cooking up a few birds this weekend. Of course I have my own way. ;D (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8130/8702898918_340ed65b49.jpg) Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: RecycleMichael on May 02, 2013, 01:07:47 pm Gizzards for lunch today. Yum! I love gizzards, but they ain't good for me. I got some good ones over at the new chicken place on Sheridan. It used to be Famous Recipe and now is called Aunt Bee's. Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 02, 2013, 03:19:53 pm This was Chicken Express. In Moore today at lunch time.
Title: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 02, 2013, 03:21:29 pm Too chewy. I'll be cooking up a few birds this weekend. Of course I have my own way. ;D (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8130/8702898918_340ed65b49.jpg) YUM!!!! Any description on how to reach that point of ecstasy? Title: Re: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: Gaspar on May 02, 2013, 06:19:16 pm Show up on Saturday and I will show you.
Title: Re: Re: Oklahoma Welfare Reform Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 06, 2013, 06:29:49 pm Show up on Saturday and I will show you. Sorry I missed it. Too much life getting in the way.... maybe next time! |