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Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: tim huntzinger on October 31, 2008, 07:46:39 am I was undecided on the Commissioner race until I read this column by Ms. Keith in the Urban Tulsa Weakly. Awesomeness!
Setting the Record Straight (http://"http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A25205") In the most recent issue of Urban Tulsa, Michael Bates endorsed Sally Bell for Tulsa County Commissioner. In doing so, he made numerous accusations about my campaign and me that have no factual basis of any kind. Consider the following: 1) He engaged in an absurd attempt to compare my approach to County government to that of the defeated incumbent, Randi Miller. Aside from his blatant partisan political motivation for doing so, it is impossible to comprehend any conceivable factual basis for Mr. Bates' comments. Please consider the following: a) Prior to the Republican primary, the record was clear that there were problems with Ms. Miller's work ethic and attendance at critical meetings. In sharp contrast, I have no such record - whether in a career as a TV journalist, reporter and anchor or during my service to this City as an aide to former Mayor Bill La Fortune. My 31-year work history has never been questioned in either the private or public sector. Mr. Bates' attempted analogy to portray me as a slacker cannot stand up to scrutiny. b) Prior to the Republican primary, there were complaints that Ms. Miller was engaging in the business of the County "behind closed doors" in violation of the Open Records Act. When I launched my campaign - months before Ms. Bell even entered the race - I identified transparency and openness in government as one of my principal objectives. I spoke about it at every public opportunity and it has been included in all of my literature from the very beginning of the campaign. Again, Mr. Bates' ignores the facts. c) Prior to the Republican primary, there were allegations that Ms. Miller had engaged in decision-making based upon insider dealings or contributions to her campaign. Nothing in my background or record could conceivably support any similar allegation. d) Mr. Bates noted that at least one of Ms. Bell's priorities was "reducing waste and mismanagement throughout county government..." Presumably, this idea is to be contrasted with Randi Miller's record. Again, months before Ms. Bell even announced her candidacy, I had already identified as one of my goals to streamline services and combine resources (such as parks maintenance) between governments in Tulsa County to maximize YOUR tax dollars. Again, Mr. Bates' attempted analogy simply cannot stand up to scrutiny. 2) Mr. Bates states "Keith's sole claim to county government experience is her service as a spokesperson for the 2003 Vision 2025 sales tax campaign. Keith's vision for county government appears to be repeating Vision 2025--putting another county sales tax for amenities (not necessities) before the voters." To begin with, nothing in my literature or in my public statements supports the assertion that I claim to have been a "spokesperson" for Vision 2025. Rather I have stated that I was "part of the team working for passage of Vision 2025." After the successful campaign, I worked on the Arena and Convention Center Design Committee, as well as the Vision 2025 Downtown Housing Fund Committee. Clearly, I was more than a mere "spokesperson." Secondly, my involvement in Vision 2025 has not been my only experience with county government. Throughout my campaign, I have spoken about my extensive experience working with government officials throughout the county on many issues and in connection with a number of projects. Thirdly, my experience stands in sharp contrast to the total lack of any experience that Ms. Bell has had in public service at any level. Finally, Mr. Bates has no conceivable basis for the now published fiction that I intend to put to the voters some mythical tax for "amenities." There is nothing in my literature or public statements to support the proposition that I intend to propose such a tax. This is nothing more than Mr. Bates' attempt to unfairly label me as a pro-tax candidate. There are simply no facts to support such a claim. What I have stated publicly is my desire to become an advocate for the County in securing a return of a greater share of our tax dollars that have historically gone to other cities and counties throughout the state. We are a "donor county" and I want to do something about that. 3) Mr. Bates references my endorsement by Bob Dick, a former Republican County Commissioner and then engages in an attack on Mr. Dick using catch phrases like "Dick's machine" or "Bob Dick style empire building." It is again almost impossible to determine the factual basis for these attacks. However, more importantly, Mr. Bates completely misses the real significance of Mr. Dick's endorsement. Throughout my public career, I have been able to cross party lines and engage in bi-partisan discussions and work with various and disparate groups for a common good. Blind partisanship, like that evidenced so clearly by Mr. Bates' comments, simply no longer works--at any level of government. People in Tulsa County are tired and frustrated with partisan bickering, which has caused and continues to cause long-term problems for this county and state. I have not only been endorsed by Mr. Dick but by numerous life-long Republican business and political leaders including former Mayor Robert La Fortune and Realtor Joe McGraw. 4) Mr. Bates stated that "Karen Keith's idea of having the county government act as some sort of metropolitan government service provider isn't likely to get off the ground." Nothing in my literature or public statements could conceivably support the notion that I have ever espoused the county becoming a "metropolitan service provider." I simply stated that there should be better cooperation between the various city and county governments to "maximize tax dollars." How does the idea of cooperation among elected officials at various levels of government translate into making the County a metropolitan service provider? It clearly does not, except in the chaotic and partisan mind of Mr. Bates. 5) Mr. Bates asserts that at the KRMG debate I engaged in an "awkward attack on Ms. Bell's business record." In fact, I clearly raised the issue of the Oklahoma Department of Labor's six-month investigation of Bells Amusement Park after the tragic death of a teenage boy in a ride accident. It is a matter of record that this report, written by a Republican Commissioner of Labor, cited Bells for 64 separate safety violations. This investigation and its finding by a Republican Commissioner of Labor go to the heart of Ms. Bell's alleged qualifications to be a County Commissioner--her experience in managing Bells Amusement Park. Leaving aside for a minute the credibility of relating making payroll to actually managing a business, the findings of the State Department of Labor constitute a damaging and devastating critique of the "management" of Bells. Ms. Bell's principal response was to state that the author of the report, State Labor Commissioner Brenda Reneau, later recanted those findings. Ms. Reneau has now come forward, in the midst of a campaign that does not involve her politically or personally in any manner, and categorically denied Ms. Bells' attempt at revisionist history. This episode reflects Ms. Bell's alleged expertise in "managing" a business. 6) Mr. Bates refers to my alleged "money belt allies." Who exactly are these so-called "money belt" allies? Aside from the fact that the tone of the phrase is demeaning and unprofessional, it utterly ignores the fact that I have raised money from people of both political parties, every conceivable occupation and socio-economic background. That is the essence of my campaign--I have reached out to the community as a whole, not to any political party or special interest. Mr. Bates' remarks are insulting to the hundreds of my supporters who do not consider themselves as "money belts." 'It is a given that there will be differences and disagreements in any political race. However, to resort to misrepresentation and false rumors to promote one's ideas or support for a candidate is simply wrong. Mr. Bates, as his history indicates, would rather rely on catch phrases intended to evoke visceral responses as opposed to examining the facts and engaging in thoughtful and substantive discussion.' Welcome to the Party, Ms. Keith. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: guido911 on October 31, 2008, 08:12:54 am Good smackdown.
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Hoss on October 31, 2008, 08:16:08 am Waiting for the 'partisan shill's' response in 3...2...1...
That was a very well put together response. I will be voting for Karen. Of course most of you wouldn't be surprised. [:D] Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: guido911 on October 31, 2008, 08:20:47 am quote: Not from me. I think journalists, er bloggers that think they are journalists, believe they are more than what they are. Bates had this coming. I will always applaud a good retaliation slap, regardless of party affiliation. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: RecycleMichael on October 31, 2008, 08:23:48 am quote: I agree. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Hoss on October 31, 2008, 08:35:35 am quote: Wow, I wasn't even talking about you..I was actually talking about the author of the original article, but thanks anyway. [:D] Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: sgrizzle on October 31, 2008, 09:23:41 am I wonder if UT puts a quote on how many republican mouthpiece stories Bates gets to publish a year...
Here is the referenced story by the way. Apparently if we elect someone who has never served in any public office, naked ladies and gold will fall from the sky and aids will be cured but if we elect the person whose been in the public eye and public office for decades without ever being scrutinized for anything, she is going to raise taxes and eat babies. http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A25152 Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on October 31, 2008, 09:27:19 am If Karen hadn't responded, I had a draft prepared which was not too far off what was published- and no she never read nor was aware of my draft. It was a simple rebutting of assumption and innuendo with facts.
I'm glad they saw fit to publish the piece. UTW has been very good about giving space to both sides of an issue. I was disappointed, but not surprised to see Michael take some liberties in his op-ed. There were a lot of stretches of imagination to arrive at his conclusions. He's tried hard as possible to paint Karen as a Miller clone for some time and it's patently false. I think for credibility's sake as a journalist (I know that is splitting hairs- blogger/journalist/political analyst on the radio), it wouldn't hurt to sit down with both candidates and talk to them face-to-face before coming up with an endorsement which really tears down another candidate. I've been a fairly consistent defender of MB, but not this time. Even if I had not helped Karen w/ her campaign, I would be able to see the hatchet job that was attempted as I've known Karen via various capacities for many, many years and trust her character. It was a no-brainer when she told me she was running for commissioner that I wanted to be a part of it even though she's a Dem and I'm a Rep. I felt if anyone could be a consensus-builder, it's Karen. I also feel she can best spear-head a non-biased investigation of the Murphy stranglehold on Expo Square which would be in tax-payer's best interest. Sally Bell cannot do that without the Murphys claiming "vendetta" and tying up any conclusions in law suits for years. I don't like what happened to the Bell family and how they were treated by the fair board. It was wrong. I honestly don't think you can put one of the principals in that matter on the fair board and expect it to be a panacea for every problem facing the county and Expo Square which is but a small part of county functions. Bates dodged a bullet when Sally Bell won the primary. If Miller had won, it would have been interesting to see whom he would have endorsed. I don't ever recall him endorsing a Democrat. Not to say he hasn't, I just don't recall it. One other thing which stuck in my craw recently written by MB was this: "I had hoped that by now I'd be able to issue a resounding endorsement of the $500 million City of Tulsa streets package. But I have to be persuaded before I can try to persuade anyone else." I appreciate Bates is a watchdog over things most of us don't think of nor have the time or resources to investigate, but I gotta say, there's a ton of ego in that last paragraph. It's as if the rest of us should wait with baited breath which way he's going to vote on it before we should make our own decision on it. I gotta say I think MB's ego and personal GOP agendas are getting in the way at times of being the best resource for all of us. His judgement has been impaired at times. I do believe he had endorsed that corrupt Republican, Randi Miller, in previous elections. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: sgrizzle on October 31, 2008, 09:36:40 am quote: Pay close attention, he won't endorse a democrat, but he will fail to endorse a republican. quote: You mean BATE'D breath. quote: Shh... you're not supposed to notice that. quote: Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on October 31, 2008, 09:41:01 am One wonders if he ever endorsed or voted for Dirty Bob.
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: rwarn17588 on October 31, 2008, 09:52:36 am quote: Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on October 31, 2008, 10:38:30 am His endorsement, like that of DelGiorno doesn't seem to be a shoo-in for office.
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: RecycleMichael on October 31, 2008, 10:43:56 am Michael Bates does a good job of informing the readers of his blog and UrbanTulsa Weekly of many issues. I always look forward to reading him.
I agree with what he says up until about a month before every election. We completely disagree on almost every candidate and he pisses me off with his unfounded attacks and innuendo. Then the election happens and I look forward to reading him again. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: tim huntzinger on October 31, 2008, 10:51:36 am quote: Me, too. I always look forward to his insights and absolute domination of the political scene in Tulsa. Urban Tulsa Weekly is an outstanding newspaper and is an unrivaled source for understanding Tulsa. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: inteller on October 31, 2008, 12:10:55 pm one has to wonder if she even wrote that. sounds like some Arnettisms in there. This could just have well been on tulsatoday.com.
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: tim huntzinger on October 31, 2008, 01:12:49 pm quote: Dude, you are so right! Thanks for making that connection! Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on October 31, 2008, 02:58:40 pm quote: Nah, Arnutt is somewhat persona non grata with the Keith camp. Karen is pretty articulate and well-written. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Hoss on October 31, 2008, 03:15:31 pm quote: Yessir. She was a speaker in my high school sophomore careers class, when she was still an anchor. Good speaker then, if my recollection holds up. She's defintely out and about. I saw her at the hockey game last Saturday. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on November 01, 2008, 11:53:06 am That's the other thing Hoss, Karen and Pat are frequently out and about around town and go to a lot of events and are very social when they go out. This was even long before she started running for office. She isn't just campaigning, she really does love Tulsans, Tulsa, and Tulsa County.
She's genuine. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: MDepr2007 on November 02, 2008, 10:07:29 am Do you think KK even read it before Burge sent it out...hmmmmm
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Double A on November 02, 2008, 03:18:14 pm I voted Friday and took another Democrat with me. We both voted for Sally Bell. KK should stick to reading the news and the socialite circuit.
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: waterboy on November 02, 2008, 06:19:50 pm quote:\ You are ridiculous. Democrats my arse. I can't figure out if you are mysogynist, a manchurian plant of some sort or just a person who hates anyone who's name starts with a K or an R. I hope you grow out of it (Yes You Can!)but I have my doubts. Could be you just like the attention, however, it warms my heart to know you totally wasted your votes. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: RecycleMichael on November 02, 2008, 07:51:56 pm DoubleA won't vote for a woman...
What would you call an officer of the democratic party who goes on a forum and brags about voting for a republican? I wouldn't call them a democrat. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: sgrizzle on November 02, 2008, 08:21:13 pm quote: Don't sell her short. Unlike Arnett, Karen Keith actually had a job as a respected journalist. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on November 03, 2008, 08:54:05 am My impersonation of DoubleA:
(http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/4836/dino.gif) Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Gold on November 03, 2008, 11:43:00 am Bates--->(http://www.dependablerenegade.com/photos/dr_pix/pwned.jpg)
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: inteller on November 03, 2008, 12:01:59 pm quote: yeah, from journalist to velcro fasteners. Not exactly glamorous but it pays the bills. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Double A on November 03, 2008, 06:02:58 pm KK and Georgetown Georgiana are Chambercrats. I don't vote for Chambercrats. I guess Sally Bell isn't a woman according to some folks on this board or Jeannie McDaniel who I also voted for, for that matter. Yep, I'm just a mysogynist.
Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: waterboy on November 03, 2008, 06:47:38 pm quote: You're just a typical okie. At least we taught you a new word. No Democrat votes for Sally Bell. Even when facing off against a "chambercrat". You'll need to admit your sin at the next meeting. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: tim huntzinger on November 04, 2008, 08:38:34 am In the interest of fairness, Bates has responded to Keith's response on his blog (http://"http://www.batesline.com/archives/2008/11/a-response-to-karen-keith.html").
I sure have noticed a lot of John Sullivan/Karen Keith yard sign combos around town . . . Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: sgrizzle on November 04, 2008, 08:47:43 am quote: I saw a Sally Bell/ Karen Keith combo this morning. Not sure if it's a "house divided" thing or just an uneducated voter. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2008, 09:09:42 am quote: By Bell refusing to send any referendum to the voters on personal principle of "no new taxes" wouldn't that equate to totalitarianism which most definitely is not a hallmark of any Republican philosophy I'm familiar with (excepting the Bush II admin [}:)] )? Do we want one official deciding what is and isn't best for us without letting the consituents decide? Personally, I never said we shouldn't vote on a River Tax, but I did say many times it was hurried through and was not ready for a vote when it was presented. A package of that magnititude simply can not be rushed to a vote in four or five months. I wasn't a proponent of V-2025 by any stretch but look what all we have gotten from it. I think it's gone a long way to advance our county. Personally, my family has benefitted from some of the higher education improvements which came from it, the company I work for has gotten some work from it as a result, and we have all personally benefitted from new public gathering places and community centers. If there are amenities which would make Tulsa more liveable or could stimulate economic activity (i.e. better higher ed facilities, infrastructure development, etc) and has been well thought-out, it should be brought to a vote of the people. Is Bates endorsing totalitarianism? Now semi thread drift- slap on the knuckles to both campaigns, the BA expressway from 15th St. to the IDL is littered with Bell & Keith campaign signs on the median and the shoulders. The Bell camp seems to be the worst offender on this. Would anyone else be upset with a stiff fine for placing signs on public R-O-W, like $500 per sign to be billed to the offending campaign? Placing signs in the median creates a hazard for whomever is dumb enough to run across three lanes with a pile of signs. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: waterboy on November 04, 2008, 09:24:49 am I wouldn't support a fine like that. Its sort of a tradition and a minor inconvenience.
I would support a fee that would be levied against all candidates who use push in signs. The fee would amount to 10% of their print run. The proceeds would be used to pay for sign pickup on ROW's. Title: Karen Keith sets the record straight Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2008, 09:42:16 am quote: Could have been a duplex.... Saw an Obama/McCain one a week or so back. |