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Title: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Gaspar on February 13, 2013, 06:45:43 am
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/tulsa-proven-be-meth-capital-nation/nWNH7/

Perhaps we should suggest the diversion of some of our "Arcade Game Licensing Taskforce" to address this?


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: BKDotCom on February 13, 2013, 08:19:07 am
It's the "Tulsa Brand."   It's been trying to tell us that for a while.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: DTowner on February 13, 2013, 09:31:20 am
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/tulsa-proven-be-meth-capital-nation/nWNH7/

Perhaps we should suggest the diversion of some of our "Arcade Game Licensing Taskforce" to address this?

Don't be silly, we cannot ignore the harm that playing an inappropriately licensed Pac-Man will do to the children.  My God, don't you care about the children?


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Gaspar on February 13, 2013, 10:11:34 am
I'm sure it's all about tax revenue.  The city is probably losing tens of dollars of tax revenue every year from improperly licensed arcade machines.

In Blakes operation alone, the revenue generated from those machines, had they been taged, would probably pay for that evening's raid in about 200 years.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: carltonplace on February 13, 2013, 11:04:26 am
Re: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World


FINALLY! Jeez that took us too long.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: RecycleMichael on February 13, 2013, 11:10:16 am
We can't stay on top without a team effort and some really good draft picks this year.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Townsend on February 13, 2013, 11:13:08 am
We can't stay on top without a team effort and some really good draft picks this year.

We're surrounded by amazingly talented farm teams.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: patric on February 13, 2013, 11:45:27 am
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/tulsa-proven-be-meth-capital-nation/nWNH7/

Perhaps we should suggest the diversion of some of our "Arcade Game Licensing Taskforce" to address this?

The numbers being used were artificially inflated when the joint task force decided to change the way it counted meth "labs".

Previously, a meth lab was an address, or a structure where a laboratory was housed.
Now every vessel possibly containing meth or meth ingredients is counted as a separate "lab."

So you might have one address where meth is being made, but if they lay out 50 two-liter bottles for the photo-op, they will call it 50 labs instead of the one laboratory, and the statistics skyrocket.




Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: JCnOwasso on February 13, 2013, 12:03:15 pm
The numbers being used were artificially inflated when the joint task force decided to change the way it counted meth "labs".

Previously, a meth lab was an address, or a structure where a laboratory was housed.
Now every vessel possibly containing meth or meth ingredients is counted as a separate "lab."

So you might have one address where meth is being made, but if they lay out 50 two-liter bottles for the photo-op, they will call it 50 labs instead of the one laboratory, and the statistics skyrocket.


Dang it... I didn't expect Tulsa to use performance enhancing statistics.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: carltonplace on February 13, 2013, 12:19:27 pm
Dang it... I didn't expect Tulsa to use performance enhancing statistics.

Well there go all of our sponsorships. I guess I won't wear this "methstrong" bracelet anymore. 


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: JCnOwasso on February 13, 2013, 12:34:28 pm
Well there go all of our sponsorships. I guess I won't wear this "methstrong" bracelet anymore. 

Well, i believe they are still in talks with Breaking Bad for a long term deal.  The heat is on in albuquerque, so they need a new sponsor site.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Gaspar on February 13, 2013, 12:59:54 pm
Why not just embrace it?
Works well with the "A New Kind of Energy" tag.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8471747748_e5bfb134de_o.jpg)


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: patric on February 13, 2013, 01:01:46 pm
Well there go all of our sponsorships. I guess I won't wear this "methstrong" bracelet anymore. 

Does it work like a dog flea collar?  Might still have a few tweaks left in it...     ;D



But sadly, it seems it takes a lot less to fool CNN than when it was Ted Turner's baby

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzHhxr-nrDk[/youtube]


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Conan71 on February 13, 2013, 01:12:04 pm
It's the "Tulsa Brand."   It's been trying to tell us that for a while.

I still think it needs some tweaking.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Hoss on February 13, 2013, 01:14:57 pm
I still think it needs some tweaking.

Where's Sauer's input?  You know he's got the ear of Mary Fallin, right?


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Teatownclown on February 13, 2013, 01:18:04 pm
good to be recognized for something...anything. I am amazed KRMG decided to put this out there instead of our National recognition for Early Childhood Learning programs. Figgers, considering the audience.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Conan71 on February 13, 2013, 04:19:54 pm
Not to be out-done, there's these geniuses in McAlester:

Quote
Meth lab found across street from McAlester police station

By Associated Press
Published: 2/13/2013  1:32 PM
Last Modified: 2/13/2013  1:32 PM

McALESTER — The distinctive smell given off from the manufacture of methamphetamine led McAlester authorities to a meth lab in an apartment across the street from the police station.

Four people were arrested Monday after police were called about the fumes.

The McAlester News-Capital reports that police found two people — 28-year-old Jessica Ann Smith and 23-year-old Thomas Logan McElroy — in the apartment with numerous items used to manufacture meth.

An affidavit said two other people approached the apartment and McElroy shouted that it was a bad time to visit. Police found items for making meth with one of the people and arrested them both — 32-year-old Mitchell Ray Stripe and 23-year-old Vivian Corean Redd.

The suspects have a Feb. 22 court date.


Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=12&articleid=20130213_12_0_McALES874935


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Teatownclown on February 13, 2013, 04:25:02 pm
Not to be out-done, there's these geniuses in McAlester:


I like your new avatar.

What's it mean? Is that Kyle or Stan?


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Breadburner on February 13, 2013, 04:40:53 pm
Only because we choose to do something about it...Sorry for reporting the statistics.....!!!


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: YoungTulsan on February 13, 2013, 04:52:22 pm
Maybe this will finally convince some businesses to be open after 9PM


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: patric on February 13, 2013, 05:04:45 pm
Maybe this will finally convince some businesses to be open after 9PM

Not sure where this is going, but ill bet someone on a diet of meth isnt going to be craving a Jimmy John's at any hour.


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Four people were arrested Monday after police were called about the fumes.

The police didnt smell it across the street?


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: shadows on February 13, 2013, 09:46:26 pm
Meth, the mystic drug secreted by a gland at base of the scull discovered by China some 500 hundred years ago.  It is assumed that its purposes was to provide direct communication of good and evil between the creator and the 177,000 races he was going to place on this planet. 

The secretion was for the enhancement and prolonging of all pleasure including the maintenance of the creation that was underway.  By the year of 1887 the drug had been synthesis in Europe.

The present discussion on whether a president has authority to order the total destruction of a race, city with all inhalants and even the children are being debated.

Meth is a miracle drug gone sour. Beneath the archive are hidden by the carpets we dare not uncover. The drugs used to demoralize where the suicides cannot be further overlooked.

As investigating parties probe deeper, seeking a solution to many of the poverty stricken young children, there is a problem for seekers of realism that a $50, thousand dollar fine with 10 year of time for possession of drugs half of an aspirin in size,         

   


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Gaspar on February 14, 2013, 06:09:11 am
Meth, the mystic drug secreted by a gland at base of the scull discovered by China some 500 hundred years ago.  It is assumed that its purposes was to provide direct communication of good and evil between the creator and the 177,000 races he was going to place on this planet. 

The secretion was for the enhancement and prolonging of all pleasure including the maintenance of the creation that was underway.  By the year of 1887 the drug had been synthesis in Europe.

The present discussion on whether a president has authority to order the total destruction of a race, city with all inhalants and even the children are being debated.

Meth is a miracle drug gone sour. Beneath the archive are hidden by the carpets we dare not uncover. The drugs used to demoralize where the suicides cannot be further overlooked.

As investigating parties probe deeper, seeking a solution to many of the poverty stricken young children, there is a problem for seekers of realism that a $50, thousand dollar fine with 10 year of time for possession of drugs half of an aspirin in size,         

   


Um. . .I believe this is a Shadows masterpiece; that or we have just discovered the source?


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: carltonplace on February 14, 2013, 08:35:41 am
Meth, the mystic drug secreted by a gland at base of the scull discovered by China some 500 hundred years ago.  It is assumed that its purposes was to provide direct communication of good and evil between the creator and the 177,000 races he was going to place on this planet. 

The secretion was for the enhancement and prolonging of all pleasure including the maintenance of the creation that was underway.  By the year of 1887 the drug had been synthesis in Europe.

The present discussion on whether a president has authority to order the total destruction of a race, city with all inhalants and even the children are being debated.

Meth is a miracle drug gone sour. Beneath the archive are hidden by the carpets we dare not uncover. The drugs used to demoralize where the suicides cannot be further overlooked.

As investigating parties probe deeper, seeking a solution to many of the poverty stricken young children, there is a problem for seekers of realism that a $50, thousand dollar fine with 10 year of time for possession of drugs half of an aspirin in size,         

   


Wow, that added some new folds to my grey matter. Well Done sir! kudos! and kudos again!


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: JCnOwasso on February 14, 2013, 08:47:14 am
I like your new avatar.

What's it mean? Is that Kyle or Stan?


I believe that is Butters


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Townsend on February 14, 2013, 08:57:38 am
I believe that is Butters

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs43/i/2009/111/4/9/It__s_The_Butters_Show_by_DiabolicalJimmy.jpg)


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: custosnox on February 14, 2013, 10:15:36 am
Meth, the mystic drug secreted by a gland at base of the scull discovered by China some 500 hundred years ago.  It is assumed that its purposes was to provide direct communication of good and evil between the creator and the 177,000 races he was going to place on this planet. 

The secretion was for the enhancement and prolonging of all pleasure including the maintenance of the creation that was underway.  By the year of 1887 the drug had been synthesis in Europe.

The present discussion on whether a president has authority to order the total destruction of a race, city with all inhalants and even the children are being debated.

Meth is a miracle drug gone sour. Beneath the archive are hidden by the carpets we dare not uncover. The drugs used to demoralize where the suicides cannot be further overlooked.

As investigating parties probe deeper, seeking a solution to many of the poverty stricken young children, there is a problem for seekers of realism that a $50, thousand dollar fine with 10 year of time for possession of drugs half of an aspirin in size,         

   


Meanwhile, in the real world, meth is derived from a plant, not a gland.  This plant was used for a very long time as an asthma treatment, the drug was isolated in 1887, and later developed more thoroughly by the governments on both sides, to keep our troops going WWII.  While your ramblings have some nuggets of information it it here, there is much more to the story, and more accurate sources of information.

While there are many sources, I found this one to present it well:
http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/crystalmeth/history-of-methamphetamine.html


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: DolfanBob on February 14, 2013, 10:32:32 am
I'm so glad that law limiting us to two packs of Sudafed a month is working well.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Townsend on February 14, 2013, 10:35:46 am
I'm so glad that law limiting us to two packs of Sudafed a month is working well.

I donate mine.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Conan71 on February 14, 2013, 11:02:39 am
I'm so glad that law limiting us to two packs of Sudafed a month is working well.

I do quite well without it and yes, I'm an allergy sufferer.  I can't stand feeling like a criminal when I purchase it, so I simply don't.  There's other ways to deal with allergies.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Hoss on February 14, 2013, 11:27:09 am
I do quite well without it and yes, I'm an allergy sufferer.  I can't stand feeling like a criminal when I purchase it, so I simply don't.  There's other ways to deal with allergies.

I use chlortrimeton; while sudoephedrine works better longer, I don't mind taking the other more frequently as it typically works for what I need.

I just liked giving Conan hell for making a big deal about this last year...

 ;D


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Conan71 on February 14, 2013, 11:40:55 am
I use chlortrimeton; while sudoephedrine works better longer, I don't mind taking the other more frequently as it typically works for what I need.

I just liked giving Conan hell for making a big deal about this last year...

 ;D

It is a big deal.  Make it prescription only and that will help tighten the noose on manufacturers.  It has shown measurable results in other states where they have done this.  The nasal steroid I use is and it's not a great inconvenience for me to get a scrip.

 :-*


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: custosnox on February 14, 2013, 01:11:13 pm
It is a big deal.  Make it prescription only and that will help tighten the noose on manufacturers.  It has shown measurable results in other states where they have done this.  The nasal steroid I use is and it's not a great inconvenience for me to get a scrip.

 :-*
Some of us can't afford things like doctors. 


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: DolfanBob on February 14, 2013, 01:25:09 pm
Some of us can't afford things like doctors. 

You ain't lyin. I just had to pay 360 Dollars for my Doctor visit and Blood test just so he would refill my needed 4 Dollar Blood pressure pills.

But of course that's just once a year and I could avoid that charge if I would just pay 800 Dollars a Month for a Health care plan.
Hmm. 65 Dollars every three Months and the Blood test once a Year. Decisions, Decisions.....Gotta love "merica"


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Conan71 on February 14, 2013, 02:27:27 pm
Some of us can't afford things like doctors. 

It's a big hardship on the owner of a rent house or the neighbors of an apartment which is damaged by an exploding meth lab as well.

Here's at least ten free or sliding scale health clinics in Tulsa, just FYI:

http://www.freemedicalsearch.org/cit/ok-tulsa



Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Gaspar on February 14, 2013, 02:42:49 pm
It's a big hardship on the owner of a rent house or the neighbors of an apartment which is damaged by an exploding meth lab as well.

Here's at least ten free or sliding scale health clinics in Tulsa, just FYI:

http://www.freemedicalsearch.org/cit/ok-tulsa



If you have no ID, you can get free care at any of Tulsa's Catholic hospitals if you need it. Just leave your wallet at home.  ;D


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: DolfanBob on February 14, 2013, 02:45:35 pm
If you have no ID, you can get free care at any of Tulsa's Catholic hospitals if you need it. Just leave your wallet at home.  ;D

Hey. I speak Spanglish real good......I gotta get a tan!


Title: !
Post by: Hoss on February 14, 2013, 03:29:35 pm
Hey. I speak Spanglish real good......I gotta get a tan!

Ask Boehner or Romney what bronzer they use.  You might find some on sale!


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: custosnox on February 14, 2013, 08:03:09 pm
It's a big hardship on the owner of a rent house or the neighbors of an apartment which is damaged by an exploding meth lab as well.

Here's at least ten free or sliding scale health clinics in Tulsa, just FYI:

http://www.freemedicalsearch.org/cit/ok-tulsa


If only we had a health care system that didn't cost an arm and a leg to go to that didn't require going to a clinic where you never know how things are going to turn out (free clinics are usually pretty minimal on what can be done, and don't exactly have the best docs in the biz available).  But I will look into the clinics that I did not realize we had, because I'm about 8 years due for my annual check up.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Conan71 on February 15, 2013, 09:10:38 am
If only we had a health care system that didn't cost an arm and a leg to go to that didn't require going to a clinic where you never know how things are going to turn out (free clinics are usually pretty minimal on what can be done, and don't exactly have the best docs in the biz available).  But I will look into the clinics that I did not realize we had, because I'm about 8 years due for my annual check up.

Check for programs via TCC as well, Custo.  Definitely get a check up!

Tulsa is actually very well set for health care, but it's easy to get caught up in the rhetoric of the national discussion on it and not realize what our assets are here.  It wouldn't hurt if our options were a little better publicized.


Title: Re: BREAKING: Tulsa Officially Meth Capital of The World
Post by: Gaspar on February 15, 2013, 10:16:19 am
If only we had a health care system that didn't cost an arm and a leg to go to that didn't require going to a clinic where you never know how things are going to turn out (free clinics are usually pretty minimal on what can be done, and don't exactly have the best docs in the biz available).  But I will look into the clinics that I did not realize we had, because I'm about 8 years due for my annual check up.

Actually most of those clinics are staffed by the same docs and dentists you find at your local emergency rooms and clinics.  They "moonlight" at places like Community Health and others because the pay is excellent for only having to work about 4-6 hours, and they don't have to put up with the BS from insurance companies or the hospitals.  Most of the free clinics also have their own X-Ray and lab equipment, and the nurses are trained to use it.  So instead of some orderly taking you to the other end of a hospital to get an x-ray, or the doc sending you to another department, it is done and read immediately.  Quick diagnosis, instant results, and no one breathing down their necks.  The docs love it.

Services are free if you meet the threshold, but otherwise they charge cash at the counter and are typically extremely reasonable (significantly less expensive than the same care by the same physician in a hospital).