The Tulsa Forum by TulsaNow

I can't find any forum related to biking in Tulsa so figured I may post here.

The one time I went on the turnpike trail 2 or 3 weeks ago I went east from riverparks and it was closed with a chainlink fence across it before you get to hunter park.

Is it still like that? I'm thinking of going that way again in the next couple hours.

My wife rode to NSU and back, getting on the trail system at 31st & Riverside on Saturday, so it’s open.  She did say there’s a good amount of silt under the Sheridan bridge so watch out there.

I believe INCOG and/or Riverparks web sites usually advise of closures.

And here it is:

http://www.incog.org/transportation/trailguide.htm

Have a great ride!

I just went on the hope that it was open, was for me too.  Kinda scary the completely pitch black part that goes under the turnpike right there at hunter.

I rode to nsu from my house in BA yesterday and wanted to go further, I thought the trail went further but I guess that's the end.

I've been looking at incog a lot lately planning my bike route from south BA to work by st. francis and think I've got it all figured out now. I've now rode on all parts of the creek/liberty trail and today after my ride I drove the bike-path/bikeway whatever they call it through neighborhoods from 91st/harvard to 61st/yale.

Welcome to the forum!

Thanks. I think I've been on here years back maybe a different username though. e: Actually I know I remember your username and think I saw you on the news once.

We need our bike paths to connect up to OKC/Moore/Norman!!  I could ride all over this state, then.....

I think ODOT designated Route 66 as a bike route but didn't provide any funding for it. The Chisholm Trail might be designated too.

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Indeed, I would very much like to see our jogging trails expanded, I wish they would run the RiverSide Trail farther south. I'm not a cyclist I'm just a runner. I also wish they would move that trail section that's   in front of the Casino to the back of the Casino it's a hazard running across that driveway, when I'm doing a timed training run I don't like to stop for traffic, so I have been doing most of my running north of the Casino. They are supposed to move that trail section soon. Omaha, NE has a great system of jogging/bike trails with NO street crossings  they talked about having a trail run from Omaha to Lincoln, Nebraska dunno if they ever finished that.  (Click on the link that says "Metro trails")    www.omahatrails.com

IMO you can't beat the trail system they have in Omaha, Nebraska -However, when I'm in Omaha with all the miles of trails they have I still end up running on the same old trail the Wehrspann Lake Trail, it's a 6-mile loop that circles Wehrspann lake with a cut off trail for a 4-mile run.  In Omaha they have  mile markers every 10th of a mile on  the  Trail system. The Wehrspann Trail is curvy and is more suited for runners than cycling they have lots of parking and water and it's easy to do a 4 or 6 mile timed run there. The area is full of wildlife from deer to wild turkey there are some snakes in the late summer that can be seen off the trail along with grasshoppers.. Omaha's main trail the Keystone trail seems to be taken over by cyclists they don't like other people using that trail, it's straight & flat and runs for 23 miles making it perfect for cycling.. Cyclists on the Keystone trail are rude to other trail users many cyclists  don't even yell out "passing on your left" they just fly past you-   http://www.omahatrails.com/index.php/metro-trails/wehrspann-lake

I understand that OKC is building a huge system of jogging trails - they had a big 9-mile loop trail that circled Lake Hefner and the city expanded that to connect to other trails. Fort Worth has the famous Trinity Trail that follows the banks of the Trinity River. Tulsa is slipping behind.

9 miles? You're right, just 72 more miles and they'll pass us right by.

Maybe he'll move..oh, wait...

NWA is constructing a trail from Bentonville to Fayetteville.
not sure what, if any, existing trail system they have.

Fayetteville has an extensive bike trail system. I've rarely seen it used by pedestrians. Some of it uses abandoned rail right of way, some of parallels roads and rail lines. Some is flat, some quite hilly. It appears to end at the Springdale border, like much that is good about NW Arkansas.

For a pdf copy of their trail map, go here: http://www.accessfayetteville.org/government/parks_and_recreation/documents/Fayetteville_Trails_%26_Bikeways_Guide_05-28-141.pdf (http://www.accessfayetteville.org/government/parks_and_recreation/documents/Fayetteville_Trails_%26_Bikeways_Guide_05-28-141.pdf)

You need to go over there and look around at it.  Then if you think their 1 for every 10 of ours is "falling behind", then we'll talk.

OKC is about to add 62 miles of bike lanes to existing streets, that is one thing they are passing us on:

Story:
http://www.koco.com/news/oklahoma-city-to-add-62-miles-of-bicycle-lanes/26754838#!95YSl

Map:
http://www.koco.com/blob/view/-/26755092/data/3/-/158k4nw/-/KOCO-Bicycle-lanes.pdf

Hey, I thought some asshat in Colorado said that was UN indoctrination?

 ;)    ;D

You know it.

I hadn't been on the river trail south of 71st until recently and was pleasantly surprised to see the dual bike and jogging trails extended south to near the RiverSpirit hotel construction zone.  Once the Creeks update the trails past their project it will be much nicer from 71st to the Creek Turnpike trail. 

Still hoping for an eventual connection between the Jenks bridge and Turkey Mountain on the west side.  That would complete the loop on both sides between the Jenks bridge and SW Blvd bridge for an ~18 mile round trip with no road crossings.  Few places have such a nice asset in city limits, certainly not OKC.

I have read a lot about the OKC trail systems and how the city is expanding them, the only trail there I ever ran was the 9 mile loop at Lake Hefner and that was long ago back in the early 1990's. OKC has since connected that trail to others.

For some reason the new trail system at Riverside has no mileage markers  south of the 3.5 mile marker at around 46th street, As I run south  of the I-44 overpass bridge I don't see any more mile markers on the new trail pavement.

Mile markers are really unnecessary considering the trail starts at roughly 11th an every subsequent mile is 21st, 31st, 41st, 51st, 61st, 71st, 81st, 91st.

Derp.

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That does not work for me I run with a stop watch and like to see the markers on the pavement, why did they stop the markers at the 3.5 mile mark? I can't see the cross streets anyhow at places it's hard to tell what street is which. They need to put in the mile markers.

At 96th street is where they run the RiverSide 5,000 5K on August 16th. I'm training to run it. It's a flat, fast course and many runners can set a new PR in that race- no hills.

You need to spend a few bucks and get a GPS Runner's watch.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/into-sports/running/cIntoSports-cRunning-p1.html

several years ago when I was doing a slew of 5Ks, my personal best was an Aquarium Run. 
started heading east across the Jenks bridge, then north down riverside, then back, looping back under the bridge ending at the aquarium (so basically downhill @ the end)

The zigging and zagging adds up.  I believe its roughly 4 miles from 11th/SW Blvd to 41st street (it'd be 3 miles if it were straight south)

It might help if you actually lived here and knew the landmarks from ground level instead of from Google Earth.  I’m usually riding between 15 and 25 MPH depending on wind direction and traffic on the trails.  Miraculously, I have no trouble seeing my landmarks to indicate where I am so I call BS on not being able to see them as a runner at 4-10 MPH.

Unless you had the IQ of Forrest Gump...wait, what?

The "Run To The Son 5K" race on Labor Day at Parkview Baptist Church has a downhill grade into the finish line, the bad news is there is a uphill grade at the start of the race. This is another fun race to do after the event they hand out the awards and they have tons of food and games for the kids. I did this event for the past 3 years and I talked a lady friend of mine to run it this year. It's $30.00 advance tickets and $35.00 on race day.

That's a lot of money for those watches and I have a hard time setting my cheap $50.00 heart watch timer  thing all that computer junk is beyond me I'm happy with a simple stop watch & mile markers.

Yes - that plus the cross streets are NOT always visible from the trail, MY personal best time for a 5K is 25:33 that I set back in 2008 at the Pancake 5K race in Columbus Ohio- (Hilliard, Ohio) The closest I came to getting near it was the "Route 66 CPA 5K" back in 2011 when I pulled in 26:03. I'm working on my speed. In the "Run To The Son 5K Race" I pulled in 26:06 I think that was also back in 2011 (if not it was 2012). I need to pick up 30+ seconds. The problem is I'm getting older and slowing down-- Back in the 1980's I was able to run a 7.5 pace, today I'm lucky to do a 8.5. That 2008 Pancake 5K was a blast, after the race we ate Pancakes and other treats, I pulled in 2nd place for my age group, a guy from Detroit took 1st place in my age group. The last kilometer was full throttle  all the way I could hear a pack of runners behind me and I had about 6 or 7 runners around me we were giving it all we had, I was surprised when I came around the last bend and saw the clock at the finish line I could not believe my time, then after the race I felt I could of done better, I could of gained a few seconds if I did or that during the race. Such is the sport of running, and racing is part of that sport.

But most aren't...therefore, no mile markers needed

Then why did they use mile markers for the first part of the trail, and quit the markers at mile number 3.5? Why not make everyone happy and put in some mile markers all the way down the newly paved trail, heck they spent a ton of money on other fancy frills around the trails, cut out some of the frills and use that money for mile markers.

Dude, I don't know.  Why don't you cut out some of your frills and buy a freaking watch like Conan said?

My guess is that you are more likely to buy a Runner's Watch than you are to get mile markers.

How about just running for the sake of running?

Many Gold Stars to you!!!   Yes!  Just don't need all that other nonsense....

giving up on embedding youtube  (can we get that fixed)

http://youtu.be/O6SEXp3-lo8?t=12s

Using URL shorteners is what does it.  That and using a secure link (any link that includes https will break the embed..to fix that, just replace it with http and it works fine).

I like to enter races- it's part of the sport of running  to test your ability against other runners and push yourself to the max. I need to know how my running pace is and what I need to improve on. Running is a fun & addictive sport if running was no fun I would not be doing it, I don't do sports I don't enjoy.