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Title: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Teatownclown on June 04, 2012, 11:55:26 pm
and I'm sure many of you will be thrilled with that. But New York will continue to be great because they are progressive. We live, with some exceptions, in a regressive society. It's hard to attract business into Oklahoma with this situation of going backwards instead of moving forward.


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/120604/new-york-decriminalize-marijuana-cuomo-bloomberg


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Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Conan71 on June 05, 2012, 08:15:53 am
You aren’t starting to go Davazz on us, are you?


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: erfalf on June 05, 2012, 08:49:04 am
I like New York just fine. It's just not for me right now.

But New York is not the end all be all, in fact many New Yorkers feel the same way.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuabrown/2011/05/13/the-mass-exodus-from-new-york/2/


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Teatownclown on June 05, 2012, 08:54:18 am
You aren’t starting to go Davazz on us, are you?

(http://mediaoutrage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/John-Lennon.jpg)


I get allergic smelling hay refineries....


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Conan71 on June 05, 2012, 09:22:27 am
(http://mediaoutrage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/John-Lennon.jpg)


I get allergic smelling hay refineries....

Ever notice what is on the other side of the river in NJ?


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: erfalf on June 05, 2012, 09:36:27 am
Ever notice what is on the other side of the river in NJ?

The sludge pit that is New Jersey.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Townsend on June 05, 2012, 09:39:10 am
The sludge pit that is New Jersey.

Ever been?


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: erfalf on June 05, 2012, 09:43:32 am
Ever been?

Been to some of the nice burbs (Montclair area), very nice, Jersey city, right accross the river is nice, brand new pretty much. But I also took the train to Philly, and got to see some of the "countryside". Not the most pleasant. And yes, there are many, many refineries in the area near NYC.

Added: And to this day, my Grandfather who was a corporate salesman and traveled alot, hated going to Newark. Said it is the most pitiful city he'd ever been in, and that includes many 3rd world countries he had been to as well.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Teatownclown on June 05, 2012, 09:45:42 am
Been to some of the nice burbs (Montclair area), very nice, Jersey city, right accross the river is nice, brand new pretty much. But I also took the train to Philly, and got to see some of the "countryside". Not the most pleasant. And yes, there are many, many refineries in the area near NYC.

Added: And to this day, my Grandfather who was a corporate salesman and traveled alot, hated going to Newark. Said it is the most pitiful city he'd ever been in, and that includes many 3rd world countries he had been to as well.

Not anymore...Newark has Booker.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: erfalf on June 05, 2012, 09:51:47 am
There is almost as much refining capacity with 30 miles of NYC as in the entire state of Oklahoma. It is not just perception.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: erfalf on June 05, 2012, 09:52:31 am
Not anymore...Newark has Booker.

Yes, things have changed, gentrification has occurred. But NJ doesn't just have a bad rap for nothing. It was earned.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Townsend on June 05, 2012, 09:53:53 am
NJ doesn't just have a bad rap for nothing. It was earned.

Earned how?


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Red Arrow on June 05, 2012, 11:45:53 am
Earned how?

Traffic circles.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Townsend on June 05, 2012, 11:50:43 am
Traffic circles.

Those are awesome. 


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: dbacks fan on June 05, 2012, 12:21:37 pm
Not anymore...Newark has Booker.
And Tulsa has you.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: TheArtist on June 05, 2012, 04:53:14 pm
  We stayed in Weehawken NJ just a block or so off JFK Boulevard.  The neighborhoods there were woooonderful and quit affordable actually, I think the rent the person we were staying with was around $750 a month.  Beautiful, quiet, tree lined streets.  Near parks and a large trail system, and looking over the water to NYC was spectacular.  Reminded me of the old neighborhoods here by the river and downtown, except without the transit and view lol.  15 minutes and we were in the city via bus, or rail or boat right in the middle of everything.   Then another trip back and you were in a cozy old neighborhood near parks, a little "main street" type area with little shops, antique stores and cafes (and the best bagel shop I have ever had the honor of visiting)


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Red Arrow on June 05, 2012, 05:44:23 pm
Those are awesome. 

I believe you are confusing modern roundabouts with 1940s and 50s traffic circles.  Not the same.  Traffic circles were terrible.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: TheArtist on June 05, 2012, 07:06:32 pm
  Btw,,, much as I love NYC and all.  I would rather live in Tulsa and enjoy making it a better place.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Townsend on June 05, 2012, 09:58:51 pm
I believe you are confusing modern roundabouts with 1940s and 50s traffic circles.  Not the same.  Traffic circles were terrible.

I thought you were kidding.  I don't remember traffic circles in Jersey.


Title: Re: New York Is Where I'd Rather Stay...
Post by: Red Arrow on June 06, 2012, 06:52:47 am
I thought you were kidding.  I don't remember traffic circles in Jersey.

I only really remember the Camden, NJ (across the Delaware River from Phila.) area from visiting my Grandparents in the 50s and very early 60s.  I think they may have gotten rid of them but I haven't even been to NJ since the late 80s.