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« Reply #270 on: February 28, 2018, 07:02:25 pm » |
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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first” -Ronald Reagan
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patric
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« Reply #271 on: March 01, 2018, 10:11:44 am » |
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Interesting.
OKLAHOMA CITY — Three bills that would greatly loosen restrictions on who can carry guns and where in Oklahoma made their way through the House Public Safety Committee on Wednesday afternoon, with voting largely along party lines.
House Bills 2918, 2951 and 3192, all by Rep. Jeff Coody, R-Grandfield, strip away handgun licensing and training requirements and make it easier for school districts to arm personnel.
HB 3192, filed after the deadly school shootings in Florida two weeks ago, would allow districts to develop their own policies for arming school personnel. The only requirement would be a handgun permit.
HB 2951 would permit carrying of firearms anywhere they are now legally permitted without a license or traininghttp://www.tulsaworld.com/news/capitol_report/house-committee-votes-to-lift-most-gun-training-and-licensing/article_c66b3b4e-b552-530a-81dd-a740c8593afb.htmlThey are teachers; skip the rules. What could go wrong? Armed ‘Teacher of the Year’ Opens Fire in Schoolhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/a-second-teacher-of-the-year-fires-a-gun-inside-his-schoolWell at least we stop the violence by getting the guns out... 11-year-old arrested after pulling knife on Oklahoma City elementary school studentshttp://newsok.com/11-year-old-arrested-after-pulling-knife-on-elementary-school-students/article/5585120
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #273 on: March 04, 2018, 12:16:48 pm » |
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Whatever the case ends up being, it ain't being portrayed accurately in the public square.
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"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper
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patric
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« Reply #275 on: March 08, 2018, 10:55:26 pm » |
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But many this sheriff just wreaks of CYA so bad. Particularly curious is his change of tune on "good guys with guns".
Apparently the sheriff was re-elected with the help of false-flag robocalls where he pretended to be his opposition. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/02/scott-israel-broward-county-sheriff-nra-217220
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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patric
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« Reply #277 on: April 04, 2018, 10:20:46 pm » |
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And I've really been thinking that all these cop shootings are mostly due to all these "training" companies that teach cops how to deal with active shooters and other scenarios and scare the crap out of the cops thinking that they are constantly in more danger than they really are. Combine that with the innate and some active racism and you have our overall problem with cops killing people and why it skews to killing minorities and the mentally ill.
Lawmakers seek change in police lethal force standard https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/us/sacramento-stephon-clark-shooting-legislation/index.html
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #278 on: April 05, 2018, 01:17:27 am » |
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« Reply #279 on: April 06, 2018, 09:27:48 am » |
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« Reply #281 on: May 06, 2018, 10:51:40 am » |
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That's why a basic training session is so important. Under Oklahoma's law, you can use lethal force only to defend yourself, a family member, or your business. Nothing permits you to intervene in a hold up or a domestic dispute.
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May you live in interesting times.
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TeeDub
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« Reply #282 on: May 06, 2018, 11:39:02 am » |
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That was an off duty cop. Regular people are trained not to get involved in these instances in the concealed carry classes.
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patric
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« Reply #283 on: May 06, 2018, 01:06:00 pm » |
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That was an off duty cop. Regular people are trained not to get involved in these instances in the concealed carry classes.
So basically Oklahoma is doing away with the "trained not to get involved" part and some Carrying individual stumbles across the guy pointing the gun at people at the register. He reacts.
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #284 on: May 06, 2018, 04:46:14 pm » |
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That's why a basic training session is so important. Under Oklahoma's law, you can use lethal force only to defend yourself, a family member, or your business. Nothing permits you to intervene in a hold up or a domestic dispute.
"others" is specifically mentioned in the law.
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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