By way of clarification, your primary argument is as follows:
Catholics are Christians. But they are a different religion than Christians. Therefor, they aren't a denomination of Christianity.
Do I have that correct?
IMHO this is akin to saying Judaism and Islam are Semetic [sic] denominations because of their common Biblical ancestry.
They are both Semitic, but they are different religions. Within Judaism there is multiple denominations (or sects): Orthodox, Hasidic, reform, etc. Within Islam there are multiple denominations: Sunni, Shia, Sufi, etc. But Christianity, Judaism, and Hinduism are Semitic religions - they technically claim to worship the same God (the God of Abraham/אַבְרָהָם/إبراهيم/Ibrāhīm, all the same God). You seem to have trouble putting this into categories and subsets.
So, we could run a simple organization progression: Choice (options) - Subset (options)
Monotheistic (henotheism, pluralistic, philosphical) - Semitic (pagan) - Christian (Jewish, Islamic)- Catholic (Protestant) - Roman Catholic (Greek Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Ethiopian, Syrian, etc.).
Heck, you get confused over your own 'libertarianism!'
I'm confused now, I admit. Mostly because that statement was out of no where, but also because it didn't make sense. Why was "libertarianism" in quotes? I don't get it.
You have lost ALL CREDIBILITY by referencing Wikipedia as your primary source of info. Ha ha!
I have listed actual statistical numbers. Definitions. Census data and categories. As well as other data points to support to support my contention. I then said that everything from the World Book of Religions to Wikipedia agrees, and that makes Wikipedia my primary source? And even if it was, I'm not sure why you are mocking my source.
Thus far your primary source has been thin air. Nothing to support your contention whatsoever. Saying Catholics are not Christian is simply ridiculous, then ignoring all merits of the discussion following is simply typical. Usually when you make a contention you are required to support it.
But to appease your simple mind here I went through Google and randomly picked links, so here are some other sources. Now, I looked but I couldn't find one to support your contention, but that probably doesn't mean anything. Catholics as a denomination of Christians:
http://www.history.com/encyclopedia.do?articleId=227134http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/denominations.htmhttp://netministries.org/denomlst.htmhttp://christianity.about.com/od/denominations/Denominations.htmhttp://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html#Christianityhttp://www.usachurches.org/christian-denominations.htmhttp://www.slco.lib.ut.us/religden.htmhttp://churchrelevance.com/qa-list-of-all-christian-denominations-and-their-beliefs/http://www.worldchristiandatabase.org/wcd/about/denominations.aspHere is a source listing Catholic as a Christian Denomination from the Southern Baptist Convention:
http://www.sbc.net/redirect.asp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.namb.net%2Fatf%2Fcf%2F{CDA250E8-8866-4236-9A0C-C646DE153446}%2FBB_american_denomination.pdf&key=denomination&title=033010+BB+MajAmerDenominatons&ndx=SBC%2C+IMB%2C+NAMB%2C+ANNUITY%2C+LIFEWAY%2C+WMU%2C+ERLC%2C+SEMINARIESand a discussion of Denominations:
http://www.sbc.net/aboutus/clwhydenomination.aspHere, you should be VERY impressed by this one:
http://www.wikichristian.org/index.php?title=DenominationsThe Roman Catholic Church only recognizes its authority as the Body of Christ. It has its own Bible. Has its own cosmology. Has its own path to paradise. Is the oldest, most powerful corporation on the planet. . . I consider Catholics Christians, but to apply some equanimity with other religious orders or sects or splinter groups so as to call them a denomination is to call Mormonism a denomination.
CHRISTIAN: one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus ChristThat
defines the religion of Christianity.
CHRISTIAN: one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus ChristAgain, by definition, Catholic is a demonimation of the Christian religion.
I think you are confused by the simplistic breakdown of Protestant or Catholic. In your organizational tree you need to start with "Christian" and then branch out. Some are harder to place than others (as I discussed in my previous post) such as Mormons and Unitarians in the Christian tree, or Seiks for Hindus and Dervishes for Islam (sub denomination of Sufi, which itself isn't exactly Islam).
Please try harder to frame your argument in a coherent way.
Do you know what 'catholic' means?
I defined it. Thanks for reading before you blather on. I really hope my logic, sources, and facts don't get in the way of your blather.