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May 06, 2024, 04:14:53 pm
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 on: Today at 12:21:41 pm 
Started by ZYX - Last post by patric

Looking at Google Maps, there are a couple of places that you could build a two story parking garage along the stretch from St. Louis to Quaker, but I can see the problem being the light pollution from a two story garage with the nearby residences.


Good shielding (eliminating the direct line-of-sight to the light source) is good practice, but that becomes harder to do when the source is greatly elevated.
 
Color makes a big difference because our eyes are much more sensitive to blue and green at night.
If you think PSO's bad choice of LED color is more "penetrating" than the amber hues we had before, its not your imagination.

Fortunately, amber and warm-white LEDs are just as energy efficient now as the blue-rich ones were 20 years ago when the DOE wrote the specs that PSO uses today.  Maybe some thoughtful architects and planners can help the private sector set the curve.

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 on: Today at 12:15:08 pm 
Started by Jacobei - Last post by Jeff P
Yeah, I was just going off what I read. You are probably closer to the truth and I was going off urban legend on Wiki

I spent three months back in the mid 90's doing work in the tower on 43, 44 and 45 for Vintage petroleum, and noticed the slight movement from time to time. Before that in the 80's I worked for a courier company and spend a lot of time in several buildings downtown and where I noticed it most was in the freight elevator vestibules at the tower because you could hear the cables moving. The one building I seemed to notice it the most in is One Gas. It has according shaped panels in the expansion joints and you can hear them creak and kind of feel the movement.

My comment about the one for OKC was at the proposed height you would be way above Williams and even with the smaller profile the higher up the more movent that's noticeable. It was a tongue in cheek comment about need Dramamine.

Ha yeah I should have mentioned the elevators. That's definitely one of the ways you know the building is moving. On really windy days you can hear the cables clanging all the way down.

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 on: Today at 11:31:28 am 
Started by swake - Last post by heironymouspasparagus
We drove thru Jenks about a week ago and see there may be some restaurants to go try!   Getting way big!!

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 on: Today at 02:45:52 am 
Started by ZYX - Last post by dbacksfan 2.0
I’ve always thought the parking lots in front of Nola’s/Chimi’s would be a good location for a public parking garage with residential wrapping it and ground floor retail on 15th. 

I can kind of see that, it might work, but I think it would tend to hide the businesses behind it, and make the front of those businesses less attractive. The front of Jason's and Chimi's would be facing a parking garage, it would be like being in a place downtown and your view faces the alley instead of the arterial street.

Looking at Google Maps, there are a couple of places that you could build a two story parking garage along the stretch from St. Louis to Quaker, but I can see the problem being the light pollution from a two story garage with the nearby residences.

The first near 15th & Quaker


The second near 15th and St. Louis


Just thoughts. I remember dating someone that lived in a building either on Rockford or Quincy in an old two story duplex that faced east and had the alley on the west, when the Petroleum Club caught fire. We sat on a patio watching it happen.


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 on: May 05, 2024, 05:03:11 pm 
Started by ZYX - Last post by SXSW
Now if Only the city would buy the lots for hideaway and turn it into multistory parking before the businesses flatten more housing like behind Roosevelt's and Hemingway.

I’ve always thought the parking lots in front of Nola’s/Chimi’s would be a good location for a public parking garage with residential wrapping it and ground floor retail on 15th. 

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 on: May 05, 2024, 11:59:01 am 
Started by ZYX - Last post by Markk
Its a huge footprint. Im understanding it was the site of Tulsa's first post office?


I think that honor goes to the corner of E. 41st. and Troost Ave.

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 on: May 05, 2024, 09:25:40 am 
Started by ZYX - Last post by patric
That's residential, right?

Its a huge footprint. Im understanding it was the site of Tulsa's first post office?

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 on: May 04, 2024, 05:49:27 pm 
Started by swake - Last post by patric
So it sounds like GolfSuites tried to buy the property, but OneFire/Muscogee Nation refused to sell, and GolfSuites are in breach of contract for withholding rent payments over who is responsible for maintaining the facility. To me the maintenance issue would be GolfSuites because of the specific use for the facility but that's just my opinion.

But it also sounds like Muscogee sees it as a losing business once TopGolf builds a facility at River Spirit that will also, depending on passage of sports betting, include a sports book along with the driving range.



Le Belle Restaurant & Events, which was one of the Tulsa World's top new restaurants of 2023, announced Friday that it is closing.

The restaurant, located at 400 Riverwalk Terrace in the Jenks Riverwalk Crossing, is the latest business in this complex to close in recent weeks.

A letter signed by "Le Belle Management" and posted Friday to the Le Belle Facebook page stated: "After careful consideration and evaluation of various factors, including challenges with our landlords over commitments made to us that were not achieved, it is with heavy hearts that we announce the closure of Le Belle Restaurant & Events on the Riverwalk Crossing."

Le Belle Restaurant & Events opened in the spring of 2023, taking over a space that had been occupied by Maryn’s Taphouse & Raw Bar.

Another popular restaurant in the Jenks Riverwalk, The Bramble Breakfast & Bar, announced its closure in February.

https://tulsaworld.com/life-entertainment/local/food-drink/jenks-riverwalk-crossing/article_f2d709fa-095f-11ef-80a4-e33459b854be.html



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 on: May 04, 2024, 06:29:03 am 
Started by ZYX - Last post by SXSW
The lack of landscaping during the Cherry Street street scape project completed a couple years ago continues to be a huge missed opportunity.  Maybe they could add some raised planters in some areas but it would need to be a coordinated effort by the local business org.

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 on: May 03, 2024, 01:05:52 am 
Started by ZYX - Last post by dbacksfan 2.0
Just some observations I have about Cherry Street and the new developments, coming from someone who hung out on occasion at Black Forest back in the early 80's, shopped at Sound Warehouse when it was on the north east corner of 15th and Peoria, and Mi Cocina was still a Piggly Wiggly. I remember the battle between the home owners that lived where the BA is and the the battle over where the south east corner of the IDL is. IIRC one of the biggest opponents was Vince Sposato who was the Streets Commissioner in the 60's and 70's.

Before I moved away in 1998 it was really good to see that area coming back to life and I liked the character that it had. There was a lot going on, but it had that neighborhood feel. In the times that I have been back since 2017, to me it seems to have lost some of that feel, and the newer 3 and 4 story buildings just don't fit to me. I know that where Smoke is, is an original building, and yes the Subway building wasn't really anything special, but another 3 or 4 story just looks out of place. It's also my feeling about the area of 33rd and Peoria where the BOk building is that there have been 4 to 5 story buildings proposed. To me it just doesn't fit.

I guess just being a curmudgeon, it just seems to have lost something to me.

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