Any new midtown/Cherry Street developments?

[Jacobei]

There is largish mobile crane up at the former Cherry Street Subway (Surely it has another name) project. Seems a little oversized for a 2+ story project. I'm a layperson on construction matters, though.

Additionally, There was what appeared to be utility work closer to utica where the Phillips station used to be. Is this a step towards the rumored project there?

[SXSW]

There is largish mobile crane up at the former Cherry Street Subway (Surely it has another name) project. Seems a little oversized for a 2+ story project. I'm a layperson on construction matters, though.

Additionally, There was what appeared to be utility work closer to utica where the Phillips station used to be. Is this a step towards the rumored project there?

They need the crane to erect the steel structure.

Not sure if that utility work is related to the Bumgarner project at Utica.  I do know this a Legacy project for them and will be worth the wait once built.

[Jacobei]

Just did a quick count. There are a total of 6 backhoes of varying sizes at the site. Doesn't look like a full steam ahead yet, and there is still yet to be construction fencing. However, it's more motion than the site has seen in a long time.

[DowntownDan]

I also have little knowledge of construction techniques, and don't really know why a three story building needs so much work. Before the huge crane, they installed what appeared to be deep concrete piers for the foundation. I don't recall either being necessary for the Roosevelts or Hemmingway buildings.

The work by the Bumgarner lot started further east on 15th street at Xanthus. I think it might be related to the storm sewer because my neighborhood has had basement flooding issues and they've been out there on and off for a few years.

[ComeOnBenjals]

Drove by the Hatch location. The Steel structure is up... it's much taller than I expected. Its going to significantly change the feel of Cherry St.

[Jacobei]

Now if Only the city would buy the lots for hideaway and turn it into multistory parking before the businesses flatten more housing like behind Roosevelt's and Hemingway.

[Urban Enthusiast]

Drove by the Hatch location. The Steel structure is up... it's much taller than I expected. Its going to significantly change the feel of Cherry St.

I drove by this morning and was shocked to see the steel structure already up.  I'm with you, it's much taller than I expected.  I like how Cherry Streets is feeling more and more urban. 

[DowntownDan]

The picture looks like two stories and a third deck floor, but the steel going up looks like 4 floors.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Just some observations I have about Cherry Street and the new developments, coming from someone who hung out on occasion at Black Forest back in the early 80's, shopped at Sound Warehouse when it was on the north east corner of 15th and Peoria, and Mi Cocina was still a Piggly Wiggly. I remember the battle between the home owners that lived where the BA is and the the battle over where the south east corner of the IDL is. IIRC one of the biggest opponents was Vince Sposato who was the Streets Commissioner in the 60's and 70's.

Before I moved away in 1998 it was really good to see that area coming back to life and I liked the character that it had. There was a lot going on, but it had that neighborhood feel. In the times that I have been back since 2017, to me it seems to have lost some of that feel, and the newer 3 and 4 story buildings just don't fit to me. I know that where Smoke is, is an original building, and yes the Subway building wasn't really anything special, but another 3 or 4 story just looks out of place. It's also my feeling about the area of 33rd and Peoria where the BOk building is that there have been 4 to 5 story buildings proposed. To me it just doesn't fit.

I guess just being a curmudgeon, it just seems to have lost something to me.

[SXSW]

The lack of landscaping during the Cherry Street street scape project completed a couple years ago continues to be a huge missed opportunity.  Maybe they could add some raised planters in some areas but it would need to be a coordinated effort by the local business org.

[patric]

That's residential, right?

Its a huge footprint. Im understanding it was the site of Tulsa's first post office?

[Markk]

Its a huge footprint. Im understanding it was the site of Tulsa's first post office?

I think that honor goes to the corner of E. 41st. and Troost Ave.

[SXSW]

Now if Only the city would buy the lots for hideaway and turn it into multistory parking before the businesses flatten more housing like behind Roosevelt's and Hemingway.

I’ve always thought the parking lots in front of Nola’s/Chimi’s would be a good location for a public parking garage with residential wrapping it and ground floor retail on 15th. 

[dbacksfan 2.0]

I’ve always thought the parking lots in front of Nola’s/Chimi’s would be a good location for a public parking garage with residential wrapping it and ground floor retail on 15th. 

I can kind of see that, it might work, but I think it would tend to hide the businesses behind it, and make the front of those businesses less attractive. The front of Jason's and Chimi's would be facing a parking garage, it would be like being in a place downtown and your view faces the alley instead of the arterial street.

Looking at Google Maps, there are a couple of places that you could build a two story parking garage along the stretch from St. Louis to Quaker, but I can see the problem being the light pollution from a two story garage with the nearby residences.

The first near 15th & Quaker


The second near 15th and St. Louis


Just thoughts. I remember dating someone that lived in a building either on Rockford or Quincy in an old two story duplex that faced east and had the alley on the west, when the Petroleum Club caught fire. We sat on a patio watching it happen.

[patric]

Looking at Google Maps, there are a couple of places that you could build a two story parking garage along the stretch from St. Louis to Quaker, but I can see the problem being the light pollution from a two story garage with the nearby residences.

Good shielding (eliminating the direct line-of-sight to the light source) is good practice, but that becomes harder to do when the source is greatly elevated.
 
Color makes a big difference because our eyes are much more sensitive to blue and green at night.
If you think PSO's bad choice of LED color is more "penetrating" than the amber hues we had before, its not your imagination.

Fortunately, amber and warm-white LEDs are just as energy efficient now as the blue-rich ones were 20 years ago when the DOE wrote the specs that PSO uses today.  Maybe some thoughtful architects and planners can help the private sector set the curve.