The Tulsa Forum by TulsaNow

Public Universities with terrible graduation rates:

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/05/17/11-Public-Universities-with-the-Worst-Graduation-Rates.aspx#page1

I must abstain from this conversation for personal reasons....

Those Universities typically have a high acceptance rate and a high Pell Grant percentage.  They gave people a chance.  It the students couldn't cut it, so be it.  At least they had a chance.  

We like to guarantee the opportunity of success but we cannot guarantee success itself.   Education is generally money well spent.

When I got drafted and joined the Navy as my choice vs. the government's choice of service, I was guaranteed entry to a school which cost me an extra year of active duty.  I did fine but some who didn't have what it  took to finish were still on active duty, probably chipping paint or swabbing decks.  They were guaranteed and given a chance.  That is the best that can be done.

They missed the part about how good we are at football.

Absolutely!!

Oh geez.  Heiron agreed with one of my posts.  Now I have to wash my keyboard.
 
 ;D

Like it or not, you know deep down inside that I agree with more of your thoughts than you want to admit.

Try Clorox.  Or hydrogen peroxide.

I think I'll go with the hydrogen peroxide.

I had to drive a wooden stake through mine with an "Emilio-style dis-incorporation" (just to make sure it was dead and wouldn't be found).  :o

So that's why you were off-line for a while.

Then burn it to make sure.

I don't know how they calculate graduation rate. But I may have hurt RSU's numbers. RSU started a branch in Bartlesville awhile back. I took several classes there (after I had already graduated from OSU) for my career. I didn't get a degree, nor was I trying to obtain one. Does that sort of thing hurt their rating? Because I know many people that do this sort of thing all the time. It is almost like a technical school more than a college (at least in Bartlesville it is).

How many people are using these as a stepping stone for a year or two to save money before moving on to another college or university?

exactly.  I will complete about 80 hours at RSU and I will then be moving to OSU Tulsa.  They are looking at 4 year degree seeking students who complete within 6 years.  RSU has a huge Nurse population, so does that negatively impact their numbers?  They also have many older students who may take longer than 6 years to complete their degree.   

I was just making a point as to how relevant a metric this really was as far as measuring how good a school is or not.

Kind of like training wheels for a real education.  ;)