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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2013, 09:39:16 am » |
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It is hard to trust a diety with his hand always in his pocket.
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2013, 03:20:56 pm » |
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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first” -Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2013, 03:37:13 pm » |
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Seems a very selective moratorium, blocking some but not others. |
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2013, 09:56:23 am » |
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Blatantly unconstitutional. Not to mention hypocritical and just plan old BS.
If there was legitimate fear regarding the pending lawsuit, why not take down ALL monuments that are in question? They created a "free speech zone" in an attempt to further their religion using the State, but when others wanted to exercise their free speech they immediately shut it down.
Among the most blatant use of Government to favor one expression over others.
Since when did the Christian God need so much help from the State of Oklahoma?
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« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2013, 10:12:03 am » |
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Blatantly unconstitutional. Not to mention hypocritical and just plan old BS.
If there was legitimate fear regarding the pending lawsuit, why not take down ALL monuments that are in question? They created a "free speech zone" in an attempt to further their religion using the State, but when others wanted to exercise their free speech they immediately shut it down.
Among the most blatant use of Government to favor one expression over others.
Since when did the Christian God need so much help from the State of Oklahoma?
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Global warming isn't real because it was cold today. Also great news: world famine is over because I just ate - Stephen Colbert.
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« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2013, 10:21:29 am » |
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Who's claiming to love religious freedom?
Certainly not those that thought the 10-c monument was a good idea.
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« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2013, 10:29:42 am » |
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Who's claiming to love religious freedom?
Certainly not those that thought the 10-c monument was a good idea.
The point made is that many Christians freak out if a monument of the FSM is requested. Or Buddha. Or whatever. Must have something to do with it making them feel like it invalidates their religion in some form or fashion. |
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Libertarianism is a system of beliefs for people who think adolescence is the epitome of human achievement.
Global warming isn't real because it was cold today. Also great news: world famine is over because I just ate - Stephen Colbert.
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« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2013, 02:55:09 am » |
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Going back to the San Diego Cross controversy, that has been going on since 1913. What the 9th Circuit Court upheld was that it was written into the California State Constitution Beginning in 1989, almost ten years before the immediate area around the cross was turned into a war memorial, and ongoing to the present, the Mt. Soledad Cross had been involved in a continuous litigation regarding its legal status. According to the cross's opponents' interpretation of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and the No Preference Clause of the California Constitution, it is illegal to display a religious symbol, such as a Christian cross, on public land, as it demonstrates preference to a specific religion and thus violates the separation of church and state It's been a manipulation and maneuvering issue for years with people trying to protect it, and what is written into the state constitution as a "No Preference" to keep the separation of Church and State. All the court did was uphold the state constitution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Soledad_cross_controversy |
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« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2013, 07:39:26 am » |
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Going back to the San Diego Cross controversy, that has been going on since 1913. What the 9th Circuit Court upheld was that it was written into the California State Constitution It's been a manipulation and maneuvering issue for years with people trying to protect it, and what is written into the state constitution as a "No Preference" to keep the separation of Church and State. All the court did was uphold the state constitution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Soledad_cross_controversyEver read the California State Constitution? It starts. . . CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
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We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our
freedom, in order to secure and perpetuate its blessings, do establish this
Constitution.The courts would need to do a lot of work to separate church from state in that state.  |
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« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2013, 01:57:37 am » |
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Ever read the California State Constitution? It starts. . . CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
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We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our
freedom, in order to secure and perpetuate its blessings, do establish this
Constitution.The courts would need to do a lot of work to separate church from state in that state. I think the courts would be backed up for decades trying to do that for every state. |
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2014, 07:00:22 am » |
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Lawmakers in Oklahoma, however, have insisted that the Satanists should not be given the same treatment as Christians.
“This is a faith-based nation and a faith-based state,” Rep. Earl Sears (R-Bartlesville) said. “I think it is very offensive they would contemplate or even have this kind of conversation.”"
...and that is the very core of why state endorsement of ANY religion is wrong.
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« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2014, 09:20:17 am » |
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“You are free to practice any religion you choose, as long as it’s Christianity."
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