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Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on September 18, 2007, 11:54:49 am (http://www.tulsaworld.com/articleimages/2007/070920_A13_hProj60366_A15render20.jpg)
http://www.journalrecord.com/article.cfm?recid=81844 quote: This is the park that will feature "milestones" showing tulsa's oil history, a timed "geyser" fountain and outdoor pavilion/stage and eating areas. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Townsend on September 18, 2007, 02:15:25 pm Not to be negative but I hope the new police office there will help. Trinity and Iron gate just switched where they bait the homeless folk over to the sixth street side. Right down the street from the new park.
I'm excited for the park and leery for the damage the homeless and the taggers might bring. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Conan71 on September 18, 2007, 02:23:15 pm Tagging is one of the issues they've been having to consider on the Centennial time capsule planned for Veteran's Park. I guess a little graffiti is better than a Harley inundated with rust. [;)]
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on September 18, 2007, 02:42:12 pm quote: They should bury the centennial time capsule under the centennial green. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Conan71 on September 18, 2007, 03:04:29 pm Park Department offered the committee a nice space at Vet's Park. It will be another pressure vessel above ground and will be enclosed in a structural vault and bricked in. It's a neat design. There's another member on here who is "in the know" with the design on it if his modesty will allow him to come forward.
I think we are done burying time capsules in this town.[;)] Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: TheArtist on September 18, 2007, 03:13:18 pm Oh, that reminds me I need to do that rendering.[:)]
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: carltonplace on September 20, 2007, 02:10:12 pm Tulsa World Article (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070920_1_A13_hProj60366")about this park:
I'm kinda glad this didn't go forward: Plans for a "Petro Wall," which would have detailed Tulsa's oil history and displayed industry artifacts, have been scrapped, at least for now, because of increasing construction costs Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: pfox on September 20, 2007, 03:54:36 pm I would like to see, someday in the near future, a downtown bicycle station near the CBD core. I have long thought that 6th and Main would be an ideal location.
For those curious about what I mean...take a look at the following link for the Millennium Park Bike Station in Chicago (http://"http://www.chicagobikestation.com/"). It provides free secure bike parking, and for a small membership fee, lockers and showers for commuters. It also houses a branch of the Chicago Bike Patrol, a juice/coffee bar, bike rentals (perhaps a downtown branch of the Tulsa Townies pink bikes?) and bike repair facilities. (http://biketraffic.org/biketraffic/BT0804/images/bike_station_big.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/116/298764182_5b67a69615.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/298762421_e1adf78dae.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/298761048_695b1e3a23.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/106/298760273_1245277183.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/298759908_a812bfacde.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/298759202_a1de8ce674.jpg) Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: TheArtist on September 21, 2007, 03:59:12 pm Yes thats a neat idea. I have seen similar, but smaller things in other cities. Here again though is an example of how our city differs from the lifestyle that people in other cities are used to. When they come here and look around its completely different. Then you hear people on here and other places saying... "Oh, Tulsa is a great place to live and raise a family, we have nice quiet neighborhoods etc. We dont need this or that." I just dont think they realize how different things are here, how many small things are different, but when added together are important for they create and allow a different way of life. Its often hard to explain to these people because they just dont get it since they dont live like that and it doesnt register when you point out each little thing. Actually you hear just the opposite, people complaining about there not being any parking downtown! And you know they arent talking about bikes.[B)]
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Rico on September 21, 2007, 04:22:41 pm quote: I see......... " You just don't think they realize" "They just don't get it" "they don't live like that and it doesn't register" "and you know they aren't talking about bikes" Knowing how attuned you are with the "whazz happening" scene... Could you please help me out here... Who exactly are they....? and if I might enquire....? what is your relationship to them...? Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: booWorld on September 21, 2007, 06:12:55 pm I like the idea of the bike storage. When I ride my bike to work, I take it inside my office building, which isn't convenient.
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: TheArtist on September 21, 2007, 06:49:01 pm quote: Generally speaking, the "ones" who say those things. We often speak in generalities on here. Or do I now need to go back and look for examples of that and list names so that you know who "we" is? Can you tell me exactly what the "wazz happening scene" is that I am supposed to be in tune with? And exactly who this "them" is? Why the seeming animosity all of a sudden? Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Rico on September 21, 2007, 08:39:08 pm quote: "Them"..? Why they are the ones you spoke in "generalities about. No animosity.. Just curious how you define "they".. "Generally speaking" as a resident of Tulsa "they" could be your neighbors.... Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: TheArtist on September 21, 2007, 10:59:14 pm Well I suppose the "THEY" in relationship to me, lol, must be my friends and acquaintances, plus other similar stories I hear about other people who visit and who make similar comments about Tulsa.
The "THEM", who very well could be my neighbors, are "those" "we" have heard on here and that "I" have also run into on other forums and converstations. Sorry I dont remember exact names, I am bad with names. THEY, ... often try to have an active athletic, healthy lifestyle, like living in or close to urban areas that offer lots of activities and are full of energy,(however there are examples of places that are more rural but yet still offer many of the same "city" amenities, lots of arts, community street life, outdoor cafe's,interesting shops, theater, bike trails, lots of similar minded people, a beautiful environment. These are often college towns or centers for the arts.) are often concerned about the environment, are not fans of urban sprawl, like a more "european" style of living, believe in mass transit, are often used to living in environments where you walk a lot, generally like living in dense, walkable, urban areas, like farmers markets, eating healthy, like frequenting art galleries and interesting art museums, often go out and like a good night life, tend to recycle more; like jogging, biking, rollerblading, rock climbing, thus like parks and a good trail system; they travel a lot, like exploring new cultures and ideas,are more tolerant of diversity, are often part of the "creative class". They are generally steryotyped as being younger and more middle class, however I have met people like this in every age range and economic strata. There are different "crowds" within this group, the "artsy nature" crowd who are often artists, like living in older homes, may like a more funky ecclectic decor. The trendy, latte drinking, modern condo dwelling, yuppy, YP crowd. etc. lol But its amazing how many concerns, likes, and priorities they have in common. While not at all the same in every facet, they still share many similar, basic, outlooks and ways of looking at the world that lead them to many similar thoughts, attitudes, likes and dislikes. THEY,... often dont like going downtown, complain about having to walk, complain about not finding parking, prefer a suburban lifestyle, do not travel a lot and wish to explore other cultures, are not as tolerant of diversity or gays, do not bikeride, jog, rollerblade, rock climb, etc. very much, tend to not be as concerned with eating healthy or living a healthy lifestyle, not as concerned about having mass transit, would generally rather live in a home than a condo, would tend to prefer living in a "regular" new home than an old or very modern home. Are less likely to go to art galleries or gallery hopping and the theater and are less likely to be artists or of the "creative class", are less concerned about the environment and recycling. Again, just generalities. There are plenty of exceptions, and indeed other groups. Just trying to help you get the gist of the general differences I am speaking of. And of course not everyone fits into just either group. But those that fit in either group do have very different thoughts, outlooks, expectations and preferred lifestyle. I tend to see myself as having more in common with the people in the first group and thus of course want Tulsa to offer more of those things, that lifestyle here. Someone who may see themselves as fitting more into the second group will have their own priorities and interests. And when it comes to things like spending public tax dollars and what to spend them on, for instance, well you can see the beginnings of some arguments because of those different outlooks, perspectives and priorities. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Rico on September 23, 2007, 06:32:03 pm I would like to see this be a park that incorporates possibly a street vendor or two....
A lunchtime concert... Something else to keep the workers out of their cars for lunch. [:)] Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on September 23, 2007, 08:47:20 pm Given the cheap nature of free WiFi, I don't know why they aren't pushing that. You'd see plenty of YP's ready to camp under a shade tree then.
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: TheArtist on September 23, 2007, 10:44:33 pm quote: That would be a nice spot for it. In the original renderings for the park. That I really liked. They had a small amphitheater and on the opposite side of the amphitheater they had a place for a small cafe type space. I reeeally hope they go with that design. However in the rendering of the fountain in the newspaper article it looked different than I remember. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on September 24, 2007, 07:03:46 am quote: Can't find the rendering you're talking about but the one I remember was a large circle with ripples so the water flowing over it would look like larger ripples, then the fountain in the middle would shoot a geyser at timed intervals. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: OurTulsa on September 24, 2007, 09:20:35 pm I can't help but hope that this park is as practical (usable) and pleasant as Bryant Park in NYC. BP is one of the most enjoyable urban parks I've ever experienced. While our 'green' won't be as big it shares some similarities.
I think we've got a real opportunity to create a park that not only provides a much needed green space but a practical gathering spot for a variety of Tulsans downtown whether its to park and service a bike, pick up a cup of hot chocolate or iced Mocha from a shack vendor that also rents out chess pieces to use on a few permanent tables, use wi-fi, eat lunch, hear a summer concert, do a community movie night, gather as a group utilizing multiple movable tables and chairs, stroll under a canopy (eventually) of trees and enjoying the soothing sound of a water fountain or distant chatter as one makes his/her way from destination A to dest. B among other things. (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/ourtulsa/bpally.jpg?t=1190691916) (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/ourtulsa/BryantParkAllee1.jpg?t=1190692064) (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/ourtulsa/bryant2.jpg?t=1190692126) (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/ourtulsa/bpeating.jpg?t=1190692287) (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/ourtulsa/bpgoogle.jpg?t=1190692351) Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on September 25, 2007, 06:39:23 am quote: See.. I said we needed wifi. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: bokworker on September 25, 2007, 07:27:56 am All those trees would be great if we can keep those d*mn starlings or grackles or whatever those birds are that roost in areas like that and crap all over everything in quantities that are dangerous to ones health.
Anyone that has made the mistake of parking under a tree where they roost knows what I mean.... it is disgusting beyond description. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on September 25, 2007, 08:50:08 am quote: There are ways to keep birds away. Sound clips, cannons, etc. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: OurTulsa on September 25, 2007, 08:54:51 am Our park could have a soundtrack similar to AEP/PSO building. Wouldn't that be annoying!
I don't seem to recall having to navigate bird dropping war zones in BP. Do they roost in certain trees? Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: OurTulsa on September 25, 2007, 08:58:21 am quote: Google's coming to town...sort of...in some circles Pryor would be accepted as part of the Tulsa Metropolitan Area. Here is an opportunity for them to give to the community and advertise themselves! Centennial Park - Wireless Community, sponsored by Google! Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on September 25, 2007, 08:58:36 am quote: Everyone thinks the building has monkeys. Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: TheArtist on September 25, 2007, 01:13:17 pm We need more hawks lol. But that is a nice park. It has a good balance of feeling open yet cosy. Thats one thing I dont like about the park in front of the BOK tower. Its very clumsily designed, poor sight lines, chopped up. The trees that were planted there are either not the kind that grow tall or are still young and will hopefully get better with time. As it is now they block the space and dont make it inviting.
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on October 10, 2007, 01:37:39 pm Concrete is poured for part of the ampitheater area. Finally found the old link to the plans:
http://www.landlegacy.com/blog/2007/08/coming-soon-new-park-in-downtown-tulsa.html Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Kiah on October 10, 2007, 02:51:39 pm quote: As I understand it, it will have free wi fi, thanks to Cox Communications . . . . Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: TheArtist on October 10, 2007, 04:59:44 pm The fountain does look close to what they had in the rendering. I understand they are not doing the wall at the moment due to funding constraints. I really hope they do the small amphitheater as well as it looks in the rendering. Please do things right, even if you have to wait. Dont do lots of rinky dink junk all over the city, that never adds up to anything real. Here is keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: sgrizzle on December 03, 2007, 09:35:13 am Current construction makes it look like someone reveresd the plan, with the ampitheater on the NE corner instead of the SW one.
Title: Centennial Green Progress Post by: Oil Capital on December 03, 2007, 06:49:50 pm quote: Does anyone know what's going on at the site? I see cars parked there, but never actually see anyone working on site; and not much (if any) visible progress has occurred over the past several weeks. Perhaps I just happen to drive by during their breaks; and perhaps they are just at a stage of the work that is not very visible. Anyone know? |