Wrinkle
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« on: January 07, 2009, 01:12:29 pm » |
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Why isn't the 41st Bridge in the Mayor's Project List for Obama?
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Townsend
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2009, 01:29:21 pm » |
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There's a park in the way
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swake
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 01:56:57 pm » |
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Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 02:08:24 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by swake
Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
The one south will not be accessible from riverside shortly.
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swake
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 02:12:55 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by sgrizzle
quote: Originally posted by swake
Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
The one south will not be accessible from riverside shortly.
The ramps are going? Wow
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Nik
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 02:39:35 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by swake
quote: Originally posted by sgrizzle
quote: Originally posted by swake
Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
The one south will not be accessible from riverside shortly.
The ramps are going? Wow
Looking at the map, the ramp westbound will be gone, but the one east bound will remain. Granted, the map I'm basing this on is over 3 years old.
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« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 02:43:07 pm by Nik »
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sgrizzle
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 03:08:06 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by Nik
quote: Originally posted by swake
quote: Originally posted by sgrizzle
quote: Originally posted by swake
Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
The one south will not be accessible from riverside shortly.
The ramps are going? Wow
Looking at the map, the ramp westbound will be gone, but the one east bound will remain. Granted, the map I'm basing this on is over 3 years old.
I think the eastbound "entrance" is really just skelly drive which takes you to peoria. You don't actually get on the highway until you pass Peoria.
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AngieB
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 03:24:24 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by Nik
quote: Originally posted by swake
quote: Originally posted by sgrizzle
quote: Originally posted by swake
Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
The one south will not be accessible from riverside shortly.
The ramps are going? Wow
Looking at the map, the ramp westbound will be gone, but the one east bound will remain. Granted, the map I'm basing this on is over 3 years old.
Nice. Let's isolate the westside even more. [xx(]
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Nik
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 03:43:25 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by TulsaMINI
quote: Originally posted by Nik
quote: Originally posted by swake
quote: Originally posted by sgrizzle
quote: Originally posted by swake
Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
The one south will not be accessible from riverside shortly.
The ramps are going? Wow
Looking at the map, the ramp westbound will be gone, but the one east bound will remain. Granted, the map I'm basing this on is over 3 years old.
Nice. Let's isolate the westside even more. [xx(]
thats slightly melodramatic. its one onramp.
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PonderInc
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 04:19:51 pm » |
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Well, you do have to wonder why the lack of connectivity isn't more of an issue. What if there were fewer connections between midtown and south Tulsa? Imagine if Harvard and Yale came to dead ends at 61st south, and then Sheridan connected, but Memorial and Mingo didn't... (Ooooh! I've just imagined Utopia!) There would be an outcry about the neccessity to connect south Tulsa with the rest of the city. It would be deemed an economic development issue, a housing development issue, and an equality issue.
Why isn't there a similar outcry about connecting west Tulsa?
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 04:21:30 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by TulsaMINI
quote: Originally posted by Nik
quote: Originally posted by swake
quote: Originally posted by sgrizzle
quote: Originally posted by swake
Why do you think a 41st Street bridge is needed with one a mile south and another two miles north?
The one south will not be accessible from riverside shortly.
The ramps are going? Wow
Looking at the map, the ramp westbound will be gone, but the one east bound will remain. Granted, the map I'm basing this on is over 3 years old.
Nice. Let's isolate the westside even more. [xx(]
there's a texas turn-around at Peoria. You're not losing an on-ramp.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 04:28:48 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by PonderInc
Well, you do have to wonder why the lack of connectivity isn't more of an issue. What if there were fewer connections between midtown and south Tulsa? Imagine if Harvard and Yale came to dead ends at 61st south, and then Sheridan connected, but Memorial and Mingo didn't... (Ooooh! I've just imagined Utopia!) There would be an outcry about the neccessity to connect south Tulsa with the rest of the city. It would be deemed an economic development issue, a housing development issue, and an equality issue.
Why isn't there a similar outcry about connecting west Tulsa?
Its really no different than I-44, 244 or the BA, acting as a barrier to movement N-S. You have to go out of your way to cross at many places. I think there are much more pressing issues facing this city than a few thousand people living on the west-side having to drive 2 miles out of their way to cross a natural barrier.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2009, 05:22:38 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by Townsend
There's a park in the way
What Park? You mean the one that was supposed to be finished last September? It needs to be built before it can be in the way.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 07:00:40 pm » |
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quote: Originally posted by PonderInc
Well, you do have to wonder why the lack of connectivity isn't more of an issue. What if there were fewer connections between midtown and south Tulsa? Imagine if Harvard and Yale came to dead ends at 61st south, and then Sheridan connected, but Memorial and Mingo didn't... (Ooooh! I've just imagined Utopia!) There would be an outcry about the neccessity to connect south Tulsa with the rest of the city. It would be deemed an economic development issue, a housing development issue, and an equality issue.
Why isn't there a similar outcry about connecting west Tulsa?
Not the similar growth.
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