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http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/04/wheres-media-rotting-racist-underbelly.html

"Many white supremacists report planning to attend Tea Parties or already have and some are looking for a way to recruit into their White Nationalist movement. There’s an awful lot of Tea Party chatter among these folks. Why doesn’t the media cover this angle?"

watch the video folks.....[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNQUA0bI5b0&eurl=http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/04/wheres-media-rotting-racist-underbelly.html&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

I never thought of it that way...   My displeasure with the government (both parties mind you, Republicans had their chance and instead spent like drunken Democrats,) is really a clever ruse to hide the fact that I hate blacks.


I love how people can bend the truth to distort the facts...

Maybe you should tell us again how Bush orchestrated the trade center collapse.

I heard on the radio someone had complained that the Tea Party protests were "too white" to wish the nationally syndicated host replied "yeah, but 98% of the taxes are paid by white people, so what do you expect?"

Everyone knows these were just KKK recruiting events, Grizzle.

Next year I plan on refusing to pay my taxes all together, because I hate black people.

/sarcasm  (just in case someones a total idiot)

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that right-wing hate groups didn't use them to their advantage. I seem to vaguely recall a militia movement and a bombing of a certain OKC federal building that grew out of this same sentiment that conveniently raised its head immediately after a Democrat was elected...

What about the left-wing hate groups and their events after Republicans get elected?  ;)

I've stayed out of the discussions on the Tea Parties to now and have had zero interest in attending them.  Personally, I think it's further fomenting the partisan rift in our country which think that is one of the biggest stumbling blocks we have toward overall progress.  On the odd occasion that my radio dial finds Hannity, I'm more and more concerned about the exaggerated BS he's pumping.  He kept hammering on the relationships with Bill Ayers, Father Flager, et.al. for weeks AFTER the election was over.  Savage is getting even worse, he sounds totally paranoid now.

Do I completely agree with the direction President Obama is steering the country?  No.  Do we need such shrill partisanship to oppose it?  No.  I don't see what it's helping, and I really don't have the patience to listen to this smile for the next 3 3/4 years.

You are a racist!!!




/sarcasm  (just in case FOTD continues being FOTD)

+1

Well said Conan. Hannity is downright scary. I also have refused to discuss the tea baggers except to ask the simple question, "where have you guys been the last two or three decades?"  No good rationalizations have emerged yet.

But what really caught my attention was how this was foisted on Tulsa and by who. Conservative media who dominate the airwaves, Republicans who are looking for a cause and Libertarians who naively think either of the other two parties are really interested in the same things they are. Gun nuts and racist Nazis see opportunity as well.

The visitors to the demonstration at Lafortune Park commandeered the parking lots of the nearby shopping center congesting their opportunities for commercial business. Parked their big 'ol SUV's, trucks and Lexii in a privately owned shopping center without conscience and probably ruined sales for the day.

Those who attended the one at Veterans Park may have noticed that they parked their big 'ol gas guzzlers ALL OVER THE PARK! Illegal, inconsiderate and made more of a statement about them than about their demonstration over unfair taxes. And that statement was, "We are special and our cause is noble so we can justify using other peoples property for ourselves to get what we want."

Waterboy,

Politics makes strange bed fellows.  If the super right wing vote or the super left wing vote is on board with my vision of a better tax system, then I'm happy to use them for my ends to that goal.  Just because I share the idea of a better tax system with someone who is a Nazi, an anti-globalizationist who hates big government for other reasons, a member of the KKK, or someone who voted for Kucinich - doesn't mean I want to run out and join them on their other causes.  Nor, I suspect, they on mine. 

During the Vietnam war some white supremacist groups wanted to end the drafting of black men because they thought it degraded the military (and that's why the war wasn't going well).  The Black Panthers wanted pretty much the same thing.  But I bet they didn't agree on much else.

At the tax rallies I'm sure there were jerks, buttholes, gun nuts, racists, and whatever else you can come up with.  Just like at every economic summit cop cars always seem to burst into flames and stores lose windows.  It doesn't mean the cause lacks merit and it doesn't mean that MOST of the protestors aren't there with legitimate aims.

Frankly, I just glad to see citizenry out (peacefully) protesting in Tulsa.  Anything really.  I even look forward to the God Hates Fags people and/or Nazi's to come to town.  This town is so (ambivalent, lethargic - what word am I looking for here?), they don't really care about much enough to actually say something about it in public.

CF,

I can understand why you would tolerate unseemly alliances to accomplish a "good". Teamwork is not foreign to me and we certainly used the concept during WWII and the cold war. I always look for some common thread with my fellow man. However, I don't think that lowering tax burdens, which will always, and have always, seemed too high and poorly spent, is a strong enough common motive to ally with those who would subjugate their fellow man over race, sex, religion or politics. This is not war. I just am careful who I run with.

The potential for violent division that Hannity, Limbaugh et al are fertilizing feverishly will come back to haunt them. I was alive when this same undercurrent was being fed in the early 60's. This feels the same. It led to the assassination of several popular politicians and the alienation of a generation.

Not to be too serious though. I agree its refreshing to see Tulsan's get excited by something and get off their sofas for something other than a festival or the fair.

Coming up on a year of The Teahad....

"And just compare the Republican attitudes toward political “anger” during the Bush years with their new-found appreciation for anger today. The anger now is fully justified because “Washington Democrats just aren’t listening,” John Boehner maintains.

In other words, if you were angry about Bush’s actions, you were irrational, but if you’re furious about Obama’s policies on health reform, your fury is considered “understandable.”


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/032710a.html


The Tea Party movement employs violence and threats of violence to try to scare government into changing its agenda and voters into supporting right-wing candidates. Using fear of violence to try to change behavior has a name, it's called, "Terrorism." The Tea Party movement is rapidly becoming a terrorist movement and should be labeled as such.


With No Jobs, Plenty of Time for Tea Party
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28teaparty.html



Burning Man for fat white people. I don't remember sitting in chairs with coolers full of beer when we were protesting the Vietnam or other wars.

These people are just there to get drunk.

And yet, no one can explain how the Tea Baggers can be so upset about tax hikes when they just got the biggest tax cut in the history of the world.  So, the whole premise is built on a lie.  And we saw from Iraq the power of the "big lie".

And Hannity has a long, long history as a liar.  As recently as this last Presidential election, he was still trotting out the old (8 years old!) garbage he spewed for 8 years during Billy-Bob's time in office.  The lies he continued throughout 2008 about how the Clinton's left the White House taking all the art from the walls with them, stealing computers, and coating all the desks and vertical surfaces with feces.

Yeah,... there's a class act.  ALL of it low.

As many reasons as there were to be against Clinton, why do all the lies?  Well, I guess because they can't rile up their following with just the truth.  Truth 1 about Billy-Bob;  he wasn't all that bad for the simple fact that he was unable to do anything to really do damage to us, with the exception of a piddly little amount of "assault rifle" ban.  That was ineffective and short lived.

I went fishing on the Chesapeake Bay.

I was at the U at TU for a couple of those Viet-Nam war protests - even got teargassed once.  Good times!

Anyone remember the "Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers"? 
Motto;  Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope.

Yep,... no beer.

Ahhhhhhhhh, the good ole days.

Oh please,another conservative conspiracy I suppose. ::)

I bet you could smell the crazy.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100402_11_0_Antigo807277 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100402_11_0_Antigo807277)

Sounds like a gun show but without the guns...wait a minute...this IS the TP we're talking about.

Mostly conservatives are the ones who subscribe to the 'birther' insanity.

I'll take that 'obvious' sign off my back now.
 ;D

This vid nails the lies:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0UIUdDMbeU&feature=player_embedded#[/youtube]

Nothing to tell truth from fiction in that vid....more like friction, but still mainly fiction.

Guidoedoe, I get the impression you have a complex developed from people accusing you of being a racist. Were you hanging out over the weekend in a Tulsa educational facility?

Nope, I worked on another civil rights lawsuit for a plaintiff. How about you? What have you done lately to advance the civil rights cause?

The civil rights of a white supremacist, I'm certain

Probably being forced to pay for their digital cable.

At the risk of being called a post padder, I can't resist.

bucking awesome!

I think its funny that vietnam protesters are making fun of the tea baggers - different sides to the same coin.  At heart each group has real political agendas that make sense.  But in reality one is hate filled beer swigging religious fascist zealots and the other is pot smoking draft dodging idealist pinko hippies.  At least when you boil it down to the correlated perception of each...

I don't remember a chair and a cooler of beer to protest vietnam either, but there were blankets and bags of weed.   ;D

And in the end, neither makes much of a difference.  The more everyone pretends things have changed the more they just stay the same.  Bush lies.  Obama lies.   Yippie!

And the hippies were thirstier...

Lest anyone think that Tea Partiers are all hateful, disaffected Repiglicans, according to one poll 13% say they are Democrats.

O"f the 17% who claim allegiance to the tea party movement, 28% say they are independents, and 13% are Democrats. So four out of 10 aren’t Republicans."

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_45_1343.aspx

Doones has been all over it!

Figures I would hear loud crickets from this loser who talks a good game but does sh!t in the real world to advance the cause of civil rights. Anyway, look at all these racists at the tea parties:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcsnWLLdl70[/youtube]

More proof of the stupid virus http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=15362.0  running rampant. Guido, the virus is not limited to ethnicity, race, or religion.

Besides, after the O'Keefe stunt, what makes that sh!t credible?

Martin Lawrence has you pegged right around 3:20.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhzLsioDatM&feature=player_embedded#[/youtube]

Have you ever wondered how a majority of unemployed people have the money to tour the country, stay in motels, etc? Dang, unemployment checks must be good. It made me curious enough to do a search to see who is funding all of this. Half of these people probably have no idea what they are protesting, but the pay looks like it might be pretty good.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tea_Party_movement_funding

So, the major liberal activist groups aren't funded by wealthy liberals?

Soros anyone?

Oh, of course they are. My point is that the teabaggers are touted as being upset Americans who are "in the know" and are looking for change.  This weekend they were being interviewed and it was quite amusing.  One of the questions was if Pres. Obama is an American-born citizen and the majority of them answered, "No." They really have no idea what in the world they're protesting.

Just from listening to their responses, it was obvious they are nothing more then people who are being paid to travel the country and hold up signs and yell. Guess it gives Fox news something to talk about.

Can you please refrain from using the term "teab*****"?  Nasty.

At any rate, many people jump into protests not fully understanding what they are protesting.  Think of how many people supported health care reform who had no real knowledge of what they were asking for nor the consequences.

Think about how many protested against HC reform making blind assumptions it was raw communism.

There are many voters who are now disappointed they voted for President Obama, not fully thinking through his economic and social policies simply because they wanted to be a part of history or because it was a vote against McCain whom some thought would equate to a third term of President Bush.

Mindless protesting is nothing new in this country.

Now where you get the idea these are paid shills is beyond me, but if you insist...

Most of us voted against him because of the prospect of a half-wit (here come the adhoms) one heartbeat away from the Presidency.  If he had chosen Pawlenty or Lieberman (even though I knew his handlers wouldn't let him) or if he hadn't been in his 70s, I might have been more apt to listen.  After hearing some of Gov Palin's comments after she was announced though, I knew I wouldn't have voted for him even if a gun was put to my head to force me to.

That woman is plain scary.

Word jumble...

On the first count: Joe Biden...ahem.

On the second count: agreed

Scary like this former candidate for public office (the candidate who thought heterosexual marriage was a hot button in a county commission election):

I think that the majority of Americans protest with their votes. 

It's hard to view the Tea Party movement in the same category as liberal protest movements. 

Tea partiers tend to be civil and practice a significant degree of restraint.  Sure there are a few shouters, but when compared with people who camp naked in trees, burn flags, throw blood and paint, praise the death of soldiers, scream profanity, or chain themselves to buildings, they seem more like a tour group with fanny-packs.

I'm not sure what marginalization attempts will be more successful against them.  It is interesting to watch them absorb blows from all angles and continue to grow.  As with most protest groups, the more outlandish the attacks the more it fuels the movement.  Should be interesting to watch as election time nears.

While Biden has a knack for talking a little (haha) too much, at least he has experience on the national and international stage.  And 30 years in the US Senate.  I think that trumps 2 years as a state Governor.

Plus, he doesn't sound like a kook when he talks (just a sailor).

Bidenisms:

"Look, John's last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S."

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed. He said, "look, here's what happened."'

"Uh, uh, Chuck Graham, state senator, is here. Stand up, Chuck, let ‘em see you. Oh, God love you. What am I talking about." (Chuck Graham is wheel-chair bound, fyi)

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man."

"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking."

Soros? That's the guy whose fortune is about $4 billion smaller than Tea Party backer David Koch's, right?

What's your point?

Oh yeah, Koch is an evil industrialist/oil patch guy, whose company actually employs 70,000 people and they produce something.  Actually, many somethings.  One of those wealthy people who you and Wevus don't credit with re-investing in the economy.

Soros is just an honest hard-working schmoe who makes money with, wait, money.  He's got real ethics too:

"There is also the moral problem that we have with the way enormously rich people make their money. Other than wealth created by virtue of an invention, such as Edison and electricity, the acquisition of wealth is not a guiltless process, nor certainly is it a profitless and without harm transfer of monies. Notwithstanding Soros' professed interest in helping people via his charities, there is the fact that speculation in foreign currencies a la Soros, can beget economic havoc in countries. In 1992, Soros earned one billion dollars in a one day by betting that the British pound would fall. Although Soros denies it, there are some that accuse him of causing the 1997 Asian economic crisis by his betting against the Thai baht. When these sorts of things occur it ultimately filters down to the humblest of a country's citizens. It is said that when a butterfly flutters its wings on a plain in Africa, it begets a hurricane in Louisiana. Soros is no butterfly!"

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1203/mason_soros.php3

I'm not the one who brought up rich benefactors. You just seemed to be unaware that the Tea Party movement is largely funded by Koch. I don't know where you got the idea that I think that him running a business that employs people is a bad thing.

And seriously, the Jew card?

Gaspar: What on earth makes you think that the Tea Partiers are any more civil than the usual 'liberal' protesters? The several hundred thousand that marched in NYC against the Iraq war during the 2004 RNC convention were by and large civil. Of course, the media hypes the few folks who are idiots. Just like the Tea Partiers, who got tarred with a pretty wide brush when a few of their own decided to spew forth racist and homophobic comments and throw bricks through 'liberal' windows.

Wow! What a novel idea. To actually create something rather than just move money around, everyone taking a cut, would be something special.  I think we did that at one time in the past.

I cite an article from a Jewish publication and you call that "the Jew card?"  What a baiter.

What difference does it make if David Koch's money is flowing into the Tea Party?  Explain to me please how is that any more or less relevant than Soros' money trying to influence progressive issues via MoveOn, ThinkProgress, the DNC, and all the other progressive PAC's his money trickles into?

He's precisely the "evil" Wall St. type stereotype that liberals love to publicly demonize.  Ah, but he's a good man because he donates a lot of money even though his gains are made largely on other's losses.  Most wealthy people do donate a lot of money to causes they support: political, social, educational, religious, etc.

Once again, you're getting all fighty towards a straw man. I think Koch has done a lot of good, actually. He supports many causes I agree with. It's unfortunate he has chosen to support the Tea Party movement, but people do sometimes disagree with me. That's OK.

At no time did I make a value judgment regarding either Koch or Soros. You presume I hold these beliefs because that's what you presume all 'liberals' must think. Whatever helps keep your beliefs from being challenged...

It was my mistake in thinking that the "Jewish World Review" was one of those sites talking about the evil jew bankers who are supposedly ruining the world.

David Koch is evil and he has an evil brother. Grass roots leaders? Liars. Boheners boners.

Soros is good because of his pro freedom positions.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZFyH1BM9ec[/youtube]



Sweet Jesus, you really don't understand the difference between Koch and Soros....you really are from Dumbf@ckistan. Nathanm, please tell me what good these oligarchs from Wishita have brought.

About the Jew card....get real.

What was your original point about Soros having $4bln less net worth than Koch?

Strawman?

You invoked Soros as an example of a "wealthy liberal" bankrolling 'liberal' causes. I invoked Koch as a counterexample, indicating that Soros is not unique amongst the ultra-wealthy in supporting partisan causes, and that in fact the right has the support of people even more wealthy than Soros.

I guess you didn't click on Jammie's link then, that link pointed out David Koch is a big supporter of the Tea Party, to which I replied about Soros.  At any rate, you arrived late, Nate.

Gates and Buffett love dem some Dims too.

I may have just not been paying attention, but I don't recall either of them funding organizations like Americans For Prosperity.

On a different subject, what is interesting about the Tea Party movement is how much support they get from the media. Fox News has even branded the tax day protests the "FNC Tea Party Tax Day Protests."

LMAO now.  How much support have the DNC and typically liberal-leaning causes recieved from a multitude of other media outlets over the years?  Global warming? er climate change, pro-abortion, anti war rhetoric including troop dead counts, health care reform, etc. ad nauseum.  Fox has always been open on their commentary shows about who and what they support, as has MSNBC, or the anti-Faux.  The news editing on the big three has always been slanted to favor a more liberal bent.

One thing about the Tea Party which does amaze me is the homoginization of the Tea Party movement as a bunch of gun-toting right wing extremists.  In reality, they seem to me to be to be a bunch of citizens who are tired and afraid of business-as-usual and favor tossing out incumbents including Republicans.  Of course, it's to the benefit of incumbents and Democrats in particular to try and discredit Tea Party members as loner bomber types or beer-swilling racist red necks.  In reality these people are their constituents and they are tired of being ignored.  It's a mistake they are being marginalized as I believe that is leading to more and more people joining with the ranks.  Poll numbers seemed to show that less than 50% of the TP members identify themselves as Republican.  The majory are Ind. and Dem.

I think it will have an impact on the November elections.  I have no affilliation nor particular affinity for the Tea Party movement, just calling it as I see it.

I applaud people who seek to be active in their government process.  Even those with whom I disagree.

So far as who's checkbook is biggest and who contributes the most to which partisan cause, that's nothing more than a big d*** contest to get our eyes off the important issues.

Yeah, that big media, it was real supportive of not going to war in the first place. They covered the hundreds of thousands protesting in NYC in '04 so well. </sarcasm>

If that's truly how you see things, this discussion simply can't be productive, because one of us is not engaged with reality as it relates to the media, which in my view, is all about whatever makes money for their owners.

Whether or not its members claim themselves to be Republicans, they're drawing almost exclusively from the right side of the political spectrum.  You might find a conservative Democrat in there, or independents who lean rightward, but it's just not nearly as representative of the US as a whole as it portrays itself. 

This CNN poll says it pretty straightforwardly:  it's the Party of Guido (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/17/tea.party.poll/)

"Washington (CNN) -- Activists in the Tea Party movement tend to be male, rural, upscale, and overwhelmingly conservative, according to a new national poll.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Wednesday also indicates that Tea Party activists would vote overwhelmingly Republican in a two-party race for Congress. "

I'd be shocked, honestly, if it was any different.  All the Tea Party ideas at their core are classic Reagan-era ideas.  It's Sun-Belt, Don't Tread on Me-stuff.  People are just WAAAY more intense about them than ever before.

And really the problem with the Tea Party isn't that it has a rightwing gun-toting fringe.  All major political movements have their fringes.  The Tea Party's problem is that, without strong leadership to shape the message, the loudest voices are the guys screaming into the congressman's face at the townhall meetings, or the moron who brought his Glock to the rally, or to the birthers who still think Obama isn't legit.  The Tea Party may have legitimate underpinnings, but it's getting drowned out by the crazy, and if it's not careful, the crazy will chase away the independents and the centrists leaving only the nutjobs.

If you don't watch out we're going to have to yank that whole "independent thinker of the rightish persuasion" badge you keep so carefully polished.  That's a lot of ripe GOP claptrap up there, including the "Fox is only biased during their opinion programming,"  conveniently leaving out that pretty much everything except for the stray Major Garrett segment is opinion.

Okla. tea parties and lawmakers envision militia (http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2010/04/okla_tea_parties_and_lawmakers_envision_militia.php?ref=mp)

Okla. tea party leaders and legislators envision militia designed to fight federal mandates

SEAN MURPHY and TIM TALLEY
AP News (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TEA_PARTY_MILITIA?SITE=KLIF&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

Apr 12, 2010 17:54 EDT

Frustrated by recent political setbacks, tea party leaders and some conservative members of the Oklahoma Legislature say they would like to create a new volunteer militia to help defend against what they believe are improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.

Tea party movement leaders say they've discussed the idea with several supportive lawmakers and hope to get legislation next year to recognize a new volunteer force. They say the unit would not resemble militia groups that have been raided for allegedly plotting attacks on law enforcement officers.

This is a thread about racism after all. What did you expect?

Have you ever been to a tea party or are you basing your opinions of its participants on what you see on TV?

Let's go crazy!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zx2omCCKLg[/youtube]

Me and Shadows will take you to this show!
Wevus will drive!

I'm basing this particular post on a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll.  

I'm also basing it on that fact that most of the stuff I see coming out of the Tea Party I find pretty objectionable, and, as a card carrying liberal of the first degree, my reaction alone makes the Tea Party stuff suitably conservative for most conservative Americans.

Sorry, couldn't resist the temptation.  I tried.  Really.

Just look at these violent tea partiers:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMNjWz1BCBc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

The gun-toting nitwits are also doing a lot of whining that those who point out the danger of their actions are "thin-skinned liberals," smearing their critics.

Here's a fun little thought experiment: Imagine if the Tea Party was black! (http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html)

"Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic?"

I didn't watch the whole video.  When do they start exercising their Second Amendment rights?

SPOT ON!

You mean like images such as these (and no, I'm not comparing the Black Panthers to the Tea Party folks):

(http://www.moonbattery.com/black-panthers.jpg)

(http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/images/bpp/wsa/black%20panthers_1969.jpg)

(http://courses.csusm.edu/hist347as/vc/vc40054.jpg)

You could have at least chosen Lenin. Stalin is a murderous madman on the order of Hitler. If you wouldn't compare someone to Hitler, you probably ought not compare them to Stalin, either. If you want to call people liberal, compare them to Bernie Sanders or Al Franken or Dennis Kucinich. ;)

Nathanm,
That would not be reactionary enough.  Those are actually logical, sensible people, so would be unfair comparison to themselves.

When did Kucinich become logical or sensible?  His wife sure is hawt though.

Guido,

Those Black Panther pics depict a different time of American oppression. Teatards are not oppressed.

No, they aren't subject to ridicule and hatred at all.

They bring that on themselves....has nothing to do with hate. More like lack of an education. There will be no sympathy for those over 50 who lack intelligence on some level.

You're right, I don't pity you one bit

For the love of pete, shut the he!! up. Your excuse making is a freakin embarrassment.

Conan,
I am picking and choosing.  Choosing Al Franken out of that group....just didn't make it clear.

Good choice, he's the poster boy for lucidity.

(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/12/23-End/al_franken_bunny_web.jpg)

Your way of thinking is not the only correct way of thinking. He is quite logical and sensible, within the framework of his ideals.

Within the framework of their ideals, so are Limbaugh and friends.

(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/72409627.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD86D4DC377177A760247A88DA25A0C4716D8D753DCC63D4DFF06BF04B24B4128C)

Figgers....you'd make fun of him singing God Bless America. And he's obviously no toe tapper (see Conan's post)....

Oh that's what he's doing to that mic.

More hate coming from...er...being directed at the Tea Party folks.

Very strong content warning:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSQIYStgBYY&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]

What's your point? Bush was not black except between the ears?

LOL.  Gotta love Franken for making people laugh!  (At least people that have a sense of humor and a brain to appreciate same.)

Politicians are always fair game for comedians.  Some cross the line from funny, even at your favorite politician's expense, to venomous.  Letterman did that for me during the 2008 election.  I haven't watched him since.

Franken's turned out ok....but the Teatards and Grand Obstructionist Potty still don't get it....

Conservatives are more nitwitty than ever.....


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