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« Reply #150 on: February 27, 2016, 04:52:20 pm »

Donald Trump on Friday had an unusual encounter with a protester (in O[a]klahoma City).

A protester in the seats behind Trump on Friday lifted a sign that read "Islamophobia is not the answer."
Waiting for security, police or staff to spring into action, Trump paced the stage and came close to the man, who had removed a jacket to reveal a shirt with the words "KKK endorses Trump" and a yellow star reminiscent of those worn by Jews during the Holocaust on his chest.

"In the good old days, they'd rip him out of that seat so fast, but today everybody is politically correct -- our country's going to hell for being politically correct," Trump said, as the man was whisked away after a few minutes.

"The police: they're afraid to move. They're afraid to move," Trump added. When a smiling protester was escorted out of his last rally in Las Vegas earlier this week before the Nevada primary, Trump said that he wanted to "punch him in the face."

Friday's encounter comes one day after former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke discussed his support for Trump.

http://www.koco.com/politics/trump-confronts-protester-in-strange-encounter/38221110



Friday evening was not the first time Mr. Trump has questioned the alacrity of police. But he used the moment to go into his views on waterboarding, and bring up a debate in which he was asked about it.

“What do you think of water boarding? I said I think it’s just fine,” Mr. Trump said, recounting his answer. “And frankly, if you want to go a step above, or two or three steps above, that’s O.K. with me, too.”

Speaking earlier in the day in Fort Worth, Mr. Trump, who has been the subject of numerous articles about his business dealings and past statements, also said that, if elected, he would “open up” libel laws, so that when journalists write “purposely negative horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”



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« Reply #151 on: February 27, 2016, 06:28:03 pm »

Donald Trump on Friday had an unusual encounter with a protester (in O[a]klahoma City).

A protester in the seats behind Trump on Friday lifted a sign that read "Islamophobia is not the answer."
Waiting for security, police or staff to spring into action, Trump paced the stage and came close to the man, who had removed a jacket to reveal a shirt with the words "KKK endorses Trump" and a yellow star reminiscent of those worn by Jews during the Holocaust on his chest.

"In the good old days, they'd rip him out of that seat so fast, but today everybody is politically correct -- our country's going to hell for being politically correct," Trump said, as the man was whisked away after a few minutes.

"The police: they're afraid to move. They're afraid to move," Trump added. When a smiling protester was escorted out of his last rally in Las Vegas earlier this week before the Nevada primary, Trump said that he wanted to "punch him in the face."

Friday's encounter comes one day after former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke discussed his support for Trump.

http://www.koco.com/politics/trump-confronts-protester-in-strange-encounter/38221110



Friday evening was not the first time Mr. Trump has questioned the alacrity of police. But he used the moment to go into his views on waterboarding, and bring up a debate in which he was asked about it.

“What do you think of water boarding? I said I think it’s just fine,” Mr. Trump said, recounting his answer. “And frankly, if you want to go a step above, or two or three steps above, that’s O.K. with me, too.”

Speaking earlier in the day in Fort Worth, Mr. Trump, who has been the subject of numerous articles about his business dealings and past statements, also said that, if elected, he would “open up” libel laws, so that when journalists write “purposely negative horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”





The second he suggested a database for Muslims I checked out. Never forget.
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« Reply #152 on: February 27, 2016, 10:14:26 pm »


Speaking earlier in the day in Fort Worth, Mr. Trump, who has been the subject of numerous articles about his business dealings and past statements, also said that, if elected, he would “open up” libel laws, so that when journalists write “purposely negative horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”[/i]


Fort Worth???

They couldn’t give him a tour in a convertible through Dealey Plaza after that?

Dude is clearly unhinged.  "I really want to punch that f**ker Putin in the face."
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« Reply #153 on: February 29, 2016, 01:51:58 pm »

Fort Worth???

They couldn’t give him a tour in a convertible through Dealey Plaza after that?

Dude is clearly unhinged.  "I really want to punch that f**ker Putin in the face."

Oppressing the free press; no historical comparisons there.  Roll Eyes


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"In the good old days, they'd rip him out of that seat so fast, but today everybody is politically correct -- our country's going to hell for being politically correct," Trump said, as the man was whisked away after a few minutes.

"The police: they're afraid to move. They're afraid to move,"



Now he's getting his wish.


(CNN) A photographer covering a Donald Trump rally in Virginia said a Secret Service agent choked him and slammed him to the ground Monday as he tried to leave a media pen at the event where a protest erupted.

Time magazine photographer Chris Morris told CNN that as he tried to exit the media pen, a Secret Service agent began choking him.

"I'm not pressing charges," Morris said Monday. "I stepped 18 inches out of the pen and he grabbed me by the neck and started choking me and then he slammed me to the ground."




Im hoping April Fools is his big day, otherwise we might want to really take a closer look at Germany in the 1930's.
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« Reply #154 on: February 29, 2016, 07:14:55 pm »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCYYkMim_BA/
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« Reply #155 on: February 29, 2016, 08:08:25 pm »

No matter what that guy said there is no way that should be the reaction.
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« Reply #156 on: March 01, 2016, 08:15:50 am »

This should be mandatory viewing for anyone proclaiming allegiance to Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ


Seriously, I would love to hear a supporter defend any of those antics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ


Watch the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ
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« Reply #157 on: March 01, 2016, 09:04:57 am »

No matter what that guy said there is no way that should be the reaction.

TIME Responds to Confrontation With Secret Service at Trump Event
http://time.com/4241899/donald-trump-rally-time-photographer-chris-morris/
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« Reply #158 on: March 01, 2016, 09:31:12 am »

Supporters of Trump...just the kind of people we are making by the ongoing degradation school systems throughout the nation, and particularly in Okrahoma.  Ignorance and Stupidstition are rampant, gaining ground, and will put us back into a medieval dark ages much sooner than we can possibly imagine.  Our age of enlightenment has been in the ending stages for several decades now, and one can only expect it to continue.


http://kfor.com/2016/02/29/oklahoma-city-teachers-powerful-open-letter-about-the-struggles-of-teaching-is-gaining-attention-online/


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« Reply #159 on: March 01, 2016, 09:46:54 am »

I don't know what it means, but the turnout at my precinct had two lines and the Republican one didn't have much activity. Perhaps they are all better employed than the other line, but I expected the opposite.

H, no amount of education makes up for faith. These are emotional/spiritual decisions that override education. Throw in propaganda and generations of erroneous assumptions and you have the basis of political parties. Not to be too philosophical, just making note from experience. So many times I have had conversations with people who are quite knowledgeable about their particular industry, but just plain damn stupid about real life. When they say, " my daddy always said...." or "what church do you go to..." I just tune out.
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« Reply #160 on: March 01, 2016, 09:50:30 am »

I don't know what it means, but the turnout at my precinct had two lines and the Republican one didn't have much activity. Perhaps they are all better employed than the other line, but I expected the opposite.

H, no amount of education makes up for faith. These are emotional/spiritual decisions that override education. Throw in propaganda and generations of erroneous assumptions and you have the basis of political parties. Not to be too philosophical, just making note from experience. So many times I have had conversations with people who are quite knowledgeable about their particular industry, but just plain damn stupid about real life. When they say, " my daddy always said...." or "what church do you go to..." I just tune out.

Living here as someone with a decent comprehension of world events has made me evolve over the years from a secular Christian to an atheist.  I'm sure that will likely not surprise some of you, but really, with the events I've dealt with in the last 18 months, it's the conclusion I've come to.

That doesn't mean I will lambaste everyone of you of faith.  I've learned that many atheists do not care if others are of faith, and will not speak down to someone who does espouse it.  It's a personal decision.  Like the decision I made.

The only time I will let someone have it is if they start proselytizing.  I draw the line there.
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« Reply #161 on: March 01, 2016, 10:29:55 am »

Living here as someone with a decent comprehension of world events has made me evolve over the years from a secular Christian to an atheist.  I'm sure that will likely not surprise some of you, but really, with the events I've dealt with in the last 18 months, it's the conclusion I've come to.

That doesn't mean I will lambaste everyone of you of faith.  I've learned that many atheists do not care if others are of faith, and will not speak down to someone who does espouse it.  It's a personal decision.  Like the decision I made.

The only time I will let someone have it is if they start proselytizing.  I draw the line there.

What I’ve found is people who denigrate other’s spiritual belief system (or lack thereof) generally aren’t comfortable with their own beliefs so they feel they either need to recruit others to validate their beliefs or need to knock down someone else’s spiritual beliefs.

What MC and I view as spiritual is deeply personal, comes from much life experience, and I don’t expect anyone else to “get it” quite like we do. 

That, IMO, is the way it should be.

Back to the topic at hand:  A politician or aspiring politician heavily espousing their religious views in an attempt to get elected is a major red flag for me.  It’s kind of like the plumber with the ichthys on his van and business card.  If you’ve got to trade on some sort of public proclamation of your religious identity to earn business, that means you probably aren’t taking care of business properly in the first place.
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« Reply #162 on: March 01, 2016, 11:49:59 am »

TIME Responds to Confrontation With Secret Service at Trump Event
http://time.com/4241899/donald-trump-rally-time-photographer-chris-morris/

Unreal. I have not looked into this, just saw the chatter on it. I assumed it was some freelance journalist for Gawker or tabloid X trying to get "the shot" and ignoring protocol. But a White House credentialed journalist for TIME? That's a pretty respectable journalist that is unlikely to suddenly go rogue. I certainly wasn't expecting the level of violence displayed in the video.

The facts appear to be:

Black Lives Matter protesters were given a police escort out of the Trump event, photographer took a step forward to take a picture of the protesters. He was commanded to get back in his press pen (since when do we corral the press with secret service detail?), told the man who commanded at him to "F*** off" and was then slammed to the ground by his throat.

NEWS FLASH!!! You can be as rude as you want to law enforcement, you generally shouldn't be rude - but it is not a pass to harm you. Then again if a Secret Service Agent is consistently told by his charge that he should be more violent, it is probably just a matter of time before they start being more violent.

It went from a fairly standard looking encounter to mad dog choke hold in a split second. The journalist had a camera in his right hand, his left arm is visible. Neither makes any movement or shows any sign of aggression towards the agent. Did the agent believe the journalist was going to attack the Black Lives Matter protesters? Or will he admit he was just angry that someone dated question his authority to command the press.



Looking at the comments online, I fully expected to see the journalist running errantly and grabbing the agents throat first. Trump supporters are desperate to paint this in a positive light. Why not just say the Secret Service doesn't work for Trump and leave it at that?
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« Reply #163 on: March 01, 2016, 12:37:13 pm »

Kicking out black students as well, even ones not protesting:
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ALDOSTA, Ga. — About 30 black students who were standing silently at the top of the bleachers at Donald Trump’s rally here Monday night were escorted out by Secret Service agents who said the presidential candidate had requested their removal before he began speaking.

The sight of the students, who were visibly upset, being led outside by law enforcement officials created a stir at a university that was a whites-only campus until 1963.

“We didn’t plan to do anything,” said a tearful Tahjila Davis, a 19-year-old mass media major, who was among the Valdosta State University students who was removed. “They said, 'This is Trump’s property; it’s a private event.' But I paid my tuition to be here.”

http://www.kgw.com/news/politics/black-students-ejected-from-trump-rally-in-ga/62959854
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« Reply #164 on: March 01, 2016, 12:45:43 pm »

I am at a complete loss as to what is happening to the GOP. I have always identified as a Republican even though I do lean left on many social issues, I have always voted the party line. Well, I can't say always, I did vote against Pete Coors in Colorado years ago for good reason. Now I am at a complete cross roads and maybe that was the point of this election all together.

I look at the Democrat side and I see Clinton and Sanders, two people that I can't be more against. I do not trust Clinton as far as I could throw her and the only Bern I would feel would be in my pocket book.

I look at the Republican side and I am horrified. Cruz scares the living daylights out of me. IMO he is so far right he needs an aid to wipe his own arse because he can't reach it. Carson, if he is awake has good idea's but doesn't seem to be able to command the attention and that makes me think that on a larger scale he would not be respected by other world leaders. Of course in many ways that would resemble our current President.

Rubio is in my opinion the only halfway sane choice, though owned by his PACS.

Trump...This is where the train left the runway.

I do not understand how so many have been taken by this con artist. WHAT you say? Con artist, how dare you...

I identify as a Democrat ( yes Reagan did at a time as well but after YEARS of enlightenment he changed ) Trump has given millions to the Democratic party as recently as 7 years ago.

If I ever run for President I would run as a Republican because those people will elect anyone. Seems to be correct there.

How can one have so much support from the evangelical masses just because he says he is a Christian? One minute he is bashing a woman's looks, her monthly cycle and then the next is saying I am a Christian. Calling someone a loser, a liar, a low ratings radio program hack, but I am a Christian and therefor it's ok that I say these things. Bashing the media for the coverage he receives but yet he receives the most because they all know at some point during the day he will do something so off the wall that the rating will sky rocket.

I have said from the start that one of two things will happen. Either he will be the GOP nominee and will be a wolf in sheep's clothing going straight down the Democrat side if he is elected, or... He moves to the Independent card and splits the GOP vote causing the Democrats to win the election.

Either way this election goes, Democrats or Republican, this country is in big trouble. The hate and the divide in this country is going to get much larger and there is no one on either side that can stop that and bring this country together.
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