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So if a Republican ever makes it into office and does the same thing will you just post "USA USA USA"?

Our drones can kick any country's honor student's asses!

How many times have we killed the second-in-command? It seems to be a bad job.

I think if I was third-in-charge, I would resist getting a promotion.

We should have just done one of those good old-fashioned CIA coups on Saddam Hussein and Bush would have looked brilliant.  It’s not like he didn’t have any contacts in the agency.  :P

Seriously! 

Al Queda's Second In Command Vaporized

I am curious as to why the president didn't have a press conference to celebrate this yesterday?

It's quite an accomplishment (a big fu(king deal, as Joe Biden would say) We got Al Quada's second in command in a drone strike ordered by the president yesterday!
Several missiles were fired at a suspected hideout, near the Afghanistan border in Pakistan, early Monday morning, killing al-Libi and an estimated 4 to 15 bystanders.

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Of course the Pakistani people are getting all pissy about this, and their government is upset
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Man! This beats the old days when we had to capture these bozos and pour water down their noses to get them to tell us where their buddies are.  Then we had to feed them, clothe them, give them prayer rugs and DirectTV. They stayed in GITMO for a while then when we were done with them they would get released.  What a pain in the donkey.

Now it's just a game of Whack-a-Mole.  Venture out of your cave to get a burger and BOOM! you and everyone around you gets dead.  We fly right into a sovereign country without permission using a CIA drone and off these dirt-bags.  

You know why we aren't using military aircraft or drones?  Because that would require congressional approval under the War Powers Act.  By using the CIA, President Obama can decide who to kill in the morning and get results by the afternoon.  So far this has resulted in 1,277 confirmed terrorist kills in the last three years.  Here's a cool map: Obama's Kills (https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=111611283754323549630.00047e8cdfc55d220dee7&ll=33.100745,70.444336&spn=4.41699,7.03125&t=p&z=7&source=embed)


http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/06/05/u-s-official-al-qaedas-no-2-killed-in-drone-strike/

Now there's real no data on the "collateral damage," but hey, if you're hanging out with a terrorist you probably deserve to die.  Am I right?  

Can you translate that to English?

The attack is likely to fuel an increasingly fierce debate about the legality and morality of the drones, which have become one of the chief U.S. weapons against al Qaeda but which opponents say stretch the definition of the legitimate use of lethal force.

"The United States talks human rights and freedoms for all, but the method they used to kill him is savage," Abu Bakr al-Qayed, brother of al-Libi, told Reuters on Wednesday in a telephone interview.

"The way the Americans killed him is heinous and inhumane," he said, speaking from the town of Wadi Otba, south of the Libyan capital. "We are in the 21st century and they claim to be civilized and this is how they take out people."

"Regardless of my brother's ideology, or beliefs, he was a human being and at the end of the day deserves humane treatment," he said.

If you look at drone strikes, Obama looks tough in the war on terror.

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I have no problem with this approach to the WOT.

Perhaps you might let Romney in on that. He might raise Obama's foreign policy grade from an F to a D. I think that was one of the most legitimately clueless things he's said the entire campaign. The gaffes merely reflect either straight misspeaking or a certain cluelessness about how to communicate with the not-wealthy, not anything particularly substantive policy-wise like his talk about Obama's foreign policy.

Perhaps you might let Romney in on that. He might raise Obama's foreign policy grade from an F to a D. I think that was one of the most legitimately clueless things he's said the entire campaign. The gaffes merely reflect either straight misspeaking or a certain cluelessness about how to communicate with the not-wealthy, not anything particularly substantive policy-wise like his talk about Obama's foreign policy.

It's just funny that the Left would get so upset at his predecessors for capturing terrorists, interrogating them, and holding them with out due process of law, but has no problem with lobbing hellfire missiles at them along with any innocents that happen to be in their vicinity at the time.

Yet Guiora – no dove on such matters – confessed he was "deeply concerned" about President Barack Obama's own "kill list" of terrorists and the way they are eliminated by missiles fired from robot drones around the world. He believes US policy has not tightly defined how people get on the list, leaving it open to legal and moral problems when the order to kill leaves Obama's desk. "He is making a decision largely devoid of external review," Guiroa told the Observer, saying the US's apparent methodology for deciding who is a terrorist is "loosey goosey"...

Obama has presided over a massive expansion of secret surveillance of American citizens by the National Security Agency. He has launched a ferocious and unprecedented crackdown on whistleblowers. He has made more government documents classified than any previous president. He has broken his promise to close down the controversial Guantánamo Bay prison and pressed on with prosecutions via secretive military tribunals, rather than civilian courts. He has preserved CIA renditions. He has tried to grab broad new powers on what defines a terrorist or a terrorist supporter and what can be done with them, often without recourse to legal process.

The sheer scope and breadth of Obama's national security policy has stunned even fervent Bush supporters and members of the Washington DC establishment. In last week's New York Times article that detailed the "kill list", Bush's last CIA director, Michael Hayden, said Obama should open the process to more public scrutiny. "Democracies do not make war on the basis of legal memos locked in a [Department of Justice] safe," he told the newspaper.

Even more pertinently, Aaron David Miller, a long-term Middle East policy adviser to both Republican and Democratic administrations, delivered a damning verdict in a recent issue of Foreign Policy magazine. He wrote bluntly: "Barack Obama has become George W Bush on steroids."