Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

[Gaspar]

No, they just demanded that the President not mess with the 2nd Amendment...wait, what?

So far, so good!

[patric]

If the OWS crowd wants an unfortunate accident, this is how it achieve it.  Now that this has proven effective in escalating tensions, we will see more of it. 

Calls for communism and flag burning? Very inconsistent with the goals of the movement as we understand them.
If you wanted to discredit the movement, that might be how to achieve it.

I read where the OWS plan was to open a shuttered building next to city hall to use as a HQ and homeless shelter, but instead masked individuals trashed it.  Somethings not quite right.

[Conan71]

Calls for communism and flag burning? Very inconsistent with the goals of the movement as we understand them.
If you wanted to discredit the movement, that might be how to achieve it.

I read where the OWS plan was to open a shuttered building next to city hall to use as a HQ and homeless shelter, but instead masked individuals trashed it.  Somethings not quite right.

You don't like the methods being used by protestors now so you are making a cloaked accusation that these are plants who are burning flags and waving communist banners?

Did you not happen to notice the socialist and communist symbols which have been used virtually since day 1 with these people?  This is who they are.

[Gaspar]

Calls for communism and flag burning? Very inconsistent with the goals of the movement as we understand them.
If you wanted to discredit the movement, that might be how to achieve it.

I read where the OWS plan was to open a shuttered building next to city hall to use as a HQ and homeless shelter, but instead masked individuals trashed it.  Somethings not quite right.

Do you think perhaps a group of neo-communist insurgents have infiltrated some of these OWS camps?

You're right, it does sound fishy.  Perhaps the vast right wing conspiracy has recruited a top secret base of agitators tasked with discrediting this unquestionably peaceful movement.

I bet the masked "protesters" were actually undercover police or even Tea Partiers devoted to developing an atmosphere of anarchy.

You are defiantly on to something.  Keep up the good work.

[nathanm]

making a cloaked accusation that these are plants

There is film evidence of infiltration of OWS groups by police, and have been many assertions, dating back to nearly the beginning, of said false flaggers attempting to persuade (part of) the group to do stupid smile.

Yeah, that's the kind of country we live in now, where government agents infiltrate groups engaged in nonviolent demonstration. Glad you could join us.

There's also a group of nutjob 'black bloc' malcontents who go around to any remotely 'left-wing' demonstration and pull their violent anarchy bullshit. Sorry if you think it sounds ridiculous, but it's documented.

Other, only tangentially related disturbing things (it's like living in a sci-fi novel sometimes):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMl2lDLXUkY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpHstaUiCSI[/youtube]

Even more disturbing is Germany trying to claim sovereignty over Greece this weekend and Greece's response stating they may love right off combined with the rumors of an imminent Greek departure from the Euro. The hedge funds are going to be mighty pissed; they were counting on Germany and other Eurozone members to bail them out.

[Gaspar]

There is film evidence of infiltration of OWS groups by police, and have been many assertions, dating back to nearly the beginning, of said false flaggers attempting to persuade (part of) the group to do stupid smile.

Yeah, that's the kind of country we live in now, where government agents infiltrate groups engaged in nonviolent demonstration. Glad you could join us.

There's also a group of nutjob 'black bloc' malcontents who go around to any remotely 'left-wing' demonstration and pull their violent anarchy bullshit. Sorry if you think it sounds ridiculous, but it's documented.

Other, only tangentially related disturbing things (it's like living in a sci-fi novel sometimes):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMl2lDLXUkY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpHstaUiCSI[/youtube]

Even more disturbing is Germany trying to claim sovereignty over Greece this weekend and Greece's response stating they may love right off combined with the rumors of an imminent Greek departure from the Euro. The hedge funds are going to be mighty pissed; they were counting on Germany and other Eurozone members to bail them out.

That is really disturbing.  It's unfortunate when a group of peaceful dissenters is overrun by those bent on evil.

We should really start to keep an eye on our local group then, because the organizer himself states that he is a member of several of these Socialist and Neo-communist organizations, as well as a "fan" of communist literature and politics, according to his Facebook page.  

Of course his Facebook page could have been hacked by Tea Party operatives working from silent black helicopters hovering just above Tulsa.

Note: I hadden't checked his page in a while and was just delighted after posting this, to note that he has changed his political affiliation from "Democratic Socialist" to "Communist Party USA".

Those damn Tea Party hackers!

[patric]

There is film evidence of infiltration of OWS groups by police, and have been many assertions, dating back to nearly the beginning, of said false flaggers attempting to persuade (part of) the group to do stupid smile.

Yeah, that's the kind of country we live in now, where government agents infiltrate groups engaged in nonviolent demonstration. Glad you could join us.

There's also a group of nutjob 'black bloc' malcontents who go around to any remotely 'left-wing' demonstration and pull their violent anarchy bullshit. Sorry if you think it sounds ridiculous, but it's documented.

Oakland police were among the agencies where masked, undercover officers were caught throwing rocks through windows last November, and one undercover Tennessee officer went on record outing his department for brutality when his conscience got to him.

[AquaMan]

Its like deja-vu all over again! Donald Segretti anyone?

Seriously, these aren't new tactics. We saw them under Nixon/Agnew and Hoover when young people were demonstrating. I remember the naivete of people at that time who found it impossible to believe that government or political entities would infiltrate and pollute such movements. I was one of them.

Its real, its pervasive and its accepted. Sometimes people in the movements are mislead and gravitate towards the very things that will destroy their movement. Gingrich shows up for a speaking engagement where Romney supporters have packed the hall with malcontents and Romney supporters. What makes you think they wouldn't do the same thing to wreak havoc with punk donkey kids?

[Gaspar]

Oakland police were among the agencies where masked, undercover officers were caught throwing rocks through windows last November, and one undercover Tennessee officer went on record outing his department for brutality when his conscience got to him.

The FBI needs to get involved. 

We need to determine the whereabouts of Sarah Palin over the weekend, and determine if she carries a Bic lighter.

Oh, wait, they arrested the group of protesters that broke into city hall.  Probably just their cop buddies.  I'm sure they all had a good laugh on the way back to the station.

Give me a break. 

[Gaspar]

Its like deja-vu all over again! Donald Segretti anyone?

 What makes you think they wouldn't do the same thing to wreak havoc with punk donkey kids?

Because they are punk donkey kids.  They are very capable of discrediting themselves without clandestine investment. 

[AquaMan]

Because they are punk donkey kids.  They are very capable of discrediting themselves without clandestine investment. 

Frankly, I think a lot of these "dirty tricks" guys like Segretti, did this stuff for fun and still do. Because they can. The others truly fear that something may come of these demonstrations and feel its better to be safe than sorry. Guys like the Watergate bungler/burglars.

....hey mom, I'm going to be on tv tonite!...Yeah! Fox!...

[Conan71]

So let me get this straight, we can discount the public urination, defecation, buggery, vandalism, drug use, drunkeness, carrying communist signs, rock throwing, and flag burning as either rare malcontents or police plants.  But there's absolutely ZERO possibility that Tea Party rallies were ever infiltrated by people attempting to discredit that movement.  Riiiiiiight!

That's a whole lot of plants around the country just to set this group up.

[nathanm]

So let me get this straight

You might want to try again, because that was as crooked as a fun house.

[Townsend]

Wasn't this same thing happening with the guy flying into the IRS building and association with the Tea Party?

There were others but I'm not able to think of them at the moment.

[Gaspar]

I like where this is going. 

Should be interesting to see how the thousands and thousands of arrests, millions and millions in damages, and all the other bizarre activity gets explained away as conspiracy.

I mean, these poor OWS folks had no idea what the signs they were carrying meant, or even the background on the symbology they adopted.  What a grand and fantastical conspiracy.  The 99% effortlessly fooled by the 1% to do their bidding.

Welcome to the matrix.