Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

[Townsend]

I thought Taco Mayo was the official Mexican food spokesman?

According to friends who moved away it's Bueno.  Nothing compares to Bueno and QT when you leave our area.

Taco Mayo is not very good IMO.

The pages and pages on this subject (OWS) from a bunch of us, about which we know very little, is impressive.

[we vs us]

The pages and pages on this subject (OWS) from a bunch of us, about which we know very little, is impressive.

It took me about 50 pages to realize that it wasn't just Guido's personalized youtube channel.

[dbacks fan]

1.  Bring back Glass Steagall

I brought this up 76 pages back:

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=18181.msg214232#msg214232

[Townsend]

I brought this up 76 pages back:

Good follow up.

[we vs us]

I brought this up 76 pages back:

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=18181.msg214232#msg214232

See there?  Something you and the Occupy folks agree on!  Will wonders never cease!

[dbacks fan]

According to friends who moved away it's Bueno.  Nothing compares to Bueno and QT when you leave our area.

Taco Mayo is not very good IMO.

The pages and pages on this subject (OWS) from a bunch of us, about which we know very little, is impressive.

Taco Mayo, how do they stay in business? Are they still the cheapest in town? I went there a few times several years ago when money was tight for me, but I never thought they would still be there now.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I just love it!!  This whole thread, the OWS people, guido and gaspar's reactions...even the tea baggers bring something to the table.  It has been very entertaining, and has caused a whole lot of thought by the people here (even if some of it IS wrongheaded, guido....) which is just great!!

[heironymouspasparagus]

Taco Mayo, how do they stay in business? Are they still the cheapest in town? I went there a few times several years ago when money was tight for me, but I never thought they would still be there now.

Tells you there are a lot of poor people in town.  That's all they can afford.

[dbacks fan]

See there?  Something you and the Occupy folks agree on!  Will wonders never cease!

Yes there are some things I agree with, just not necessarily the method. And I think that alot of their occupy protests got over run with mob mentality people that had no stake in the game.

And as for Glass Stegall, I've been for changing that for the last three or four years. Did H&R Block really need to get into the mortgage business? Do we really need people trading currencies and stocks in their pj's?  

[Townsend]

Taco Mayo, how do they stay in business? Are they still the cheapest in town? I went there a few times several years ago when money was tight for me, but I never thought they would still be there now.

Been there once.  It tasted like a salt lick...even the root beer.

[dbacks fan]

This is who I think of when I see all the commercials for being a trader at home. His business model was so good, he hung himself while in jail on fraud charges.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mubCkCAEiDQ[/youtube]


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-20114700-10391698.html

[Gaspar]

I'm not sure how out of the mainstream OWS really is.  Their methods may be controversial (just as the Tea Party's were), but there're some imminently reasonable demands:

1.  Bring back Glass Steagall
2.  Audit the bailed-out banks
3.  Overturn Citizens United
4.  Regulate High Frequency Trading
5.  End 'revolving door' politics
6.  Enforce the Volker Rule

etc.

I've cherry-picked a bit, but not radically.  The other things on the list are all of a piece.  Even here on this forum, many of us have agreed in separate conversations that these are important reforms.  Interestingly, there's not a bit of redistribution among them.

Obviously in the different Occupations there're going to be city-specific and group-specific demands.  So yeah, if you want to selectively edit your viewing and reportage to include only the radical commies, you're going to be able to do that.  Most of the rightie media has chosen to support that frame as well (quite obviously).  But choosing to use just those information channels, however, to evaluate a group that 1) doesn't use those channels and 2) is opposed to those channels almost guarantees that you'll get an incomplete view.  And I think you're getting an incomplete view. 

You have cherry picked.  You've plucked out the standard liberal jewels.  This is what you stand for, not what OWS stands for.  This is simply a list put together by a website designer from San Francisco.  I even agree with #2, in fact I think it should a given that ANY company willing to accept a government bailout or even payment in the form of stimulus cash should first submit to a full audit!!!!!  That would have saved us a pantload!

I concede that there is quite a lot that can be plucked out of the OWS noise, however the "reasonable demands" above do not represent the majority of the music.  Besides that, we are not a country of "demands."  Nicole's site is very good to frame the conversation with the idea that "we do not make demands" and offer these items as "suggestions."  I like that because it opens up dialogue and gives policy makers and candidates the ability to adopt these positions without being seen as complying with demands.  

So We vs us, for this OWS thing to become an actual political movement, a candidate would need to emerge from some party that will satisfy the desire of the mob.  The six items above, may seem reasonable, but the 100 other demands will serve to divorce that candidate from being viable.

[guido911]

It took me about 50 pages to realize that it wasn't just Guido's personalized youtube channel.

Oh I'm so sorry that I made fun of your little whiner conventions. The whole thing got a bit distasteful for me when rapes, deaths, drug overdoses, theft, vandalism, and whatever other crimes committed by, lemme guess, just the fringe, started occurring on a regular basis. Remember, this is a compare and contrast thread. How many rapes, deaths, and everything else occurred at tea parties?  

And it's a shame there are 50 pages worth of material out there of this freak show and the losers who are attending it. What is truly sad is that you really think the opinions of some twenty something with little to no job history, probably pays nickels on every dollar even you pay in taxes, and never started a business should be taken seriously when it comes to job creation or how businesses are operated? These are your icons?

[we vs us]

Oh I'm so sorry that I made fun of your little whiner conventions. The whole thing got a bit distasteful for me when rapes, deaths, drug overdoses, theft, vandalism, and whatever other crimes committed by, lemme guess, just the fringe, started occurring on a regular basis. Remember, this is a compare and contrast thread. How many rapes, deaths, and everything else occurred at tea parties?  

And it's a shame there are 50 pages worth of material out there of this freak show and the losers who are attending it. What is truly sad is that you really think the opinions of some twenty something with little to no job history, probably pays nickels on every dollar even you pay in taxes, and never started a business should be taken seriously when it comes to job creation or how businesses are operated? These are your icons?

 . . . and it took me another 25 to get past some of your scary rants about losers and hippies.

[patric]

How many rapes, deaths, and everything else occurred at tea parties?  

Don't they save that for their cross-lighting ceremonies?